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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor-Alex View Post
    I dont see where the debate is. Planes hit buildings, they fell down. What is there to debate?
    the debate is all the conspiracy's people believe in, although I don't.

    with the towers, i think the video shows it all really, nothing more to it.
    I know people are saying "could more lives be saved", I don't think so, if anything a lot more could of been lost, because if the people on united 93 didn't fight back then I could guarantee that the death toll would be a lot higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post

    i say watch that video







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    Quote Originally Posted by Publicised View Post
    in response to this; i totally agree with maddox.
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    The website ...


    His point number 2:

    If they killed the makers of Loose Change, it would create them more problems. It would cause a lot of problems - "someone said america did it, and he was murdered the next day". Doesnt look good does it?

    The guy who owns that site looks like some sad 2 year old kid, who thinks he is always right.
    All the idiot talked about was $20 notes? WOW!!! >.>

    He didn't answer any of the things or debunk anything on the pentagon?
    That idiot knows he is wrong or doesn't have any answers.

    Sad moron :]

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    the windsor building in madrid burned for 22 hours yet did not collapse

    yet the trade centres burned for 2 hours and collapsed


    sceince cant prove any of it!!!!!!!!!!!







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    Quote Originally Posted by ksoz View Post
    The website ...


    His point number 2:

    If they killed the makers of Loose Change, it would create them more problems. It would cause a lot of problems - "someone said america did it, and he was murdered the next day". Doesnt look good does it?

    The guy who owns that site looks like some sad 2 year old kid, who thinks he is always right.
    All the idiot talked about was $20 notes? WOW!!! >.>

    He didn't answer any of the things or debunk anything on the pentagon?
    That idiot knows he is wrong or doesn't have any answers.

    Sad moron :]
    You are then, I take it, a conspiracy theorist..

    Can anyone explain why the US government would want to do this?
    Can someone tell me how it's possible to get an entire government, the various special forces of the US, the emergency services and many others to stay quiet about something like this?
    Can I get an answer as to how if it really was the US government, why there were no messages from the Taliban and other suspects claiming innocence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by micky.blue.eyes View Post
    I like this topic and I believe there is some kind of conspiracy, I don't know who did it and I don't think I want to know, but the people who did it are very clever. Maybe there were some insiders in the twin towers who could plant explosives, but there were explosives (as shown on most videos).

    I agree with the people who said that every time something dramatic happens people will look for things to base a consperacy theory on, but there are just too many things here which aren't right.



    Because it didn't happen the way it's told.


    (Added some stuff in green. )


    Other points:
    - A third tower collapsed but it wasn't struck by a plane or even burning.
    - If the government has nothing to do with it (or other powerfull people), why won't the government release videos from security cameras they took from cameras aimed at the pentagon and other videos?
    - The police in helicopters were ordered not to save people from the building and to get away from the building. (I think it was the police, the video will tell you this)
    - The twin towers fell after about 10 minutes, other buildings burned for a much longer time and never fell down.
    - The twin towers were build to survive these fires.

    I can't be bothered to type more points, just watch the video.
    on the security video released (only a few frames) it shows an explosion at the pentagon but no plane


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    Can anyone explain why the US government would want to do this? to make a time of terror for everyone giving

    trust to the goverments to do something about it, to cause widespread panic leaving all blame on the people the us governent want dead,

    Can someone tell me how it's possible to get an entire government, the various special forces of the US, the

    emergency services and many others to stay quiet about something like this?
    they simply didnt tell them

    Can I get an answer as to how if it really was the US government, why there were no messages from the Taliban and other suspects claiming innocence?

    the taliban after something like this happened would claim it was them, to make thereselves look like the most powerful terrorist forces
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    Exactly. I agree with all them points, especially the last one. It would have done more damage to the US Government if the Taliban hadn't claimed they'd done it, because then people really would be pointing the finger at the US.

    It's basically impossible that the US could have done it and kept it secret. If the US had done it, it would have meant hundreds or thousands of people involved - and no way would all of them have kept quiet.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    You are then, I take it, a conspiracy theorist..

    Can anyone explain why the US government would want to do this?
    Can someone tell me how it's possible to get an entire government, the various special forces of the US, the emergency services and many others to stay quiet about something like this?
    Can I get an answer as to how if it really was the US government, why there were no messages from the Taliban and other suspects claiming innocence?
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    they could easily keep it under wraps if only the top people knew
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksoz View Post
    The website ...


    His point number 2:

    If they killed the makers of Loose Change, it would create them more problems. It would cause a lot of problems - "someone said america did it, and he was murdered the next day". Doesnt look good does it?

    The guy who owns that site looks like some sad 2 year old kid, who thinks he is always right.
    All the idiot talked about was $20 notes? WOW!!! >.>

    He didn't answer any of the things or debunk anything on the pentagon?
    That idiot knows he is wrong or doesn't have any answers.

    Sad moron :]
    maddox is never wrong.
    just because parrells exist it doesn't mean that they automatically lead to the governments involvement with 9/11. people are just clutching at loose strings to try & get answers. but i think it needs to stop; fair enough people did die, but isn't it better to let the dead rest than keep going over 'theories' that in the end prove nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Publicised View Post
    maddox is never wrong.
    just because parrells exist it doesn't mean that they automatically lead to the governments involvement with 9/11. people are just clutching at loose strings to try & get answers. but i think it needs to stop; fair enough people did die, but isn't it better to let the dead rest than keep going over 'theories' that in the end prove nothing.
    Luckily, not everyone thinks like you.

    Well, lets go around murdering people, and say "STHU M8. LET THEM REST IN PEACE. THEY PROBS DIED OF NATURAL CAUSES. STHU WIV UR THEORIES THAT THEY WERE MURDERED".

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    You are then, I take it, a conspiracy theorist..

    Can anyone explain why the US government would want to do this?

    Gold under the twin towers.
    They could blame it on Muslims and therefore attack Afganistan. Then slowly move to Iraq (who did nothing what so ever to them) and blow them up and get oil. Bush's dad always wanted to blow up Iraq, so maybe Bush was finishing off his dad's job? Iraq was under control and probably a better place with Saddam (but I would never know as I don't live there). Atleast people didn't walk out of their houses, thinking they might not return.


    Can someone tell me how it's possible to get an entire government, the various special forces of the US, the emergency services and many others to stay quiet about something like this?

    Who says the emergency services knew? They were probably acting as they would to anormal threat. Only the top ranking officials of the goverment knew.

    Can I get an answer as to how if it really was the US government, why there were no messages from the Taliban and other suspects claiming innocence?

    They did claim innocence. Bin Laden released a tape straight after 9/11 claiming it wasnt him.
    ^^^ My reply in red.
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