Iraqi Flag removed and replaced with a interim Flag..

[-:Undertaker:-]

I would of thought freedom was more important :rolleyes:

No because considering the options between family/you dying because of terrorists and crime and security, I would take security.

[---MAD---]

Yeah I know the terrosist are flooding in from different countrys, I clearly said there were no terrorists under Saddam because of his good security.

No, because under Saddam he let them stay in the country and work from there. They would be protected by him that way. Its more of an ally/enemy thing.

I would of thought freedom was more important :rolleyes:

Yes I agree.

No because considering the options between family/you dying because of terrorists and crime and security, I would take security.

So you would rather be in prison for the rest of your life than die? I would much rather die.

[-:Undertaker:-]

No, because under Saddam he let them stay in the country and work from there. They would be protected by him that way. Its more of an ally/enemy thing.

Yes I agree.

So you would rather be in prison for the rest of your life than die? I would much rather die.

There were no terrorists under Saddam, George W Bush and Tony Blair may claim he was harbouring them but it was proven Saddam had no links with terrorists. Only the people who wanted to try and destabilise the country were punished. I would call Iraq more of a prison now.

[Frodo13.]

There were no terrorists under Saddam, George W Bush and Tony Blair may claim he was harbouring them but it was proven Saddam had no links with terrorists. Only the people who wanted to try and destabilise the country were punished. I would call Iraq more of a prison now.

Yes, but as we have already established, you havn't been there - MAD has family who has.

[Dan2nd]

No because considering the options between family/you dying because of terrorists and crime and security, I would take security.

correct me if I'm wrong...but didn't Saddam gas out a whole village or something which is alot worse in my opinion as it's something you wouldn't expect from your countries leader? I mean at least people know which areas are at risk from attacks now and can prepare for it instead of worrying Saddam will have a spare canister of gas lying around?

[-:Undertaker:-]

Yes, but as we have already established, you havn't been there - MAD has family who has.

I could say to you that you couldn't call Hitler/Nazi's evil because you weren't there.

correct me if I'm wrong...but didn't Saddam gas out a whole village or something which is alot worse in my opinion as it's something you wouldn't expect from your countries leader? I mean at least people know which areas are at risk from attacks now and can prepare for it instead of worrying Saddam will have a spare canister of gas lying around?

That was done because of the Kudish uprising trying to destabilise the country.

[Frodo13.]

I could say to you that you couldn't call Hitler/Nazi's evil because you weren't there.

Yes, but whats a more reliable source - you who only see's what is portrayed in the media, or MAD, who was in Iraq during the Saddam era and now has family in Iraq, and see all aspects of Iraqi life?

^^ And to that - they tryed to get Saddam out because of his discrimination. It does not matter where you live, that being the Middle East, Europe, Affrica or America...percecuting someone for their political beliefs is wrong. Saddam was a power hungary, insecure leader - that being the only reason why he killed many just to keep his political position.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Yes, but whats a more reliable source - you who only see's what is portrayed in the media, or MAD, who was in Iraq during the Saddam era and now has family in Iraq, and see all aspects of Iraqi life?

^^ And to that - they tryed to get Saddam out because of his discrimination. It does not matter where you live, that being the Middle East, Europe, Affrica or America...percecuting someone for their political beliefs is wrong. Saddam was a power hungary, insecure leader - that being the only reason why he killed many just to keep his political position.

They were trying to bring the country down, it's a whole lot differant from waving flags around chanting. I could say same about Blair and Brown, one killed many people and destroyed a country that was perfectly fine, and on the subject of power hungary people - Gordon Brown who decided not to call an election.

Was Iraq better off with Saddam Hussein in power - yes.

[Frodo13.]

They were trying to bring the country down, it's a whole lot differant from waving flags around chanting. I could say same about Blair and Brown, one killed many people and destroyed a country that was perfectly fine, and on the subject of power hungary people - Gordon Brown who decided not to call an election.

Was Iraq better off with Saddam Hussein in power - yes.

Was Iraq better off with Saddam? - no

And would you called a GE if you were low in opinion polls? Probably not :rolleyes: Just like Major what did.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Was Iraq better off with Saddam? - no

And would you called a GE if you were low in opinion polls? Probably not :rolleyes: Just like Major what did.

Oh right, you'd, rather Iraq run by Shiites with no water, less freedom and no food/electric.

I have no opinion on John Major