Moderation Changes Cont.

[GommeInc]

Please PM me links to any threads/posts where smods/mods/admins bent the rules to suit their needs and I will personally take care of it .

You'll have to direct your attention to the people who have received such warnings. Also, don't take on the task, let someone else do it

[today]

Who else is to do so if an admin breaks the rules? Only Sierk or MAD can deal with it

[Slowpoke]

Who else is to do so if an admin breaks the rules? Only Sierk or MAD can deal with it

"I'll only reply in here if I need to"

As for the changes, I agree with it all except for the fact that you don't get a PM with warnings although MAD said that will probably be changed?

[---MAD---]

You'll have to direct your attention to the people who have received such warnings. Also, don't take on the task, let someone else do it

You directed it at my quote and targetted me when saying it so I offered my services. If you want another admin to do it PM him instead .

[sierk]

So you hear a few people want the infraction system changed you do it? you see a few wanting the filter relaxed you do it? Why do you not do a big forum poll so we can give out input in a vote and see what the majority want? I swear you make up half the stuff you come out with.
Oh you gave 5 warnings today so that adds up to 2 minutes of your life which could have been saved :s if they dont like wasting those 2 minutes then surely they dont deserve the job? If you listened more then you would still have a number of good mods who are no longer here due to being fired for taking action at being ignored.

I thought the users here were the priority and not you. How about ask in a poll if we want informing of warnings or not? i see no evidence that most the members dont like the current system? please provide public links please so i can see this for myself and then agree with you.

I agree the place needs to be stricter but like the rep system you decide whats what and just plough ahead without even considering the members who are what keeps hxf running.

I think ---MAD--- 's point is that it doesn't matter what we decide, there will always be people complaining. And of course it is important to make the job of moderating as easy as possible.
From what I can tell ---MAD--- is always very careful with considering the opinion of the forum members in all his decisions. But there are a lot of decisions that should only be taken by management, such as the one where we changed the rep power. This was a very successful decision as now rep is considered less important around the forum, solving a lot of problems. But if we had asked the opinion of our members they would never have agreed with a reduction in rep power. Decisions like this, including how we moderate, should only be taken by management. As long members don't realize this, there will always be discussions like this.

[benjamin]

Can I ask - if you say that reputation and moderation will only be changed by management, then why the hell are you letting the council put forward reputation plans as to how it could be changed - when nothing will ever happen?

I think ---MAD--- 's point is that it doesn't matter what we decide, there will always be people complaining. And of course it is important to make the job of moderating as easy as possible.
From what I can tell ---MAD--- is always very careful with considering the opinion of the forum members in all his decisions. But there are a lot of decisions that should only be taken by management, such as the one where we changed the rep power. This was a very successful decision as now rep is considered less important around the forum, solving a lot of problems. But if we had asked the opinion of our members they would never have agreed with a reduction in rep power. Decisions like this, including how we moderate, should only be taken by management. As long members don't realize this, there will always be discussions like this.

[GommeInc]

Can I ask - if you say that reputation and moderation will only be changed by management, then why the hell are you letting the council put forward reputation plans as to how it could be changed - when nothing will ever happen?

I was thinking that too :S The problem with Habbox in general is that you get different answers from different people about anything... The council is dealing with the rep, the management dealt with it last and it failed miserably, so we're picking up the pieces

[---MAD---]

Can I ask - if you say that reputation and moderation will only be changed by management, then why the hell are you letting the council put forward reputation plans as to how it could be changed - when nothing will ever happen?

The council is allowed to discuss any topics just as members are allowed to give us feedback on changes we make. We are not restricting the council (or members) from what they are allowed to feedback on as long as its appropriate, done in the right place and the right way. We look at the feedback and make changes were we feel necessary.

[sierk1]

As I have said before the idea behind the council was not so they could help decide how we run the forum, but to come up with new and creative ideas for Habbox.

Can I ask - if you say that reputation and moderation will only be changed by management, then why the hell are you letting the council put forward reputation plans as to how it could be changed - when nothing will ever happen?

[The Professor]

As I have said before the idea behind the council was not so they could help decide how we run the forum, but to come up with new and creative ideas for Habbox.

If that is the case I feel the council is not being used to its fullest potential. You have an incredibly useful tool in both making decisions and keeping people happy, but you choose to ignore it? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.