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    No date is set yet, but it must happened before the first couple of days of June/ Brown has 8 months left in office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexxxxx View Post
    It's not about that though. It's not about left or right. The Sun, NOTW have supposedly supported Labour and the Times/S Times follows suit. ITV and Sky are both news international owned. All these large british institutions are under control of people with more than one interest. When there is a near monopoly or oligopoly in the news sense, real choice is limited.

    The Barclay brothers are another set of people with high influence with fingers in many pies. DMGT own or have stakes in large amounts of media.

    The media in the hands of so few in not in the interests of democracy as the electorate need to be informed from different points of view.
    They are informed from different points of view, i've said before their are left wing papers out there but they do not sell well, and those who did endorse the Labour Party during their time in office did so as an act of populism. The government has no right to control who does and who doesn't buy up the newspapers/media - thats business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    They are informed from different points of view, i've said before their are left wing papers out there but they do not sell well, and those who did endorse the Labour Party during their time in office did so as an act of populism. The government has no right to control who does and who doesn't buy up the newspapers/media - thats business.
    No, the government does have a right - to protect something needed in a functioning democracy, an informed electorate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexxxxx View Post
    No, the government does have a right - to protect something needed in a functioning democracy, an informed electorate.
    The government does not have a right to interfere in free press, the press does not sell right-wing slanted stories because it wants a Conservative Empire in the United Kingdom, it sells right-wing papers because they sell and make money. I have said before, the alternatives are there but the people make their choice whether to buy them or not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    The government does not have a right to interfere in free press, the press does not sell right-wing slanted stories because it wants a Conservative Empire in the United Kingdom, it sells right-wing papers because they sell and make money. I have said before, the alternatives are there but the people make their choice whether to buy them or not.
    this isn't about left or right wing like i told you. it's about people not being able to make an informed choice. if the media owners decided to black out something to the british public because it would hurt their interests, it COULD happen. If Murdoch wants to control the government to benefit his interests, by biasing his wide range of newspapers/news channels, or to blackmail, he could. he has the power to deceive the public. if murdoch wanted to blackmail the government by teaming up with the barclay brothers, he could.

    therefore the government has a right to regulate the owners of media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexxxxx View Post
    this isn't about left or right wing like i told you. it's about people not being able to make an informed choice. if the media owners decided to black out something to the british public because it would hurt their interests, it COULD happen. If Murdoch wants to control the government to benefit his interests, by biasing his wide range of newspapers/news channels, or to blackmail, he could. he has the power to deceive the public. if murdoch wanted to blackmail the government by teaming up with the barclay brothers, he could.

    therefore the government has a right to regulate the owners of media.
    The papers are ran on own interests though and always have been, the Daily Mail, Telegraph and so on have always been run in right-wing interests because the readers are right wing and certain issues will bother them more than others, its the same with the left and the Guardian. We have ministers meeting Russian billionares on yachts, so I wouldn't worry that much about the media which is a free press that runs just fine.
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    The government shouldn't intervene if people are too stupid to make a decision of their own and follow whatever their newspapers tells them to. It is a democracy therefore anyone can vote who they want, it's ultimately their decision. As good ol' Gordon says, it's people who vote not newspapers.

    If the government decided to offer some real change and major differences from other political parties then maybe people would be interested enough to make an informed opinion on who they want in power rather than 'obeying their newspaper'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    The government shouldn't intervene if people are too stupid to make a decision of their own and follow whatever their newspapers tells them to.
    Especially if it's the Sun...

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    lib dem ftw

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    Quote Originally Posted by thyflux View Post
    lib dem ftw
    init altho i've always liked labour (mainly to wind undertaker up atm) lib dem is obvs the answer now, eee imagine that the third party getting in lolololol

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