Am I to blame for this? (Racism)

[-:Undertaker:-]

And just a little fact, Muslims aren't allowed to use condoms (that is what many Muslims have told me).

That is of no concern to us and this country, thats a personal and stupid choice that they take then which puts at risk both themselves and other people they are having sexual intercourse with. On Mint himself, I do think he goes a bit far sometimes and delves too far into race issues (although if he does not support multi-culturalism and immigration then thats entirely up to him).

On the other hand we have people such as yourself who seem to think that anyone who opposes mass and uncontrolled immigration (myself and UKIP) are racist and that anybody who dares question the holocaust (a very small minority) is automatically racist and should be punished for their views.

[Seatherny]

Where have I said I believe anyone who opposes mass and uncontrolled immigration is a racist? I have actually said I dislike people who come here just to live off benefits.

So you are ignorant too? Or are you saying that simply because of my lovely signature?

[Tash.]

That is of no concern to us and this country, thats a personal and stupid choice that they take then which puts at risk both themselves and other people they are having sexual intercourse with. On Mint himself, I do think he goes a bit far sometimes and delves too far into race issues (although if he does not support multi-culturalism and immigration then thats entirely up to him).

On the other hand we have people such as yourself who seem to think that anyone who opposes mass and uncontrolled immigration (myself and UKIP) are racist and that anybody who dares question the holocaust (a very small minority) is automatically racist and should be punished for their views.

Congratulations, you just succeeded in referring to the choices of many strict catholics as "stupid". Catholics also are not supposed to use contraception, and as a result often they have many children too, although the majority will be white and "British" so of course lets ignore that shall we?

[-:Undertaker:-]

Where have I said I believe anyone who opposes mass and uncontrolled immigration is a racist? I have actually said I dislike people who come here just to live off benefits.

So you are ignorant too? Or are you saying that simply because of my lovely signature?

Your own opinion fits the UKIP immigration policy then if that is the case.

Congratulations, you just succeeded in referring to the choices of many strict catholics as "stupid". Catholics also are not supposed to use contraception, and as a result often they have many children too, although the majority will be white and "British" so of course lets ignore that shall we?

They are stupid aswell, thats another reason why I don't hold much respect for the Pope as the AIDS epidemic is out of control across the world, and in Africa where they need his help the most he totally ignores the common sense behind contrapceptives.

Where do you get this idea from that I give a damn about skin colour?

[Tash.]

They are stupid aswell, thats another reason why I don't hold much respect for the Pope as the AIDS epidemic is out of control across the world, and in Africa where they need his help the most he totally ignores the common sense behind contrapceptives.

Where do you get this idea from that I give a damn about skin colour?

Actually the white comment was for the benefit of Mint, the British part was for you. You wrote that it is "of no concern to us or this country", that indicates you do not count them as part of this country. So i was merely giving you an example of people who have lived here for decades perhaps centuries which are also doing the same as these people.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Actually the white comment was for the benefit of Mint, the British part was for you. You wrote that it is "of no concern to us or this country", that indicates you do not count them as part of this country. So i was merely giving you an example of people who have lived here for decades perhaps centuries which are also doing the same as these people.

If they are not intergrating into this country then I don't count them as part of this country, same as with all the white, British people sitting on benefits who commit crimes and get away with it. I've made it known I support immigration before, I don't know how much I have to say this to get it across to people. I just don't agree with the way immigration is managed in its current form.

[Seatherny]

No, my immigration policy is much different to the racist UKIP.

Anyone please dont turn another thread into UKIP Discussions.

[-:Undertaker:-]

No, my immigration policy is much different to the racist UKIP.

Anyone please dont turn another thread into UKIP Discussions.

What is your immigration policy then and whats its differences compared to UKIP?

On the subject, the debate has turned wildly throughout and has still kept the same line, racism. There is not a problem with going from the BNP to UKIP - its a healthy debate.

[Seatherny]

Its never been about the BNP. Its been about Mint and his racist views. Are you saying as Mint is racist and you think its about BNP, BNP are raicists too?

If you want to discuss the UKIP, make a new thread. Stop changing this threads topic.

[Mint]

There is a big distinction between a Muslim woman wearing the scarf and a man with a balaclava. You may want to go to the opticians if you disagree.

Most Asians don't have a distinctive beard. Only a few do but you are just ignorant and see a few and go OMGZZZ THEY ALL WEAR IT!! RUNN!!1

Also alot of white people have beards OMGGGGZZZ ALL WHITE PEOPLE HAVE BEARDS COS I SAW A WHITE DUDE WITH ONE AT UNI!1ZZ!!1Z

You obviously have ZERO clue about this stuff, you love seeing 1 person of a different colour doing something and automatically think they are all the same because you are a RACIST. I saw 2 white chavs on the back of the bus today, both with hoodies, swearing at people out of the window for no reason, playing loud music, singing like idiots, speaking in gangsta language OMGZZ NOT ENGLISHZ!!!
Then there were 2 Asians at the front, who did nothing but be quiet and mind their own business.

If you think I am lying, ask Tash., I was on the phone to her then.

If you was shown an Asian woman wearing a scarf mask at quite a close range then you would obviously realise that it was an Asian wearing a scarf mask. However, good eyesight or not, it will always be a shock to suddenly see one of them. When you see someone, you automatically expect them just to be the typical man or woman, however when you turn around to see someone with what looks to be like a black mask with only their eyes exposed this can create something called shock. :rolleyes: You may be used to seeing them but many British people aren't (unless they live in an area that is full of them).

You hardly ever see English people with beards, if you do they are nearly always elderly.

Also, can you please stop telling us these stories about English people behaving badly on busses as you have already told us enough? Thanks.

Like Saurav said, I fail to see how you could mistake a woman in a hijab (or mask as you like to call it) and a person in a balaclava. Balaclavas for one thing are heavy garments made out of totally different material to a hijab and often a person wearing a balaclava will be wearing other items of clothing which would warn you as to the danger they pose to you.
On the whole argument about them supposedly having many children, I aren't sure why you're picking on these people? There are thousands of white people in the UK that have more than 2/3 children, so why are you not referring to them using words such as 'infested' and 'breeding'.

You're moaning because they live together, but I can't see you being very happy if they moved into your street, then you'd be moaning that they are 'taking over'. Let's face it, you're moaning because you're a racist xenophobe. And yes, if you are born here it does make you English. You won't have lived anywhere else, so you won't have a passport for anywhere but here? Of course if we use your example of a person giving birth whilst on holiday abroad, then no they aren't going to be greek because you aren't living there and you don't intend to. Nobody has 'genuine english blood' we are all descended from immigrants, I myself am a quarter irish. If you are born here and are brought up in this country you will pick up the language, the culture, the accent and all the things which make us English.

I'm sure I have already said this but in the dark (especially in winter when it goes dark at like 3pm) my daily life can sometimes be quite jumpy. If I walked around a corner and was confronted by a figure wearing all black (yes a lot wear black scarf masks and black rag-like dresses) it scares the hell out of me and I have embarrassed myself more than once after jumping back. You say that balaclavas are made from heavier materials/garments but in the dark you just can't tell the difference between the materials.

About why I don't say that English people infest areas is because it would be impossible for them to do so as they live here anyway. I know that is a poor explanation but I can't think of a better way to put it. Just imagine if England never had people immigrating here, obviously English people would live everywhere because they are the only ones here so it would be impossible not to. Yet when immigrants come over a lot just decide to live in an area full of other people of the same nationality. *Removed*

You might be right in saying if they live together I won't be happy and if one moved in on my street I wouldn't be happy. But at least if one did move in on my street I would get to know their culture, learn more about them and that could change my opinion on Asians as a whole. But they just don't, they take over areas and transform it into something similar to home. Asian clothing shops, Asian food stores, Cash and carries etc. This is a new thought, maybe it's as if they don't want to be English. By living together with their same Nationality, same smell of food, same stores etc it's as if they are living on English land but have built their home back on it, they obviously don't communicate with English people often so it really must feel like they are living back home.

You say you are a quarter Irish but are you sure one of your relatives wasn't just born there...? :rolleyes: In my mind you would only be a quarter Irish if one of your relatives had a baby with a real Irish person.

I didnt see that bit.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-I-twins.html

OMG I BET SHE WAS ASIAN AND PAINTED HER SKIN TO BE WHITE!!! A white person can never "breed" so many children!!!1

And just a little fact, Muslims aren't allowed to use condoms (that is what many Muslims have told me).

Do your homework little boy.

Congratulations, you have found an English person with 13 babies, point? Is your point that you can be ignorant and say that all English people have so many babies? Well it has backfired. I'm going to use that piece of news to counter attack you (lulz). First of all, I go to a school in Manchester that is like 90% white/black then the other 10% are Asian. Near my school is a primary school. At the end of the day when school finishes, parents pick their children up from primary school then also pick their older children up from high school with it being so close. Every single Asian person in my school that gets picked up will always be seen getting into a crammed full car with an average of 4/5 children in. I also experience massive Asian families cramming cars while driving around Manchester daily, that's why they tend to have rather large, low cost cars.

In that news link you nicely gave us it also says that she gets £50,000 per year benefits for having 13 children. That is almost 4 grand a year per child meaning like £10 per day for each child. There is no way a baby can cost so much to look after, even I don't spend that much per day and I'm a young man. But Tasha suggested this, she said that they might not have much money so it would be understandable for them to have more kids for more cash.

So is them not being allowed to use contraception the excuse they have for having so many kids? I'm disgusted at how far they go to get their own way.

Quit the "little boy" attitude please, it doesn't suit you lol.

I'm bored of writing massive essays about this now. My opinion will not change and if anything you will only make it worse. Some Indian lad coming on a majority English forum with "If I had a pound for every time a non-white said they are in the BNP I would have £0" and "UKIP are racist" is just cheeky and asking for trouble. I wouldn't go on an Asian forum and argue about something like this, just like I wouldn't go into an Asian area and argue about something like this. I just keep myself to myself but will always retaliate if someone else starts on here.

Edited by Jamesy (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not make offensive and racist comments.