i can't seem to enjoy life

[Mathew]

I've not read all the replies on the second page but it does remind me a lot about what we were talking about in Psychology a couple of days ago. Very much like OCD, it's all in your head, it just keeps going round and round and round in your head, building up, tension until BANG you need to carry out a specific behaviour to stop it those horrible thoughts in your head. It's not that you see the bad in people and it's not that you have specific routines; it's just because you think you do and you will continue carrying out the behaviour because you think it's the right thing to do. If you don't carry out the behaviour then the thoughts will just keep on going round in your head (when in actual fact, you're just making things worse).

I've been told I had a mild form of OCD a couple of years ago. It never occured to me but when I was told, yeah... I suppose it was quite abnormal from an objective perspective. I made an attempt to stop it before it got too bad - distracted myself from the thoughts, told myself not to do the things and I'm more or less sorted now.

Then again, the same applies for superstitions - I know damn well that putting an umberella up inside will mean naff all, but it's just not something I'd ever want to do.

[FlyingJesus]

I saw this programme on BBC3 basically about how low fat foods, which you consider healthy, actually affect your mood & personality. I think you should definately watch this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...Low_Fat_Foods/

This is a very important point that I'd forgotten about, definitely worth looking into as there's been a proven huge link between diet and mental health. Your "healthy" eating plans are quite likely to leave you missing out on a whole load of necessary vitamins and minerals, and there are also such things as good fats that I think are mostly in like nuts and seeds and that sort of thing

I'd usually just post a picture of a bargin bucket and leave the thread but since it's you Jen I'll refrain from doing so.

Good on you I say. I'm not the best guy to take advice from, I'm a self centered ******* (some would say Narcissist) but I think you are better than them for eating healthy and looking better than them. I don't judge people on skin - I know I have a small amount of acne and I can't do anything about it no matter what I eat - but fat people make me sick. It's right to feel superior to those who lack self control because you ARE.

It's absolutely fine to feel superior to other people (my megalomania is really quite fun most of the time) but if her lifestyle is making her miserable then something needs to change obviously

[Niall!]

Hmm I suppose. The only reason it's fun for me (and presumably you to) is to bully people directly instead of going around them.

[buttons]

This sounds like a good idea. Also there is evidence that people can work through it themselves with support. Some people do not react well to 'therapy'. Knowledge is power and perhaps the more the know why you do this the more empowered you could become to be less reliant upon it. I think everyone to a certain extent relies on rituals just with another label.
This seems like quite a good site to get information and advice from:
http://www.ocduk.org/
Something that has happened has given you this feeling of worthlessness I feel. It's not that you have made yourself so but I feel you are a 'survivor' and will come through this and if you don't get the support in your efforts to get a better education and make a better life for yourself then you will do it 'in spite of them' which is just as good a motivation. Whatever happens try to sort it out in small steps.

hehe i think in this case i know too much! i would rather not know the stuff i do, then maybe i wouldn't try to follow them to a t. thank you rosie i will have a look

You have intelligence, you have health, you have someone caring for you, you have a home.

oh no you'd be surprised i'll tell you later kk

I used to do the same because I figured my own immune system ought to be allowed to work rather than drugging myself up to fix a problem, but that's not really practical always and medicines don't for the most part do any damage to your innate body defences

they also don't for the most part actually help the real problem, just the symptoms!

Being independant isn't doing absolutely everything by yourself, a huge part of independance is taking enough responsibility for yourself to do what you have to in order to make things right, and utilising someone elses specialties isn't being weak or needy, it's being smart and effective. And for the record, I care

is it? really? you know what, it maybe is. therapists are SUPPOSED to help, it's their jobs. i should stop being stubborn. i always tell other people that a strong person shows their real feelings so i'm the weak one myself. i know that but i tell myself everyone else is weak cause then i believe it. i also talk about being independant all the time yet i depend on rules. i talk about needing to be in control yet i don't even have any... and even when i do slip up like say i eat a lot one day or sleep longer than i wanted. it doesn't really bother me that much. i don't put on any weight and when i do ever starve myself i don't lose any weight so is it really necessary to limit myself so much? i don't feel any worse when i eat (unless i eat too much obv which i usually don't because i get full easily and know when to stop) yet i feel worse the more i deprive myself. it's not even about being skinny though, it's to prove something to other people cause i don't want people to have a bad impression on me. i can't understand why, i AM dependant on other people. i can see what this whole thing does to me and others can too but it's like really hard to stop because the being in control makes me happy, albeit only for a short time then it's back to being miserable. i've seen it happen to other people with eating disorders and you just want to tell them to STOP but well idk it's not that easy when you're in the situation i guess

Yeah lol it ranks up there with "just be yourself!"

ooooh i'm actually trying this one, be true to yourself and other people. so i'll start with being honest to everyone else and myself then maybe i'll understand better and get better too.

There's never been a better time to accept it tbh, government's just chucked £400m into mental health research and funding with a view to not only give better resources for patients but also campaign for taking away that stigma and educate the general public that mental illness is a real illness like any other - certainly it can be far more fatal than most viruses and ailments so why not? It's not something that you bring upon yourself and the "just get over it" view is exactly like telling trying to cure AIDs by telling sufferers to stop having it



Better had that's all I posted for ;|

you got 3 rep though what you're a hobo why would anyone listen to you and why don't you just stop having aids, it might work
erm yesyes the irony is i want to be a clinical psychologist so yeah i guess i do believe in mental health, apparently 1 in 3 people are mentally ill but see... to me that sounds like so much that it's normal. & that it's not really a problem, that real mental health is misdiagnosed. so i sorta don't like admitting to it because i don't believe i have that much of a problem. well i do but not like how people think mental illnesses happen. i already have bdd, why does everything need a name? why do i need to be labelled as something just because apparently it's a characteristic of someone who's not functioning adequately. yet 1 in 3 people do so how many people really are sane ;_: it's easier to say someone is ill than to say they're normal so that's why i don't really the mental illlness diagnosing..

I hate Psychs

They scare me cos I swear I always get a paedophile

But you still might aswell have ago with it

lol mine was a WOMAN ******* useless aren't they
i did see my psychologist teacher today. he arranged an interview with me. his first suggestion was 'set yourself goals'. NO. well i managed to say what i wanted cause it just started coming out i thought he was gonna get me sectioned or something cause my reasonings are so illogical but he just said "yes, i understand" and gave me a lot of tips. he says i can still have my routine but just replace it with more positive stuff. not sure how this will work but it's worth a try. omg i also have to tell one person a day why i love them and why i'm thankful to them. he says if i want people to like me i have to LET them like me. that's scary for me idek why but i'm willing to give it a go

I'd much rather prefer to be in your mental state of mind even if it does take over your personality. At least you know your healthy and look good. I didn't know you hated me ;l so rude. I wish people in my life where more pushy like you, all my friends are like "just have a beer, eat it its only once" but it all adds up, my family is worse. They put everything off until tomorrow and tomorrow never comes. I most definitely have an eating disorder, people trolling or not who gives a **** its true though, the only time I'm enjoying myself is when I just eat or drink what I want. If I don't I just can't have fun.

There should be allot more support for people with eating disorders, I know this might be a bit extreme but someone who is an alcohol addict goes cold turkey when they enter these support systems. People with eating disorders don't. If someone with an alcohol addiction had to take a sip of vodka a day to survive imagine how much pain they'd go through. Without food one can not live so the support should be better. That's just how I see it.

Jen if your friends are **** weeds about it **** them.. Do what you want to do, if you can't do it alone go see a doctor. It might seem a bit over the top but it'll help. You shouldn't worry about changing your lifestyle, worry about changing your personality to the way it was before. You can still go out with your friends and not eat all the fatty food. Just remember, your in the right your personality just got confused on the way.

My advice:
Continue to eat how you eat, planning is perfect. You don't have to eat to have a personality.

no really, trust me. i DON'T look good. i looked fine before this, i looked better. i'm destroying my body by what i'm doing. my friends are like that too, you don't need to give in to it but you don't need to restrict yourself. OKAY I AM NOT GIVING ADVICE CAUSE I CAN'T EVEN HELP MYSELF SO DON'T LISTEN TO ME except do cause i'm right omg and i don't hate you shut up i do like larger people. i like you cause you're willing to change, cause you want to change. it's okay if you don't though because you have so much more to offer than i do. you can still enjoy being with your friends and you're so funny whereas i'm like mega naggy and just no fun anymore.
actually, my friends are great. i would never let something like this get in the way of it. we were friends before any of this happened so i'm not gonna throw them away just because i don't like them living their life that way. it's cause i won't tell them exactly what bothers me, cause i'm ashamed of it so they don't really understand... we don't really show each other how we care, we're all 'independent, strong people' or so we like to think. it has a negative impact on all of us because we're so close with each other yet so distant. if your friends keep telling you to eat or something you'll have to explain to them that you don't want to. it's something i'm gonna try too. & if they think it's funny or weird then i wouldn't want to be friends with them anyway...

I saw this programme on BBC3 basically about how low fat foods, which you consider healthy, actually affect your mood & personality. I think you should definately watch this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...Low_Fat_Foods/

thanks, i'll have a look at that tomorrow if i can stand her voice that long

I'd usually just post a picture of a bargin bucket and leave the thread but since it's you Jen I'll refrain from doing so.

Good on you I say. I'm not the best guy to take advice from, I'm a self centered ******* (some would say Narcissist) but I think you are better than them for eating healthy and looking better than them. I don't judge people on skin - I know I have a small amount of acne and I can't do anything about it no matter what I eat - but fat people make me sick. It's right to feel superior to those who lack self control because you ARE.

fat people don't make me sick really but i envy them. so many of them are happy and friendly and i'm like all stuckup/superior when i have no reason to be. i'm not superior to anyone, so why am i trying? i don't want to be superior, that's too much pressure. i would rather be normal and average but yet i still try for perfection. i don't even want to be perfect but it's a habit.
btw about acne well i'm no doctor and no-one should listen to my advice but since i cut out some stuff my skin has been better. i used to have scars on the top of my head from spots when i was around 14 (due to dirt from leftover make-up mm) they've all suddenly gone but so has the glow and pinkness of my face ;o i think it's the dairy products that were clogging my pours though...

I've not read all the replies on the second page but it does remind me a lot about what we were talking about in Psychology a couple of days ago. Very much like OCD, it's all in your head, it just keeps going round and round and round in your head, building up, tension until BANG you need to carry out a specific behaviour to stop it those horrible thoughts in your head. It's not that you see the bad in people and it's not that you have specific routines; it's just because you think you do and you will continue carrying out the behaviour because you think it's the right thing to do. If you don't carry out the behaviour then the thoughts will just keep on going round in your head (when in actual fact, you're just making things worse).

I've been told I had a mild form of OCD a couple of years ago. It never occured to me but when I was told, yeah... I suppose it was quite abnormal from an objective perspective. I made an attempt to stop it before it got too bad - distracted myself from the thoughts, told myself not to do the things and I'm more or less sorted now.

Then again, the same applies for superstitions - I know damn well that putting an umberella up inside will mean naff all, but it's just not something I'd ever want to do.

yeah just a cycle i can't break even if i wanted to cause it's just part of my life now. like i said before, when i do go out of control i don't get caught up on it much because it happens like once in a full moon but that's probably because i make excuses for myself. i have a horrible problem with blaming other people for everything, i don't take responsibility or blame.

This is a very important point that I'd forgotten about, definitely worth looking into as there's been a proven huge link between diet and mental health. Your "healthy" eating plans are quite likely to leave you missing out on a whole load of necessary vitamins and minerals, and there are also such things as good fats that I think are mostly in like nuts and seeds and that sort of thing



It's absolutely fine to feel superior to other people (my megalomania is really quite fun most of the time) but if her lifestyle is making her miserable then something needs to change obviously

nuts and seeds are **** though i don't like them plus all the ~hEaLtHy OaTs~ i see are packed full of sugar. I DON'T LIKE SUGAR. & this is probably why i faint a lot or lack concentration = miserableness.

like rn i am absolutely shattered. i had about 7 hours sleep which is good for me but i hardly ate anything today. i had a weetabix and some chicken roll then when i got home my mum had made a lot of food so i just ate it. that's not bothering me right now but it's just the fact i've got a lot of food in me before i sleep and it's UNNECESSARY. i don't need it right now... it's a habit for me. i don't like eating 3 hours before sleeping. so i'll refuse to sleep.

okokokok reps in order

[Stephen]

How is your telling one person a day why you love them and stuff thing going?

*waits for mine*

[TheEclipse]

That IS depression. Total lack of motivation and lack of enjoyment in life. You don't need to be suicidal or crying all day to be 'depressed'.

[buttons]

How is your telling one person a day why you love them and stuff thing going?

*waits for mine*

i only have to do it whenever i'm feeling particularly down. i'm sorta pissed i have to do it though, i've never been the type to say thank you or tell people how i feel and i don't think that's a bad thing. it feels unnecessary to do it but i guess it won't kill me i have around 7 people i truly want to thank.
you will get yours when i find something good about you hmph!

That IS depression. Total lack of motivation and lack of enjoyment in life. You don't need to be suicidal or crying all day to be 'depressed'.

i know that. i don't really have lack of motivation, i'm motivated right now but not for the future. it's really just lack of energy and negative thoughts but i don't remember a time where i haven't felt negative. not since i was 15 anyway but putting a protective bubble over me thinking it would help usually the opposite. it hasn't killed me so far so is it depression or not? i don't know but i want to change it

[Stephen]

Shutup that's just like a nice way of saying you arent getting one

Goodluck tho

[Hollyish]

haha ******* lol you are a freak just kill urself if u hate ur life that much ;l (not really i would never condone behaviour) or stop being so picky about everything just go home now (well if ur reading this i guess u r home) and mess EVERYTHING up lol

[wixard]

hollyyyyyyy

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