[DISCUSSION] Should Habbox Managers be able to win large Habbox events/competitions?

[Alex3213]

I disagree because as Alex3213 clearly pointed out a couple of pages back, the clue is in their job title. They organise and manage the whole of Habbox, so obviously they're going to play a part in the process of the event / competition / tournament. Once you even have the knowledge of it happening, you're at an advantage and therefore they shouldn't be allowed to enter. Same with HxL, I am unaware of most things they do, so why would I be at an advantage?


Yet again I disagree on the poetry competition. The exact point is that it's subjective. Obviously the prize should go to the person who wrote the best poem, and whether that is chosen through votes or one person, it is the final decision and their individual talent should be rewarded.

Costume Change is the only event banned by Habbox, too.

Yeah I agree with this also. In fact I'm surprised that you want poetry contests as comps managers can't participate because I feel that they're the ones which they should be able to enter. Purely because it's judged on how well the poem is written rather than the bias part of it. If your argument against why they can't enter is because of bias, surely it should be comps like "pick a number between 1 and 200 as I will be picking a winner at random depending on what number comes up on the random number generator!" which they can't enter or simple questions like "What is 20 multiplied by 3?" as a quick HxL comp but has a big prize? Sorry if I don't understand, please explain!

[Richie]

Yeah I agree with this also. In fact I'm surprised that you want poetry contests as comps managers can't participate because I feel that they're the ones which they should be able to enter. Purely because it's judged on how well the poem is written rather than the bias part of it. If your argument against why they can't enter is because of bias, surely it should be comps like "pick a number between 1 and 200 as I will be picking a winner at random depending on what number comes up on the random number generator!" which they can't enter or simple questions like "What is 20 multiplied by 3?" as a quick HxL comp but has a big prize? Sorry if I don't understand, please explain!

How exactly are they meant to do that with a poem? They random number generate a poem and that one could be ****.

I want managers to be able to enter most competitions but my point is there is always going to be that one person who assumes they won due to cheating somehow. With smaller competitions I don't think people acknowledge the winners.

[Alex3213]

How exactly are they meant to do that with a poem? They random number generate a poem and that one could be ****.

I want managers to be able to enter most competitions but my point is there is always going to be that one person who assumes they won due to cheating somehow. With smaller competitions I don't think people acknowledge the winners.

That is not what I said. I'm not stupid, I know that a poetry contest does not get a random winner, the winner is chosen with great inspection of the entries. What I said, however, was that nvr's argument was to bar managers from entering poetry contests, for example- and I presume this would include things such as graphics competitions, story competitions, "what would you do?" situations etc etc. I said that I disagreed with this, I feel that they should be allowed to enter them over any type of competition because I'm presuming nvr's argument is that it's "bias" if they win (in the public point of view thinking "WHAT THE HELL HOW DID THEY WIN THEY'RE A MANAGER HABBOX IS A SCAM" whereas a competition with no input such as the choose a number competition and they win is then when bias could be looked into (even though I know managers wouldn't do it anyway). My post above was showing confusion to why managers should be barred from poetry competitions and the like.

[Hecktix]

That is not what I said. I'm not stupid, I know that a poetry contest does not get a random winner, the winner is chosen with great inspection of the entries. What I said, however, was that nvr's argument was to bar managers from entering poetry contests, for example- and I presume this would include things such as graphics competitions, story competitions, "what would you do?" situations etc etc. I said that I disagreed with this, I feel that they should be allowed to enter them over any type of competition because I'm presuming nvr's argument is that it's "bias" if they win (in the public point of view thinking "WHAT THE HELL HOW DID THEY WIN THEY'RE A MANAGER HABBOX IS A SCAM" whereas a competition with no input such as the choose a number competition and they win is then when bias could be looked into (even though I know managers wouldn't do it anyway). My post above was showing confusion to why managers should be barred from poetry competitions and the like.

I think nvr's point, Alex is although we all know there is nothing but positive intentions, we live in a day and age where people throw accusations about. I agree that to someone who has never used Habbox before, to come to a 200c event or something and see a manager win may be a little bit suspicious, obviously if they stuck around they would find out that it's very rare that a manager would win as Habbox competitions (and I use that term as a collective not in reference to the department specifically) are fair. I think there are valid arguments both for and against this topic which is why this thread has put forward a lot of discussion.

I think nvr is right, to a newbie it could cause a bad first impression or even a bad impression of Habbox but the issue is nothing severe enough to warrant any change.

[Txyla]

I think that Habbox Managers should be able to enter the little events like Falling Furniture and that, but not the big ones like 'WIN 200 CREDITS with....' because mainly, if these are hosted with HxL (like they probably will be) the hosts will probably be a Senior DJ/Radio manager. If this is the case, I think the Radio Managers should not be able to enter. Below Head DJ/Senior DJ should be able to enter, but not higher (normal staff).

[Alex3213]

I think nvr's point, Alex is although we all know there is nothing but positive intentions, we live in a day and age where people throw accusations about. I agree that to someone who has never used Habbox before, to come to a 200c event or something and see a manager win may be a little bit suspicious, obviously if they stuck around they would find out that it's very rare that a manager would win as Habbox competitions (and I use that term as a collective not in reference to the department specifically) are fair. I think there are valid arguments both for and against this topic which is why this thread has put forward a lot of discussion.

I think nvr is right, to a newbie it could cause a bad first impression or even a bad impression of Habbox but the issue is nothing severe enough to warrant any change.

Alright then I understand your point nvr but like Oli said it's not "severe enough to warrant any change" and won't do much harm leaving it the way it is.

I think that Habbox Managers should be able to enter the little events like Falling Furniture and that, but not the big ones like 'WIN 200 CREDITS with....' because mainly, if these are hosted with HxL (like they probably will be) the hosts will probably be a Senior DJ/Radio manager. If this is the case, I think the Radio Managers should not be able to enter. Below Head DJ/Senior DJ should be able to enter, but not higher (normal staff).

Although a lot of events are hosted by HabboxLive you have to remember there are eight other departments plus the General Management team.

[Richie]

Alright then I understand your point nvr but like Oli said it's not "severe enough to warrant any change" and won't do much harm leaving it the way it is.



Although a lot of events are hosted by HabboxLive you have to remember there are eight other departments plus the General Management team.

Now that it's brought up people will fuss, it's just like if they removed the swear filter, people wouldn't swear as often unless you gave them reason to.

[Chippiewill]

I don't think this is a matter of whether it's right for them to take part or not, it's a matter of political fallout. And really in the instance Management are going to have to take the bullet in some cases. If it's any big thing (Like HxSS) then it's not going to work, if it's heavily publicised on the forum side then it's not going to work, if it's heavily publicised elsewhere, you're going to get away with it.

Ultimately this is one of those cases where I'm unsure why you're asking us, any common sense would do in recognising where people might complain and where they probably won't, manager discretion can probably apply. The important thing to do is to make sure that they can take something out of being a manager that counteracts the negatives.

In terms of the winning to give back to your own department, this probably shouldn't be allowed, because whilst to you, you're separate entities that run as separate teams however, to an outsider, what they see is that Habbox won the prize so they can keep the prize to sucker in more people for a different competition where habbox will win again and offer the prize again elsewhere, it gives a bad impression, I do not doubt it is well intended but I fear it'll come across as a scam.

[Josh]

I haven't read the thread.

Most the money goes back into Habbox anyway.

Nevertheless, they should be able to enter the Saturday night quiz and minor competitions hosted on Habboxlive - if they tune in. The bigger competitions that get "special" advertising like that on-air quiz the other night shouldn't be "manager-winnable".

Probably repeated the last 7 pages.

[Mathew]

Yeah that's pretty much what's been said, Josh.

..I don't think I'll be entering the on air competition for 200c though. Great way to exclude people who don't want to go on Skype. It's about as unfair as giving someone credits depending on how good looking they are... :rolleyes:.

I haven't read the thread.

Most the money goes back into Habbox anyway.

Nevertheless, they should be able to enter the Saturday night quiz and minor competitions hosted on Habboxlive - if they tune in. The bigger competitions that get "special" advertising like that on-air quiz the other night shouldn't be "manager-winnable".

Probably repeated the last 7 pages.