Admin Rep Power

[xxMATTGxx]

Is there only me who thinks Martin could just do the jobs of the features manager?

1) Martin is community and therefore responsible for prizes; he'd be able to take care of rep, VIP and awards better than anyone.
2) Martin would benefit from admin on the forum for reasons stated aboved.
3) He would be equal to those around him in General Management who all have admin.
3) Management seem unwilling to give out admin permissions to Martin who has been in management postions for months, yet appear to give them to Cosmic who is new to it (no offence to you on a personal level here, Davey! )

Seems a little obscure.

Oh, and on the topic of the thread... I disagree with admins getting the 20 rep power because they all pretty much have higher and it's therefore no help to anyone. It's just pointless..

1. Two feature managers can do that while the Community AGM can spend time doing the actual role. I rather have the Community AGM doing other roles than doing feature requests which can take up some time if there is a long list of them to be done for whatever reason.

2. N/A

3. Admin/Reputation doesn't mean everyone would be equal. They have it part of the job, if someone doesn't need admin to do their job then they don't get it. It's quite simple to understand that, the reputation is for admins only due to the setting in "Vb settings". It was set up by Jin and it's been like this for a while.

Plus it goes like this: Sierk/Jin > Me > AGMs.

4. Cosmic isn't new to be honest. He's been a moderator and super moderator and other roles if I remember correctly. He knows how to work the panel, he isn't an issue at all.

[-Danube-]

Rep doesn't mean a whole lot to me and so i wouldn't mind being equal with everyone and having the actual rep power i earned, at least it's fair then?

Although Matt G made a good argument about it being implemented by Jin so that Admins could reward people rep for good ideas etc. But surely Martin should get 20 rep power if this were the case!!!!!

And by saying i think Martin should get 20 rep power, doesn't mean i think he should have Admin, i think it's that he should have 20 rep power as being a Comm AGM he can use his rep as prizes for staff of the month for staff in his departments.

Martin doesn't have Admin for 1 reason and that because he doesn't need to use it, not because he's not trusted or not on our level *pats martins head*

[Inseriousity.]

a 'fairer' system implemented.

The fairest system is surely to stick with the reputation power that you've earnt rather than increasing/decreasing the one you've got. As for certain admins needing it for competitions, which is what I think you said (i might be wrong), they have the admin to add rep through admin cp so no problems there.

[Mathew]

I had offered to do it, It's a small thing which doesn't take long, but in the long run I have to request everything including all prizes etc the same way as anyone else would anyway so it would have probably saved time, but I think they want to keep the structure as 2 features managers. I am pleased Davey has got it, because I know he will do a great job, and being a smod previously he also has experience with panels etc.

Perhaps there's a couple of problems if the AGM for the Community has to request their own prizes then. I wouldn't say this is a problem with just your role, but I find the whole system incredibly drawn-out and time consuming. I think there's too many people doing seperate things and it results in severe lack of organisation and communication.

Oh, what do I know. It's not like anything is going to change.

@matt

Really, being features manager has nothing to do with being able to manage anything or anyone in the sense of a department so I completely disagree with you there as there's no managerial experience required. It's not like I've just sprang up out of no where and I know you meant no personal offence there, but I can't help but take some.

I have no idea what past roles you've had so forgive me, but I feel it tends to help if you've had experience with panels and ACP. The point I was trying to make is that Habbox has always been uptight about giving permissions out to people and as sct has pointed out above; the work could have gone to others.

But as I said before, I think the 20 rep power per admin thing should be removed and a 'fairer' system implemented.

Indeed, the fairer system is to let them earn it.

Martin doesn't have Admin for 1 reason and that because he doesn't need to use it, not because he's not trusted or not on our level *pats martins head*

Patronising.

[scott]

Perhaps there's a couple of problems if the AGM for the Community has to request their own prizes then. I wouldn't say this is a problem with just your role, but I find the whole system incredibly drawn-out and time consuming. I think there's too many people doing seperate things and it results in severe lack of organisation and communication.

Oh, what do I know. It's not like anything is going to change.


I have no idea what past roles you've had so forgive me, but I feel it tends to help if you've had experience with panels and ACP. The point I was trying to make is that Habbox has always been uptight about giving permissions out to people and as sct has pointed out above; the work could have gone to others.


Indeed, the fairer system is to let them earn it.


Patronising.

Cosmic was a Super Moderator for a considerable number of months previously so yes he does have experience with the panels, not that that really matters as it's something that can be learned. We've always had features managers, whether they were called VIP Manager or whatever they were called when we had VIP they are still needed now and I think it's best we have the features managers are they do play a big part in it. Also i'm sure if David or Dan needed a prize given out they would request it the same way as Martin does I really don't see the problem in that

[Inseriousity.]

Also i'm sure if David or Dan needed a prize given out they would request it the same way as Martin does I really don't see the problem in that

lol which insane person would do that. "Oh I could do this myself 10 times faster but I'll go through a layer of bureaucracy to get there"

[xxMATTGxx]

lol which insane person would do that. "Oh I could do this myself 10 times faster but I'll go through a layer of bureaucracy to get there"

Because I told them to.

[scott]

lol which insane person would do that. "Oh I could do this myself 10 times faster but I'll go through a layer of bureaucracy to get there"

Because it's Cosmic/brandons job to do it and I'm sure they'd have to request it - I have permissions to do it all myself and I still request it. It's easier for everyone and it's easier to monitor if it's done that way I guess

[Inseriousity.]

And have they?

[Mathew]

Also i'm sure if David or Dan needed a prize given out they would request it the same way as Martin does I really don't see the problem in that

Yes yes, that's what I'm saying. Assistant General Managers are typically "second in command" (for lack of a better phrase), so why they have to request things is beyond me.

If an AGM wants a notice, they need to see Forum Manager.
If an AGM wants to give someone rep, award or VIP, they need to see a features manager.
If David wanted to add an event to the panel, apparently he'd need to speak to Martin.

There are far too many chains of communication and I just find it silly how AGMs are constantly having to go speak to people when things would be much quicker if they just DID IT. As I've said countless times, Habbox is trying too hard to be organised and professional like a business. There are logs in place such as rep quota / VIP log to take note of what is going on, so the argument about being "easier to monitor" doesn't work.

Here's an example: when MG was sorting our features requests, I would spend so long making sure my request included all the necessary details (bold in the correct places as the code is messed up... name.. colour.. months.. how many before.. etc). I've just checked, and between me posting the request and MG posting done, it was 2 minutes. If this is the case for AGMs who will be requesting lots of prizes, then I fear for how their time is being spent.