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    Quote Originally Posted by samsaBEAR View Post
    If someone is stupid enough to dabble with dangerous drugs time after time then they deserve everything that happens to them
    perhaps foolish to start with but no one deserves to die

    Quote Originally Posted by Yuxin View Post
    Your negitivity is starting to get on my nerves.
    They're are right, they are to blame, she was the one taking the drugs, shes the one who took an overdose, who else is there to blame? But even tho its her fault I don't belive she deserved to die.
    wrong. do you genuinely believe that she actively sought to take such an amount that would kill her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judas View Post
    how many times do you have to be told that it is NOT. A. CHOICE. TO. BECOME. ADDICTED. TO. DRUGS.

    it makes me SO angry to know there are people like you that think people like my friends brother and amy winehouse decided they were going to become an addict and **** up their lives because of it. people like that are MENTALLY ILL. you do NOT just suddenly decide that you're going to get hooked on heroine and cocaine or whatever the **** it may be and let it screw up your entire life. these kind of events are triggered off by things in the person in question's life. people like that are troubled souls.

    i am highly offended by you saying getting addicted is a stupid thing. so many lives are lost and families are torn apart by these incidents and it is such a shame that disrespectful idiots like you cannot see past the black and white face of these problems and understand what is underneath.
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    Sorry but unless someone is forced into a lifestyle then they are responsible for their own actions.

    The problem is who really knows Amy Whinehouse? Because all these people who seem to be sticking up for her are like you don't know what she was going through but the problem is no one knows the true situation.

    Maybe she had depression, maybe she just took drugs for fun or maybe it was a mixture of the two. However no one can ignore it had a starting point, a point where she said yes took them and from then on slowly started to spiral out of control. The fact is that if she had said no, which she could of, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation now.

    One thing that I've wondered - the song, her first I think, Rehab, she is saying no to rehab. I don't know much about winehouse but if its her refusing any help then isn't it also her own fault as in she should have admitted her problems and got help.

    Now as I mentioned in a previous post, there are people brought up into drugs, forced into a horrible world, some who want to get out and never can and it isn't their fault. Some do manage to get out and manage to make something of their lives. Because of that it annoys me when celebrities with a fair amount of money use it to ruin their lives with drugs. It's like they got the perfect job, they are rich, other people would love to get where they where but they still put it at risk. I'm sure they'd feel different about drugs if they swapped with one of those who had been brought up with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samsaBEAR View Post
    If someone is stupid enough to dabble with dangerous drugs time after time then they deserve everything that happens to them
    addiction isn't stupidity, addiction is a disease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteyt View Post
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    Sorry but unless someone is forced into a lifestyle then they are responsible for their own actions.

    The problem is who really knows Amy Whinehouse? Because all these people who seem to be sticking up for her are like you don't know what she was going through but the problem is no one knows the true situation.

    Maybe she had depression, maybe she just took drugs for fun or maybe it was a mixture of the two. However no one can ignore it had a starting point, a point where she said yes took them and from then on slowly started to spiral out of control. The fact is that if she had said no, which she could of, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation now.

    One thing that I've wondered - the song, her first I think, Rehab, she is saying no to rehab. I don't know much about winehouse but if its her refusing any help then isn't it also her own fault as in she should have admitted her problems and got help.

    Now as I mentioned in a previous post, there are people brought up into drugs, forced into a horrible world, some who want to get out and never can and it isn't their fault. Some do manage to get out and manage to make something of their lives. Because of that it annoys me when celebrities with a fair amount of money use it to ruin their lives with drugs. It's like they got the perfect job, they are rich, other people would love to get where they where but they still put it at risk. I'm sure they'd feel different about drugs if they swapped with one of those who had been brought up with them.
    of course none of us know what really kicked it all off. but my own opinion and belief is that a series of events including her grandmother's death and meeting blake kicked off the drug habit.

    concerning 'rehab', i'm pretty sure that song is about a drink problem, that's what it sounds like to me anyway. maybe the drink has been a long problem that started before back to black came out, and the drugs came after that and just made her problem a whole lot worse? who knows. all i know is that i am not blaming anyone. it's just a horrible thing that can happen to a person.

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    Newspapers have changed their tunes this morning. Reports suggest no drugs were involved and she may have commit suicide... The plot thickenst

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke View Post
    What's really pissing me off is people on Facebook like "She deserved it" or "I have no sympathy for people who take drugs" - all this coming from people who drink alcohol themselves. Their argument is "alcohol is safe". I am actually astounded at the ignorance of a lot people nowadays
    Taking the morale high ground are we?

    Look, drugs are fine in the right amounts. Not hard drugs, they're illegal, for a reason. Alcohol and tobacco aren't and are fine but she was a hardcore drug user as has been much publicised by her close relatives and friends and she died from it - I do not have any sympathy for her at all.

    No one deserves death, but when people kill themselves - no sympathy. That's including suicide or whatever.

    Haters gonna hate but that's the truth.

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    does not come as a shock if I am honest, anyhow its a shame though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamwingie View Post
    Taking the morale high ground are we?

    Look, drugs are fine in the right amounts. Not hard drugs, they're illegal, for a reason. Alcohol and tobacco aren't and are fine but she was a hardcore drug user as has been much publicised by her close relatives and friends and she died from it - I do not have any sympathy for her at all.

    No one deserves death, but when people kill themselves - no sympathy. That's including suicide or whatever.

    Haters gonna hate but that's the truth.
    no it's not the truth, that's your opinion.

    if you don't want to appreciate that people like those in the situations you have mentioned usually have extremely troubled pasts, then fine. you can be an ignorant fool all you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judas View Post
    no it's not the truth, that's your opinion.

    if you don't want to appreciate that people like those in the situations you have mentioned usually have extremely troubled pasts, then fine. you can be an ignorant fool all you want.
    And this is why I left the forum, because people cannot have an argument without turning to expletives. Grow up and come back with a counter-argument and maybe I'll reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamwingie View Post
    And this is why I left the forum, because people cannot have an argument without turning to expletives. Grow up and come back with a counter-argument and maybe I'll reply.
    i think you will find that i never used an expletive?
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