God or Fact?

[Lost_Addict]

The Question is: How can you be certain of what comes after death?

[Marbian]

And here is the first example of what i expect to be many narrow minded opinions

Please explain to me how it's narrow minded to know the world goes more than 3000 years?

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He said he believed in some kind of 'God', not that he was a full on belief basher? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on what they choose to believe in. Please respect that? ;\

Science/History defiantly outweighs the God believed in by Christians for me. It's always nice to have some belief surely and I'm guessing thats why most people choose to believe. It gives them hope that all is not lost when you die and when you are in a time of need, you feel as if God would be listening.

His quote to everyone seeing different colour's, was nothing to do with him believing in some type of god. I hardly disrespect religion's, but they'll keep believing if they aren't taught darling!

[Manhattan]

The Question is: How can you be certain of what comes after death?

In which case my answer is:

How can you be certain of what comes after death?

Do you still not understand what I mean by you are asking me a rhetorical question?!

[Lost_Addict]

I cant be certain and im not, but you stated there was absolutley no chance in a heaven/hell which i see as ignorant.

And marbian i thought you were being narrow minded as you couldn't see the reason as to why people have beliefs or religions.

[Accipiter]

I didn't say that, I just said I don't see how life can 'just end'. It may not be a mystical house, but I don't understand how it can finish so quickly never to return.

The same way you would fall asleep

[GommeInc]

Hmm, the question put forward isn't really a good one. It's what is more believable to you. "Facts" are up for interpretation and the "Big Bang Theory" is a theory, not an actual fact. I personally believe the Big Bang Theory to be more understandable and believable than the Creation Theory, as you can recreate certain experiments and easily explain through science the creation of certain things, like planets, which are more understandable on an extreme scale than that of a man creating the world in seven days and only creating two people to produce the human race - which in some cases is believable seeing as many people out there act as if there was a lot of imbreeding in their family judging by their appauling behaviour and lack of rational thought.

In short, I don't believe in God or fact as the question isn't clear and makes no sense.

[RealClifford]

What a load of ******** you just written. We humans see the same colour, unless you're colour blind. They know this more because of Optical illusion. Certian colours need to be just right for illuisons, etc.

I'll believe in science than stories anyday. Saddens me that you will believe in stuff written by MAN thousands of years ago, than science. A lot of stuff is made by science, a lot of stuff is prooven with science. When the bible was made, they didn't know what space was... Oh what they thought the world was flat too?

The bible states the world was made 3000 years ago. Where there is stuff that you don't even need a little science to know that it's been there for million's. Ejyptian's even happened before Christian. And for anyone to choose 1 god out of all the others there are, is even more of a wtf to me.

If I was to ever consider a god, I wouldn't follow a faith. I'd follow my own, to live, to breath, and suvive and make babies for generations. Defintely with all these different types of gods... It's like risking all you got on the lottery.

Where in the Bible does it say 3000 years ago?
It states that 2000 years ago JESUS came.. NOT the world was created.. Please get ya'll "Facts" straight before talkin bout something ya don't know.

You claim you know science, yet have no idea about what the Bible contains nor do you understand the reasoning behind my belief in Christianity..

I may not understand ALOT of science but I know enough to know that ALOT of it is theory, doing year 12 physics, my experience was alot of it was, "This is how it is, we don't know for sure, but we think its there.."

Since when is assumption fact? Feel free to explain that one...

Narrowminded much?

[Marbian]

Where in the Bible does it say 3000 years ago?
It states that 2000 years ago JESUS came.. NOT the world was created.. Please get ya'll "Facts" straight before talkin bout something ya don't know.

You claim you know science, yet have no idea about what the Bible contains nor do you understand the reasoning behind my belief in Christianity..

I may not understand ALOT of science but I know enough to know that ALOT of it is theory, doing year 12 physics, my experience was alot of it was, "This is how it is, we don't know for sure, but we think its there.."

Since when is assumption fact? Feel free to explain that one...

Narrowminded much?

Funny aye... Science has many proofs, and facts. Maybe a couple of thing's that aren't certien... Obviously, us as people aren't a god. And you'll denie science over that and say it's terrible. But you... You'll carry on believing a fairy tale that a god exisists and is looking down at you etcetc and all that ****... haha... crazy people.

And science isn't a belief. It's science, like maths, working stuff out. Most of the things we got and do today is from science.. not god. oh but you'll say god gave us that thought to do it but then you'll say god thinks we're destorying the world and all that crap.

So don't come here acting like I'm some dumbass when YOU will believe in crap writtin thousands of years ago and dedicate your life to it.

Christian's also tell me that God gives you your thought's, and the person you are... Okay, so god made me not to believe in him, and you'll mock me for that... Hmm, aren't you mocking God's creation though?

And as just another redirection Christian, you ignore all the other things and argrue with the things that are a little more easier to asnwer to with all your brain washed sucked up crap. Loads of great points pointed out in here, and none of them will get answered apart from OH HOLLY GODDDDD HERE IS A SIN.!!!

[Marbian]

I cant be certain and im not, but you stated there was absolutley no chance in a heaven/hell which i see as ignorant.

And marbian i thought you were being narrow minded as you couldn't see the reason as to why people have beliefs or religions.

I've 2nded people saying religion is for secuirty of thought, to feel safe, to be a better person, and I respected the bible and how it roles. But being denial to your god makes me a bad person? Whos your responsiablity to tell people their going to hell because they don't follow your god... pointing out all the other 'religions' there is.

I mainly believe if it was anything that created the world, created the univerise... It's to live, suvive, live on till generation's until your time is up. People die because there isn't fair tales, there isn't magic... Not to do the opposite and bash a book that was also writtin by people just like us, but what, thousands of years ago perhaps?

We're all born Atheist's. No idea of god, until the idea from someone else has given it us. The bible doesn't end up in your imagination by it self. The same as learning language's... There's always a main source where it comes from. And don't say because god gave us it... God gave us the thought of murder, the thought of hanging people, slitting people open, fairys, santa... he gave us all that as well did he? no. our minds have a imagination's, and is something that can be played with. (also scinentivity proven that people can be brain washed into anything, a lot comnig from to feel secuirity and safe).

I don't see animal's praying to god etc, I only see them do what is normal, living... wanting food to suvive, and to find a match to create a baby. Then dieing... But it's done it's job, by living on it's race, etc. The only time I don't see a animal do that, is when there ****** up and trained by us humans, taking away their natrual insincts.

[iAdam]

I used to be a science man but a few things have happened that make me question myself. It's a tricky one and no one should be tarnished in any way whether they do believe or don't believe.

Two things that do annoy me in this argument though is;

A) There's no proof god exists.
That's because belief is exactly that, it's faith, faith means you will accept something no matter what happens and it's something you believe to be true.

B) All of Science is theoretical.
No it's not, I can prove to you that the world is made of atoms, which are made of protons, which are then made up of quarks etc. I can also prove to you that the reactions that we have seen on Earth can theoretically explain why the Universe is here today.