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    Well it is not proven and so it could be true but couldn't be true. However I personaly don't think you can be born gay!

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    Really interesting reading through this thread... So much focus on the origins of a word oO

    But on topic, I feel it's a mixture of the two

    I do disagree though that the default setting of a person is straight. Just because this is the majority/has previously been the accepted norm, it doesnt make the point correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by .Tom. View Post
    Really interesting reading through this thread... So much focus on the origins of a word oO

    But on topic, I feel it's a mixture of the two

    I do disagree though that the default setting of a person is straight. Just because this is the majority/has previously been the accepted norm, it doesnt make the point correct
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judas View Post
    And the evidence you have to back up these facts is what?

    I respect your opinion but don't tell me things like they are absolutely true. And why assume that some people pretend to be gay to act cool? That is such a cynical thing to say that is so irrelevant to this question, that some may be offended by :rolleyes:
    Can't really show you any evidences but some people I know.. they said they are gay because it's cool. It is not my own assumption. It is based on my experiences with some friends. I wouldn't say it out in a debate if it's not true, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Publicised View Post
    i think the parts bolded are incredibly offensive, sure i'm gonna get another -rep from you from voicing an opinion (and what you say is an opinion, it's not fact) different to yours, but whatever. not a talent? whoever said having a sexuality was a talent. and the second point is just... "some of the gay people" they're not a seperate breed from you, they're still humans and A LOT of the gay people i know would prefer to be straight as they feel they'd have one less hassle in their life. and of course they're gonna stand up for themselves, even in the 21st century homophobia is ripe. and yr kinda proving it here, the way you are talking is borderline homophobic and it's not even intentional i believe. it's just because you have no knowledge of homosexuality.
    First of all, I -rep you because you don't even know what's going on between me and Lamar and straight away jump into your own conclusions. Second, sexuality preferences is not a talent. That's what I'm trying to say here. You can't just say 'I am gay ever since I was born'. It's a simile to what I'm saying. Third, they are NOT a separate breed. That I will have to agree with you because it's true. But, did I say anything that means like I'm hating them? I use the word 'some' to indicate just a few of them. I cannot say all gay people are gay because they think it's cool, right? It's not true. Just a few of them. Not all. And it's based on my experiences with gay people. If you want to deny my experiences, then go on. Fourth, what did I say to prove that I'm a homophobic? I don't get you, Bethie. I respect gay people. But, some of them are trying to act cool by saying they're gay just like how you might think it's cool if you have a gun. Although it doesn't happen to you, it doesn't mean that it never happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Publicised View Post
    i said borderline for a reason but i do believe there was negative connotation from her words towards homosexuality/homosexuals. which i disagree with.
    You can deny my opinions by stating facts or evidences because debate is CLEARLY about facts/evidences. The 'I believe...' thing that you just said will not make any slight difference if you don't have any facts/evidences. So, stop jumping into conclusions please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Publicised View Post
    gay culture
    If I'm not mistaken, you mentioned 'gay culture' twice in your post. Gay isn't supposed to be a culture, right? It's rather a sexual preference. If you keep on going with your gay culture thingy, then people will start to say this blahblah country is famous with its gay culture. Like I said, I respect gay people but people who say they are gay because they think it's cool is really undoubtedly annoying. They are confused between their own sexual orientation and being under influence.

    Last edited by GirlNextDoor15; 27-10-2011 at 03:11 AM. Reason: sorry for double posting.

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    In my opinion I don't think you are born gay, and I don't think you are born straight.

    Its really who you grow up around, most people are brought up around straight people and because of that they think that they have to be straight, but as you start to gain experience with people, you start to realise that you might like different people.

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    I never heard a straight person with a gay voice, or gay traits. Serious gay traits.
    So I Am gonna say they are born that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie:Safety View Post
    I never heard a straight person with a gay voice, or gay traits. Serious gay traits.
    So I Am gonna say they are born that way.
    The only "gay traits" are being sexually/romantically involved with someone of your own gender. As for "gay voice", just wow. Camp =/= gay
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    The only "gay traits" are being sexually/romantically involved with someone of your own gender. As for "gay voice", just wow. Camp =/= gay
    There are more traits then just the ones your said..
    Like the one i said.

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    I find it interesting to be honest.

    I know there are a lot of gays who are and who are not religious and I'm just curious that's all.

    On the topic of being "born gay", if you are not religious and you believe our only purpose on this earth is to reproduce, how on earth can you be born gay? Surely it's one of those Adam and Eve situations...

    Secondly if you were religious, I'm sure that all or most religions teach about a man and a woman, therefore it would be your choice to be gay?

    I'm not hating, just curious.
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