Labour: White boys underachievement linked to mass migration

[karter]

Actually the definition comes from this guy. (Each and everything does not come from a fired up internet activist)

Because you think a black guy beating a white guy is motivated by race when it's actually motivated by continuous discrimination and oppression. Black guy beating a hispanic, asian etc man would be racism. I think you're more troubled by the fact that coloured people are less likely to be labelled as racists than white people.

[-:Undertaker:-]

let me knock a few gems of your white crown and tell you why racism against "white people" does not exist.

I love it when people claim that racism doesn't exist when it's directed at white people because of history - they've clearly forgotton about the Ottoman Empire which used to capture white Europeans and use them as slaves... as well as the way lighter skinned Indians treat darker skinned Indians, or the way Africans of one tribe used to capture and sell members of another tribe to slave traders of both European and Arab ethnic background. Just look at South Sudan today, a conflict going on based on ethnic grounds.... yet only white people can be racist. Mmm k.

I agree with Tom in what he's said, I can't even really respond to karter because there's nothing to respond to other than accusations that i'm a racist when I haven't ever once uttered a word claiming that people of a different skin colour are inferior to me because i'm white. If I really was a nasty racist, then I wouldn't be living with a second generation Indian Briton at university, would I? Dimwitted fool.

[karter]

If I really was a nasty racist, then I wouldn't be living with a second generation Indian Briton at university, would I? Dimwitted fool.

Lovely. Concluding you're not racist while using a racist statement.

Wait...no....I mean....THIS GUY. he's associating with a real Indian origin person? Damn he's a character..maybe his association with a person other than his race will free this guy from his prejudiced self! Amazing. We need more people like this guy

[-:Undertaker:-]

Lovely. Concluding you're not racist while using a racist statement.

Wait...no....I mean....THIS GUY. he's associating with a real Indian origin person? Damn he's a character..maybe his association with a person other than his race will free this guy from his prejudiced self! Amazing. We need more people like this guy

LOL what? what's racist about that? Me and my mate actually couldn't give a hoot about racism/skin colour hence why we always bash eachother over the head with racism as a running joke. Y'know, banter just as my entire sixth form had with my other mate who's from Kenya and was very black - him and another guy were known as Lenny and Carl from the Simpsons. But you know, for all the times you've called me a racist you haven't once be able to point out where i've said somebody/a race is better or worse because of their skin colour. Why? because I don't believe that. Culture is what makes a people better or worse, not a skin colour or tone.

*waits for a post in response to tell me how that exposes my deep flaws as a perfect human being like yourself and im a nasty racist*

[karter]

The part where you needed to tell me that you're friends with a person other than your own race actually sums it up?

Also "I don't see skin colour" is a nice excuse to avoid talking about racism. However ignoring that you're deviating from the fact that the person had a different life experience, society sees them differently..

Colout consciousness is not racism

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I think I have covered the parts where your obvious racist opinions ooze out(you know..the previous threads)

I'm just a bit surprised that you still are in denial, I'm not going to make another post but I do hope you work on your internal prejudice and race superiority complex. Goodbye

[-:Undertaker:-]

The part where you needed to tell me that you're friends with a person other than your own race actually sums it up?

Uhhh well because it goes without question that if I really was a racist, then I wouldn't be living with somebody with a 'lesser' skin tone than me would I? ..and I certainly wouldn't be friends with them.

Also "I don't see skin colour" is a nice excuse to avoid talking about racism. However ignoring that you're deviating from the fact that the person had a different life experience, society sees them differently..

Colout consciousness is not racism

I'll talk about racism anytime, when it's genuine racism - I will not on the other hand have complete and utter bullcrap fed to me that white people cannot experience racism (just ask the white Rhodesians or white South Africans) nor will I standby while statements about white people are made that would result in a telling off at the very least if they were made about black/chinese/other coloured people.

I think I have covered the parts where your obvious racist opinions ooze out(you know..the previous threads)

I'm just a bit surprised that you still are in denial, I'm not going to make another post but I do hope you work on your internal prejudice and race superiority complex.

Yeah except you haven't been able to ever quote me being racist so you lose. Again.

[Ardemax]

Well if it's the Daily Mail we're talking about... I'll just leave this here.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Well if it's the Daily Mail we're talking about... I'll just leave this here.

We're not talking about the Daily Mail nor has it been posted or quoted in this thread.

Had too much to drink tonight?

[FlyingJesus]

Actually the definition comes from this guy. (Each and everything does not come from a fired up internet activist)

Privilege + power definitions have been around a lot longer than since January. Furthermore, someone repeating a lie doesn't make it less of one

Because you think a black guy beating a white guy is motivated by race when it's actually motivated by continuous discrimination and oppression. Black guy beating a hispanic, asian etc man would be racism. I think you're more troubled by the fact that coloured people are less likely to be labelled as racists than white people.

Where are you getting this nonsense? I said someone being beaten for being white - nothing about a black attacker, nothing about what the white person may or may not have done, just simply someone taking time out of their day to attack someone for the pure reason that they are white. The person they are attacking has not oppressed them just by existing, and you're being hideously racist by suggesting that all white people are oppressors. You're probably of the opinion that a few white people making laws means that all white people are at fault for them, but you've used the apex fallacy before (when you claimed that women are an oppressed group in a society that raises them above everyone and caters to their every need, which was also hilariously wrong) and it still remains a fallacy.

Also a black guy attacking an Asian would not by necessity be racism. You are all over the place here and you seem to have no real grasp of what you're talking about. No need to tell me what I think either, especially when you're wrong about that too. Ad homs aren't required.

[karter]

I was specifically talking about first world countries - both Zimbabwe and South Africa are not first world countries

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Also a black guy attacking an Asian would not by necessity be racism.

Woops yeah should've been more clear on that one. If a black guy attacks an asian guy solely on racial reasons, that's racism.

Black guy attacking white guy - a result of institutional racism

White guy attacking black guy - you fill in the reason here

We're talking about hate crimes only here before you flip out.

And don't think that I am sympathizing with the black guy beating a white guy, a crime is a crime he should be tried equally but the first one still ain't racism. I stand by this statement whether you like it or not.