Ukraine on the verge of disintegration

[God]

A more accurate map.


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Pretty sure nobody wants riots and people getting killed in protests

I only skimmed through the article at first and thought they had succeeded.

[lemons]

who saw the vid of all the mp's voting to get the president out hahah that is so funny the countdown and singing made me laugh


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I have a question

If the Ukraine split into two countries, will there be 2 seperate Eurovision entries? thanks.

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If the Ukraine split into two countries, will there be 2 seperate Eurovision entries? thanks.

Yes, Eurovision (to my knowledge) is based on sovereign states. The Ukraine and the new state would be seperate sovereign states.

[MKR&*42]

Never would I have guessed this thread would end up discussing Eurovision??

[lemons]

Never would I have guessed this thread would end up discussing Eurovision??

JUST THINK SCOTLAND WILL HAVE THEIR OWN ENTRY AS WELL IF THEY GET INDEPENDENCE!

[MKR&*42]

JUST THINK SCOTLAND WILL HAVE THEIR OWN ENTRY AS WELL IF THEY GET INDEPENDENCE!

Oh my god lmaooooo

Screw any financial and political issues, let's worry about Eurovision entries.

[The Don]

A more accurate map.


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Pretty sure nobody wants riots and people getting killed in protests

Obviously he never meant that. The fact that majority of the population wanted to have friendlier relations with the rest of Europe as opposed to being Russia's lapdog is what he was obviously referring to.

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Obviously he never meant that. The fact that majority of the population wanted to have friendlier relations with the rest of Europe as opposed to being Russia's lapdog is what he was obviously referring to.

Why do you say lapdog in relation to Russia but use the term 'friendlier' when it comes to relations with the west/EU? Do you really think that US does not pressure it's 'allies' in much the same way as Russia does? That's without even mentioning the EU which openly dominates it's member states.

The pro-Russia Government of Ukraine was elected by a majority in the Ukraine, not the other way around: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraini...election,_2012 This Russia=bad and America=good Cold War mentality really needs to be put to bed.

[The Don]

Why do you say lapdog in relation to Russia but use the term 'friendlier' when it comes to relations with the west/EU? Do you really think that US does not pressure it's 'allies' in much the same way as Russia does? That's without even mentioning the EU which openly dominates it's member states.

The pro-Russia Government of Ukraine was elected by a majority in the Ukraine, not the other way around: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraini...election,_2012 This Russia=bad and America=good Cold War mentality really needs to be put to bed.

Because they actively want to become friendlier with the EU, they are being forced by Russia not to. Ukraine is (or was) very much still under heavy influence from the Kremlin, the same cannot be said about the EU, which is why they are Russia's lapdog. Pretty self explanatory, no?

In response to the Cold War tidbit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupt...cal_corruption

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Because they actively want to become friendlier with the EU, they are being forced by Russia not to. Ukraine is (or was) very much still under heavy influence from the Kremlin, the same cannot be said about the EU, which is why they are Russia's lapdog. Pretty self explanatory, no?

In response to the Cold War tidbit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupt...cal_corruption

How do you reach such a conclusion when the pro-Russian government won the election?

You'd be correct in saying that a large portion of the country wants closer ties with the European Union, yes. But so would a statement which says a large proportion of the country seeks closer ties with the Russian Federation instead. Both are correct, not just one BBC version.

The constant Russia bashing and anti-Russia propaganda in the western media is so transparent and boring.