My ideas :)

[immense]

some of them defo haven't though! i know some of them have. i have FAITH things can be fixed saurav!

[The Don]

What a great post, and a lot of effort has gone into that. I agree with almost everything you have said. Immense should be staff!
Too tired to write anything else ;o.

[immense]

What a great post, and a lot of effort has gone into that. I agree with almost everything you have said. Immense should be staff!
Too tired to write anything else ;o.

As I've said already, I think I can help more as a member Thanks a lot though.

[Tintinnabulate]

some of them defo haven't though! i know some of them have. i have FAITH things can be fixed saurav!

Me and you alone, followed by both me and you together, followed by us alone again have suggested ideas so many times. Same ideas such as more management interaction. Several months on, you are having to suggest it again. Clearly shows they don't act on the feedback.

That's why I am slowly giving up on the feedback now.

[immense]

I don't think feedback is ever ignored without reason. Call me naive. Maybe I am. Some of these ideas are fresh. Some aren't. The ones that aren't may have been considered before but weren't relevant at the time. Now it has been acknowledged there has been a slump maybe it is worth giving some of these ideas a go. Maybe it isn't. Management do want what is best for the forum. So do we.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I don't think feedback is ever ignored without reason. Call me naive. Maybe I am. Some of these ideas are fresh. Some aren't. The ones that aren't may have been considered before but weren't relevant at the time. Now it has been acknowledged there has been a slump maybe it is worth giving some of these ideas a go. Maybe it isn't. Management do want what is best for the forum. So do we.

They do have that in mind, there was a post in the management forum only a week or so back over what they class as 'Feedback bullying' which sounds basically to me as something that can cover anything that is critical of themselves/habbox staff or management in general. This of course is a term so generalising that it could mean anything critical of management can be classed as bullying.

In other words, they are looking for ways to close threads because they are above criticism you see.

[Tintinnabulate]

I don't think feedback is ever ignored without reason. Call me naive. Maybe I am. Some of these ideas are fresh. Some aren't. The ones that aren't may have been considered before but weren't relevant at the time. Now it has been acknowledged there has been a slump maybe it is worth giving some of these ideas a go. Maybe it isn't. Management do want what is best for the forum. So do we.

Indeed but when they make idiotic decisions then there is hardly any hope for improvement. I am sure Richie or someone suggested that the site is being neglected a few months ago. They got the same v6 excuse. Bloody hell, give the GM power. So what is Jin is owner? He was hardly on this summer and due to that Habbox suffered. It would have been better to give the GM enough power and to trust him with a site design etc.

I go on Habbo and people don't seem to like Habbox. They don't even know who the management are. For example me and Garion went in rooms shouting Habbox and hardly anyone knew who the hell he was. This is backed up by the fact hardly anyone knew him on CHF.

Management hardly post on the forum :S so they are fully dead on Habbo.

Would be nice if they acted on the advice as you have clearly taken time to write it, but I can just see them replying agreeing etc but nothing will happen. Its the same thing everytime...

[nvrspk4]

With regards to merging habbox and hxl I did suggest it a few times a while ago but the whole hxl department seemed dead set against it and would not budge at all. I'll reply to the rest tomorrow, going bed now.

P.s: woo I got mentioned

this is true, or at least was true when i was part of the department over the summer.
hxl need to swallow the fact they don't warrant their own site, they're not THAT important anymore and they need the merge to survive.

Tbh part of it was also jess on a power trip because if it was merged she wouldn't have her own site to edit. I think I remember that being mentioned.

To the above three posts, to be fair to HabboxLive and Jess, the reason it was probably repealed was because of me. I was set against it personally as an AGM, I put my opinion forward to the GM and he disagreed, that was the end of that. When I was GM, after HxL having been on the site for a while, I decided to unmerge the sites. Jess was certainly a proponent, but that decision can be placed on my shoulders, no need to blame anyone else.

Also, just while we're on the topic, as Sam can back me up, Jess could be a massive massive massive pain in my ass sometimes, because she was very pro-HxL, but I think that was a great thing. She defended her staff and fought for her department, and she made sure her department's interests were protected. If every manager were to do that, it would actually make many departments much better.

I am afraid to say Jake that most of your ideas have been suggested several times before and they act like they care but nothing ever happens.

No, they try and sometimes it's hard, but some of Jake's ideas are also new. I think it's also a big advantage that he posted them in a very intelligent way and the discussion has been on the whole very constructive and positive *cough*. I've made many posts about my opinion on how to make feedback effectively, and Jake is a great example of someone who knows how to do it (the only issue is that sometimes he blatantly chooses not to do it that way )

I don't think feedback is ever ignored without reason. Call me naive. Maybe I am. Some of these ideas are fresh. Some aren't. The ones that aren't may have been considered before but weren't relevant at the time. Now it has been acknowledged there has been a slump maybe it is worth giving some of these ideas a go. Maybe it isn't. Management do want what is best for the forum. So do we.

1) You put it perfectly
2) Someone's seen the light Or you saw the light before and chose not to mention it.

Anyone who thinks that management wants Habbox to be bad needs a checkup. They obviously took the position and want to improve the site. Many might even argue power trip, but even those on a power trip want to be remembered for making things great. That said, I think that the last thing you can accuse Matthew of is going on a power trip.

[immense]

They do have that in mind, there was a post in the management forum only a week or so back over what they class as 'Feedback bullying' which sounds basically to me as something that can cover anything that is critical of themselves/habbox staff or management in general. This of course is a term so generalising that it could mean anything critical of management can be classed as bullying.

In other words, they are looking for ways to close threads because they are above criticism you see.

If it is constructive it won't be closed. I agree in the past, they should have listened to the users more. If this thread gets ignored when 3 / 4 General Management and Forum Manager have said it has some good ideas then maybe I too will become a critic. However, perhaps part of the problem is people moaning too much and amplifying the issues into full blown problems and forecasting the end of Habbox.

Indeed but when they make idiotic decisions then there is hardly any hope for improvement. I am sure Richie or someone suggested that the site is being neglected a few months ago. They got the same v6 excuse. Bloody hell, give the GM power. So what is Jin is owner? He was hardly on this summer and due to that Habbox suffered. It would have been better to give the GM enough power and to trust him with a site design etc.

I go on Habbo and people don't seem to like Habbox. They don't even know who the management are. For example me and Garion went in rooms shouting Habbox and hardly anyone knew who the hell he was. This is backed up by the fact hardly anyone knew him on CHF.

Management hardly post on the forum :S so they are fully dead on Habbo.

Would be nice if they acted on the advice as you have clearly taken time to write it, but I can just see them replying agreeing etc but nothing will happen. Its the same thing everytime...

I agree, there has to be more power given to those senior figureheads who are online daily. However, one extra person that has the access Jin has make a severe attack on Habbox 100% more likely. Like I said above. I agree there have been some fantastic feedback threads, general management have agreed and then nothing has come of it. If this goes the same way considering the backing it has received then yeah it would have been a waste of time. At least though, I would know I have tried to help a site that has been a part of my life the past four years. The alternative is to watch it sink. There is only so much people like myself and you can do. We can propose ideas. We can't enforce them or make people enforce them. Perhaps if we could things would be better. However, that isn't going to happen so there is no point in even discussing it. If General Management don't make changes they don't have the interests of Habbox at heart and should tender their resignation.

Edit; nvr, when you get given a tag you act accordingly. Part of the reason why people should be unbanned and given a fresh start. We are all (vast majority) teenagers and grow up at astonishing rates. I can be serious when I want to be. That isn't often though. Immaturity is one of the most underrated things.

[GommeInc]

Making a note on merging HabboxLive and Habbox together - BBC have all their BBC Radios accessible from BBC.co.uk and seeing as the BBC have quite a large website it should be perfectly fine for Habbox to have the radio on-site. Afterall, HxL is the front runner in terms of getting people onto Habbox so merging both together will do them both some good. The Radio can just say "Go to Habbox.com" and Habbox gets some extra attention. Best for both of them. The arguments against it don't really exist,as HxL is hardly "large" and "Hx" won't take over unless you have done something to the website that makes the radio re-load when you load a page (or just use a pop-up, though that's a bit lazy and untidy).