Labour: White boys underachievement linked to mass migration

[Ardemax]

We're not talking about the Daily Mail nor has it been posted or quoted in this thread.

Had too much to drink tonight?

I have but I really like that photo

[Kardan]

Well if it's the Daily Mail we're talking about... I'll just leave this here.

And they don't know the difference between 1st and 3rd either, as seen on the 'England is densely populated' thread

[karter]

Yeah except you haven't been able to ever quote me being racist so you lose. Again.

I have actually, repeatedly, but you're delusional and that's your problem not mine

[GommeInc]

let me knock a few gems of your white crown and tell you why racism against "white people" does not exist.

Did I read that wrong or did you really just say white people cannot be the subject of racial abuse? :S

[karter]

Did I read that wrong or did you really just say white people cannot be the subject of racial abuse? :S

You read what was writtten

If you term all hate crimes as 'racism' then sure whatever suits your dictionary terms

[Inseriousity.]

Disagree entirely on this. I've actually wrote an essay on this for university!

The article seems to heavily suggest that we aren't training white British boys for the workplace and that the influx of immigrants from eastern europe and other countries are taking the jobs they would usually occupy. There's a possible argument here - the theory of anti-school subcultures relies heavily on working class finding working class employment. That doesn't explain underachievement at school of this group though, that would just suggest that post-education, this group is most likely to be NEETs. I would say that the causes are more domestically based: anti-school subculture and how academia is seen as uncool, the lack of patience in a system that is more about long-term rewards than short-term gains, the delboys/alan sugars/richard branson who all "left school with no qualifications but are now super rich" so it doesn't matter if I fail now cos that'll be me in 30 years.

[GommeInc]

You read what was writtten

If you term all hate crimes as 'racism' then sure whatever suits your dictionary terms

Never said that and it's not just dictionary but common sense and logic defining it too. You're discriminating against individuals in society who are white by saying they cannot be victims of race crimes. Do you know what people are labelled when they discriminate against others? Usually racist. So you've sat yourself into a comfy, deep hole with this strange and clearly ignorant belief.

Racism, depending on the jurisdiction, is a type of hate crime, not vice versa. Race can be, but is not limited to: colour and nationality. Other hate crimes include but, again, not limited to: religion, sexuality and even the mundane such as hair colour (e.g. ginger hair) because it is targeting an individual for a difference or a specific thing in their characteristics (I say specific because you can get self-loathing people who hate their own kind for the "good" of other kinds).

In the UK, white (Caucasian) individuals who are targeted by individuals of the same or different colour of skin are victims of racial abuse if the victim is being targeted for being white, British etc etc. In India, if a man or woman who is white is attacked for being white or "British" they are the victim of a racially motivated hate crime. Ergo, white people can be the subjects of racial abuse. This whole white supremacist argument you have that white people cannot be the victims of racial abuse because they 'invented' racism is, in some ways, racist. You are saying white victims cannot be victims of racial abuse because of the colour of their skin, when clearly they are if they are physically, verbally or psychologically harmed for the colour of their skin or nationality.

[FlyingJesus]

Yes but Ryan you are dealing with someone who doesn't believe in the dictionary or the law because they were written by white men, and instead chooses to adopt definitions from angry illiterates who are devoid of logic or reasoning past BUT YOUR GREAT GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER MIGHT HAVE TOUCHED MINE IN A BAD WAY IF HE WAS POSSIBLY PART OF THE 1% BACK THEN

[Vodafone]

let me knock a few gems of your white crown and tell you why racism against "white people" does not exist. do not break open this post while replying, if you wanna reply read the whole thing first.

Excuse me? Wow I didn't know you were such a bigot.