[Call of Duty 4, World at War and Modern Warfare 2]

[PaulMacC]

Owow, I've heard that there is going to be upgradeable perks.
I can imagine it now
Frag x3 > Frag x6
Martydom > Poop a Nuke

[J0SH]

Where'd you hear that?

Also is anyone going to buy the MW2 controllers, I might buy a few just because of the grip and the added buttons, that'll come in very handy.

I used to have grip things for the controller and cap sticks for the analogs but they've worn off and I'm really bad at CoD now.. So I got used to them and they did help. :P

[dbgtz]

Im gonna buy one if I get my own ps3, so I can have an extra controller.


Owow, I've heard that there is going to be upgradeable perks.
I can imagine it now
Frag x3 > Frag x6
Martydom > Poop a Nuke

Bomb Squad > Boom raider. Bombs get blown when you get near.
Juggernaut > Juggerfail. An upgraded perk which makes you weaker, just to p you off!
Double tap > triple tap
Camoflauge > B1AtEch-115 Camo suit. You can go invisible on screen for 15 seconds at a time, with 30 seconds recharge.

That would be awesome. Especially the juggenoob one and then they all find out they die easier, haha.

[PaulMacC]

No Im not, if you want to improve your game you'd be better investing in something worthwhile for a cheaper price.
ControlFreakz FPS Freak Stick Grips - £10 - http://www.limexb360.co.uk/
Turtle Beach X1 - £50 - http://www.limexb360.co.uk/

I have a Turtle Beach X1 and they are superb for hearing footsteps and stuff although Im upgrading to Astro A40's which are £250 just because of the wireless, 5.1 dolby digital and the ability to hear people who have dead silence.

[J0SH]

I've already got x1s. They seem a nice controller too so I'm going to get them I reckon.

I used these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZt-_QnrDz8&feature=channel_page

They were great for the analogs, much better to grip :P

[dbgtz]

My surround sound is fine for me :P

[Oleh]

(http://img391.imageshack.us/i/29082009151.jpg/)http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/2562/29082009151.jpg (http://img391.imageshack.us/i/29082009151.jpg/)

[J0SH]

Not a bad score, far too many deaths and hardcore doesn't really show skill :(

[Favourtism]

Where'd you hear that?

Also is anyone going to buy the MW2 controllers, I might buy a few just because of the grip and the added buttons, that'll come in very handy.

I used to have grip things for the controller and cap sticks for the analogs but they've worn off and I'm really bad at CoD now.. So I got used to them and they did help. :P
from 402

And **** buying those ****** controllers. They are madcatz meaning they break extremely easily + 40.00 a pop for a wired controller is crazy.

No Im not, if you want to improve your game you'd be better investing in something worthwhile for a cheaper price.
ControlFreakz FPS Freak Stick Grips - £10 - http://www.limexb360.co.uk/
Turtle Beach X1 - £50 - http://www.limexb360.co.uk/

I have a Turtle Beach X1 and they are superb for hearing footsteps and stuff although Im upgrading to Astro A40's which are £250 just because of the wireless, 5.1 dolby digital and the ability to hear people who have dead silence.
You can really tell the difference between X1's and X4's, I reccomend getting them if you wanna save cash from the astros.

lol@akimbo- new perk so you can have dual deagles

[J0SH]

I hope MW2 system is similar to the PC version of CoD4, so that you don't always need stopping power for 1 hit sniper kills etc.

What's 402?

[PaulMacC]

from 402

And **** buying those ****** controllers. They are madcatz meaning they break extremely easily + 40.00 a pop for a wired controller is crazy.

You can really tell the difference between X1's and X4's, I reccomend getting them if you wanna save cash from the astros.

lol@akimbo- new perk so you can have dual deagles
I've used X4's before. There was a difference but I dont intend on buying another Turtle Beach product again. They break so easily. I'd rather get Astro's as they give you a 1 year guarantee if it breaks

[5,5]

I've used X4's before. There was a difference but I dont intend on buying another Turtle Beach product again. They break so easily. I'd rather get Astro's as they give you a 1 year guarantee if it breaks
I would never buy a headset thats about the same price as the console.

And hackney, 402 works at infinity ward.

[J0SH]

I would never buy a headset thats about the same price as the console.

And hackney, 402 works at infinity ward.

His parents are buying him A40's for his results, and because there's nothing else he wants he's just asking for the headset.

[Oleh]

Not a bad score, far too many deaths and hardcore doesn't really show skill :(

about 6-7 deaths were down to team mates being divs and getting in my way

[Favourtism]

402 is the IW community manager lol

www.twitter.com/fourzerotwo

new mp footage tues

[5,5]

His parents are buying him A40's for his results, and because there's nothing else he wants he's just asking for the headset.
doesent mean theyre not overpriced?

[PaulMacC]

doesent mean theyre not overpriced?
Depends on what you class as overpriced.
Im not ordering them for another 2-3 weeks anyway cause my dad's credit card needs to be topped up :P

[5,5]

Depends on what you class as overpriced.
Im not ordering them for another 2-3 weeks anyway cause my dad's credit card needs to be topped up :P
Well surely you could just buy a nice surround sound system for your room for that price? Than just use a stock xbox mic or a wireless one or the tb you already have. Than you can use it for movies too.

[J0SH]

Well surely you could just buy a nice surround sound system for your room for that price? Than just use a stock xbox mic or a wireless one or the tb you already have. Than you can use it for movies too.

Either way if he's going to watch a movie on his Xbox the headset will be hooked up, and the fact the sound is going straight in your ears is better.

[5,5]

Either way if he's going to watch a movie on his Xbox the headset will be hooked up, and the fact the sound is going straight in your ears is better.
Eh theres more pros to surround sound.
Such as:
-not looking dumb (huge thing on your head)
-being able to watch movies when/if you have friends over
-being able to hear other people/talk to other people

[J0SH]

Yeah but he wants the headset so there's no point trying to convince him to get surround sound instead :)

[5,5]

Yeah but he wants the headset so there's no point trying to convince him to get surround sound instead :)
Im not trying to convince anyone just stating what I would get and what I think is the better choice.

[J0SH]

But you're stating the pros and cons, seems like you're convincing him to me.

[5,5]

But you're stating the pros and cons, seems like you're convincing him to me.
No Im stating the pros and cons to show why I would choose a surround sound system.

[J0SH]

Fair enough, but there's pros and no cons as to why he wants a headset though. ;)

[PaulMacC]

5.1 Stereo Surround Headset > 5.1 Stereo Surround Speaker System
Believe me, I've used our home entertainment system downstairs for playing CoD4 and my turtle beaches are so much better

[Oleh]

I was getting some TB x3's at the start of july, ordered from 3 places so far and all have had false stock reports, seems like ill be going for the Modern warfare 2 Throat Communicator £18 off play.com or i could go with the TB x31's coming out in november

[J0SH]

I was getting some TB x3's at the start of july, ordered from 3 places so far and all have had false stock reports, seems like ill be going for the Modern warfare 2 Throat Communicator £18 off play.com or i could go with the TB x31's coming out in november

You can always try eBay, I know someone would've used and sweated on them etc but you can just give it a good clean with some wet wipes :P

[Oleh]

I think ima just go with throat communicator get some tb x41's sometime next year

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3254/30082009153.jpg (http://img195.imageshack.us/i/30082009153.jpg/)

[PaulMacC]

I wouldnt advise getting TB4.1
7.1 Dolby Digital hasnt even been mastered wired yet nevermind wireless so no doubt they'll be a huge flop. Plus most games only support 5.1 Dolby Digital.

[dbgtz]

Akimbo perk looks useful. Dual wielded weapons, nice. Funny how it was accidental

[Fez]

Akimbo perk looks useful. Dual wielded weapons, nice. Funny how it was accidental
I don't see how it's useful.

[dbgtz]

Cuts down in reload time in a way? You can shoot more at once. Tbh it is pretty useless but dual deagles will look awesome xD

[dbgtz]

Anyone else get it on nazi zombies where the game reloads and youre in a position with a grey screen then your whole system muffs. I learnt today I could leave so I didn't need to restart :D But its annoying as hell when youre atlike lvl 20.

Also I know mw2 aint out but what are treyarch (assuming they are) doing for the next one?

[Fez]

Yeah, some technical guy said in some interview "We're working on steady projects such as the next Bond game and the next Call of Duty."

[Fez]

New multiplayer footage released, looks wicked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4PMRFkx07g

Watch until the end, MAJOR change there.

[-WooTWooTWooT-]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4PMRFkx07g

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[CJW93]

**** YEAH!

[Jord]

Oh? Looks quite cool hmm throwing knifes :x

[Jordy]

Good but this video doesn't really demonstrate anything new. It shows it's consistent with the COD4 Multiplayer Gameplay which is a good thing but it's just different guns and environments.

Don't get me wrong I'm excited by it but this video really isn't anything special other than the gimmick of throwing a knife.

[-WooTWooTWooT-]

na, no riot shields, air strikes, throwing knives, kill feed, host migration.

[ItsDave]

The shield is new. He was carrying a riot shield whilst moving, also if you get shot, the blood splatters on screen alot better and generally looks impressive along with new weapons and throwing knives. Good find +REP

[Oleh]

The new killstreak specials sound cool predator missile :) nice

[dbgtz]

Awesome vid. Funny at all the people who thought they commented first. 2 pages of comments then the rest are FIRST, FIRST, first init, OMGZ FIRST!
Love the map.

I am questioning the customizable killstreaks though, couldn't it all get a bit ott? Unless theyres still some sort of limits on how many killstreaks you have at once and how many can be used in a game at once.

[dbgtz]

yes! Didnt xbox already have host migration thing? Anyway lol @ knife.

JUST REALISED. Whats with the bar at the bottom? A progression bar maybe?

[-WooTWooTWooT-]

yes! Didnt xbox already have host migration thing? Anyway lol @ knife.

JUST REALISED. Whats with the bar at the bottom? A progression bar maybe?
its the same as in cod 4...? :S

[dbgtz]

Ive never seen it?

[PaulMacC]

I still have my doubts on this game. The only thing I enjoyed was seeing a return from the best pistol in COD4, the USP .45. I also enjoyed seeing the .50 Cal at the end. The killstreaks things annoy me, annoy who has had any experience with PC FPS' know that UAV is way too good to be given away for a 3 KS. They give you another reward at 4KS and 5KS Im judging it's for every kill. Appealing to noobs, I just hope IW dont sell out even more.
I have high hopes.

[-WooTWooTWooT-]

no it isnt. it goes 3.5.7 or 11 and you can choose which ones.

[dbgtz]

I think theyll be a limit of 3 to a game and you choose before the game starts and youll get like, UAV, Airstrike and Helicopter default.

And to last post, have you not seen mp trailer? Not the AC130 one the one released afew hours back. He gets like UAV, something and a preditor missle in a row (shame he doesnt use them).
You must have seen it you posted the thread.

[PaulMacC]

no it isnt. it goes 3.5.7 or 11 and you can choose which ones.
You clearly didnt watch the trailer close enough. He gets 3 kills and the top says UAV Recon, Gets another, it says something about a missle drop, He gets another and gets air support.

[Oleh]

maybe they will be countered, like they will be easy to get, but will suck?

[dbgtz]

Guess we have to wait till its out.
Wish it was out on a Friday.

[-WooTWooTWooT-]

You clearly didnt watch the trailer close enough. He gets 3 kills and the top says UAV Recon, Gets another, it says something about a missle drop, He gets another and gets air support.
i was right-ish, he chose to get his when he gets 3,4, and 5kill streak, you can choose three. the more kills you get the better the thingy. so you can choose 3, 7 11 or summet if ya get me blad

[PaulMacC]

i was right-ish, he chose to get his when he gets 3,4, and 5kill streak, you can choose three. the more kills you get the better the thingy. so you can choose 3, 7 11 or summet if ya get me blad
Hasnt been confirmed yet, you made it up.

[kre8ive]

Sorry if this is seen as spam but could you all view this thread - http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=602591 it regards a Call of Duty custom games website, just need feedback.

I'm an elite @ Call of Duty Modern Warfare.

Jugganaut ftw!

[kre8ive]

Sorry, but I was ordering MW2 on Game and I found some really cool screenshots and thought hmm, seeing as there's some keen-koders (Like how I did that there eh?) I'd post them so here they are.

http://img.game.co.uk/ml/3/3/9/8/339837ss1_502w.jpg
http://img.game.co.uk/ml/3/3/9/8/339837ss2_502w.jpg
http://img.game.co.uk/ml/3/3/9/8/339837ss3_502w.jpg
http://img.game.co.uk/ml/3/3/9/8/339837ss4_502w.jpg
http://img.game.co.uk/ml/3/3/9/8/339837ss5_502w.jpg
http://img.game.co.uk/ml/3/3/9/8/339837ss6_502w.jpg
http://img.game.co.uk/ml/3/3/9/8/339837ss7_502w.jpg

imo, picture of the day is;

http://img.game.co.uk/ml/3/3/9/8/339837tn8.jpg

if they're the graphics, then OMG are we in for one heck of a good game.

Thread merged by iAdam (Forum Moderator); Please post anything to do with the call of duty series in this thread.

[J0SH]

We've already seen all of these mate.

[PaulMacC]

Sorry if this is seen as spam but could you all view this thread - http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=602591 it regards a Call of Duty custom games website, just need feedback.

I'm an elite @ Call of Duty Modern Warfare.

Jugganaut ftw!
Im the best at Call of Duty 4 / WaW pubs :P

[Ontario]

Nice +rep

[Ashley 12344]

Just hope they haven't took away the charm of MW.

[Jibbish]

Just hope they haven't took away the charm of MW.
well they have dual sidearms, riot sheilds, air drops, ac130s, double attatchments.

[kk.]

they more than likely are rendered screenshots, so yeh, not actual graphics

[CJW93]

I think I saw elsewhere that Mw2 has some maps from call of duty 4? I may be sadly mistaken. I can't remember the site though. Anybody know the answer to it?

[StefanWolves]

cant wait for mw2, waiting for it to come out and then im gonna renew my xbl.

[Pixet]

Pre-Ordered MW2 but I can't help think that it will have a hint of Army of Two in it. I also hope it still feels like Call Of Duty.

[Fez]

Pre-Ordered MW2 but I can't help think that it will have a hint of Army of Two in it.

What you mean bro'?

If you're thinking about the Spec Ops two player mode, then... no! I think it'll be a set of challenges maybe in the style of Nazi Zombies.

But without the Nazis or Zombies.

[!.x.FaYe.x.!]

I actually cried a little when I saw the trailer for MW2 :') looks sickkkkkkkkkkk

[dbgtz]

Is spec ops timed or like zombies with scoring? If they say its like the mile high club then I assume it's timed rather then scored but i dunno, I get confused.

[CJW93]

Im 16 but they always i.d me for buying games aged 15+ :( Can I be 16 and pre order it as i am going tomorrow?

[Dusty-09]

MW2 online gameplay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UXrydp6lj4

Sorry if its been posted

Love it, you can throw knives and its just awesome

[dbgtz]

New reveal thing tomorrow.
From Robert Bowlings twitter:
Landed in Los Angeles. 48 hrs w/ no sleep & no time to rest now. Our big multiplayer reveal event is tommorrow. Rehersals today. Can't wait!

[Dusty-09]

New reveal thing tomorrow.
From Robert Bowlings twitter:
Landed in Los Angeles. 48 hrs w/ no sleep & no time to rest now. Our big multiplayer reveal event is tommorrow. Rehersals today. Can't wait!
Sounds kl

I reckon modern warfare is gna be amazing, like modern warfare 1 combined with ownage powder and some weed which makes modern warfare 2!!

[Favourtism]

New reveal thing tomorrow.
From Robert Bowlings twitter:
Landed in Los Angeles. 48 hrs w/ no sleep & no time to rest now. Our big multiplayer reveal event is tommorrow. Rehersals today. Can't wait!
It's at a special private screening though lol

[PaulMacC]

Ordering a pair of Tritton 5.1 Dolby Digital Gaming Headphones next week. Im going to wait until Christmas to get Astro A40's seeing as I'd rather save myself £100 and get Trittons as people say their new model AXPro's are just as good.

[PaulMacC]

For all you people buying Prestige Edition.
You'll all be happy to know that the night vision goggles will be top-notch quality...
...like every other kid's toy made in China.


http://www.mw2blog.com/leaked-modern-warfare-2-night-vision-goggle-pictures/

Edit - MW2 BETA confirmed - 7 Kill Streak is Attack Helicopter -(http://www.fpsadmin.com/gallery/main.php/v/2009-09-15__by_Eye-Fi_/)

[Jord]

Ew man.. Slight of hand for perk 1..

[Jord]

Oh and the beta is privet only, So that sucks


No point even telling us CoD Fans that there is a beta :(

[PaulMacC]

The BETA hasnt been confirmed to be private, yesterday that was the unveiling of the BETA. There was a lot of new information leaked.

Perk 1 Confirmed - Sleight of Hand, Scavenger
Perk 2 Confirmed - Stopping Power, Bling (Dual Wielded SMGs)
Perk 3 Confirmed - Melee Man (Extended Melee), Marathon (Basically Extreme Conditioning)

Secondary weapons can now also be rocket launchers, shotguns, pistols.
3 maps confirmed, forgotten the names though.
Killstreaks confirmed.
Deathstreaks confirmed (Get killed 4 times by the same enemy and you can spawn out the same perk setup)

Im impressed a bit but i feel the noobs will ruin this game with things like the FAMAS (M16 of MW2) and other nooby perks.
Sleight of Hand in Perk 1 is a bit iffy

Anyone who didnt see the footage from yesterday - http://www.gametrailers.com/game/modern-warfare-2/11043

More stuff I had in my notepad file while watching the convo live, it includes some direct twitter c&p

Held in LA
Limited edition Modern Warfare 2 Xbox 360 announced. Coming in November, 250 GB HDD, 2 controllers and a copy of the game.
Iw talking about killstreak rewards for MW2. 4 kills gets you the care package, allows helicopter to drop ammo and health for you.
5 kills – predator missile, 7 kills – attack helicopter and more.
Tactical insertion equipment let’s you throw down a mark where you will respawn.
Perks including Scavenger (resupply from dead enemy), Hardline (killstreak for 1 less kill). And Death Streak – Copycat, steal class.
And now we play! 3 maps here http://yfrog.com/0a1h3j
Playing Afghan map, groundwar. Team deathmatch. This is the downed plane in the trailer.
Next map is Favela, playing Domination. This looks like a map in Brazil.
AT4 Rocker Launcher takes up Pistol Slot

Anyone wanting more indepth info - http://weplaycod.5forum.net/news-f15/mw2-multiplayer-event-info-media-collection-9-15-t266.htm

[Jahova]

Sleight of hand perk 1 FTW

[PaulMacC]

Sleight of hand perk 1 FTW
Nope, it'll make this game bad.

[dbgtz]

I think the deathstreaks sounds ridiculous.
Who will buy that xbox tbh. Frankly imo 250gb is too much and plus, all who want an xbox would surely have one already? "Hardcore" gamers I guess.
Tbh if sony made skins for the playstation they could make loads xD.

[Jewbacca]

There's loads of videos here.

http://www.mw2blog.com/modern-warfare-2-multiplayer-reveal-event-domination-video/

Sleight of Hand will be good I reckon, Juggernaut and Sleight of Hand with a shotgun, that's awesome.

I just hope they fix the system so you don't always need stopping power to kill with a sniper etc, from a few videos on that link above this guy doesn't even have Stopping Power on and it still seems a bit decent.

I might buy myself one of the Limited Edition MW2 Xbox's too, the bonus HDD space will last.

[dbgtz]

http://www.vg247.com/2009/09/16/modern-warfare-2-two-new-multiplayer-maps-in-video/

[Favourtism]

Perk 1 also has Bling (dual attachments) and run faster etc paul
http://www.fpsadmin.com/gallery/main.php/v/2009-09-15+IW+CoD+MW2+event/IMG_0189.JPG.html

[Jord]

That heli on like cam 4 Better be a prop.. If you can get in it >.>

And wow the missile on 5 k/s who came up with that? Holding the thing for like 5 seconds to kill it in Imagen If it was snd you would be dead


WOW Another thing, I can tell this game is going to be bad..

Stopping power + Slight of hand? :S

And "Slight of hand >>> "UNLOCKED" SLight of hand PRO"

WTH :S

[Favourtism]

That heli on like cam 4 Better be a prop.. If you can get in it >.>

And wow the missile on 5 k/s who came up with that? Holding the thing for like 5 seconds to kill it in Imagen If it was snd you would be dead


WOW Another thing, I can tell this game is going to be bad..

Stopping power + Slight of hand? :S

And "Slight of hand >>> "UNLOCKED" SLight of hand PRO"

WTH :S

Either your thick or havent read. Each perk can be upgraded to a pro version after 1000 kills with it. We don't know how the pro will be upgraded in terms of features though.

No one will use sp and slight of hand when theres dual attachments etc on offer.

[dbgtz]

Slight of hand would probably just be quicker.

[Favourtism]

"Each perk has a “Pro” level that is unlocked by completing perk-specific challenges. During my playtime, I was able to unlock the pro version of the aforementioned “Hard Line” perk. Instead of making killstreaks kick in at two less kills, it actually makes your deathstreaks go off one death earlier. I’m told that the other pro perks will be similarly different. They’ll be related to the vanilla perk, but not just a straight increase of power."

[PaulMacC]

I'd imagine Stopping Power Pro would be kill in two bullets less.

My set-up still isn't changing
Bandolier/Sleight of Hand
Stopping Power
Dead Silence/Steady Aim

[Favourtism]

I'd imagine Stopping Power Pro would be kill in two bullets less.

My set-up still isn't changing
Bandolier/Sleight of Hand
Stopping Power
Dead Silence/Steady Aim
It will make explosives more powerful instead, read my post above

[Jord]

Is there claymores?

[PaulMacC]

It will make explosives more powerful instead, read my post above
Why will Stopping Power make explosives more powerful when the use of the perk is to down an enemy in 1 less bullet.
Juggernaut has the opposite effect, survive 1 more bullet.

[Jord]

I'd imagine Stopping Power Pro would be kill in two bullets less.

My set-up still isn't changing
Bandolier/Sleight of Hand
Stopping Power
Dead Silence/Steady Aim


Same, I never use slight of hand tho


Maybe claymores for first perk depends what the game is like,

And Stopping power pro Imo will be will be something like survive 1 extra bullet


But In the pics, theres only 4 or 5 stuff in perk 1 :S

Slight of hand in perk 1 :S And bind or something bing is like pick up extra ammo from any gun

[Favourtism]

No, that's scavenger. Bling is 2 attachments.

Claymores arent confirmed btw. And Paul, it will be something like that because stopping power improves bullet power, so pro will also increase explosive power. Look at the quote from IW Staff, it doesnt power it up directly, it adds another effect to it

[Dusty-09]

Perks are not bad - IMO this is awesome, shame PS3 isn't as friendly with Activision/Infinity Ward :(

[PaulMacC]

No, that's scavenger. Bling is 2 attachments.

Claymores arent confirmed btw. And Paul, it will be something like that because stopping power improves bullet power, so pro will also increase explosive power. Look at the quote from IW Staff, it doesnt power it up directly, it adds another effect to it
Sonic Boom will return, no doubt.

[Favourtism]

Sonic Boom will return, no doubt.
No one will use sonic boom over cold blood (blocks you from jammers, thermals such as ac-130 and rockets, heartbeart sensor) or stopping power etc, which leads me to think it won't be in.

Juggernaut Pro will be defensive bonuses against killstreaks or explosives (maybe both) and so will SP pro imo

[dbgtz]

Perks are not bad - IMO this is awesome, shame PS3 isn't as friendly with Activision/Infinity Ward :(

I think it is more activision then Infinity ward.
Funny thing is IF are friends with naughty dog - who make lots of PS games. And Robert Bowling also likes hideo kojima who is a bit of a PS fan too (I think).

http://bit.ly/O7z2j (http://bit.ly/O7z2j) - Talking with @bradshoemaker (http://twitter.com/bradshoemaker) from @giantbomb (http://twitter.com/giantbomb) about #MW2 (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23MW2) - Suppressed Sniper, Tactical Insertion, Throwing Knives + more
Suppressed snipers? Click the bit.ly link and find out.

[PaulMacC]

The heartbeat sensor, thermal scope really worry me. In games like CounterStrike you depend on things such as a sound and the location of your whole enemy team is at your disposal with just an attachment :/

[Favourtism]

The heartbeat sensor, thermal scope really worry me. In games like CounterStrike you depend on things such as a sound and the location of your whole enemy team is at your disposal with just an attachment :/
Yeah, it renders TB's pointless. I'm gunna have to always use cold blooded

[Dusty-09]

I think it is more activision then Infinity ward.
Funny thing is IF are friends with naughty dog - who make lots of PS games. And Robert Bowling also likes hideo kojima who is a bit of a PS fan too (I think).

http://bit.ly/O7z2j (http://bit.ly/O7z2j) - Talking with @bradshoemaker (http://twitter.com/bradshoemaker) from @giantbomb (http://twitter.com/giantbomb) about #MW2 (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23MW2) - Suppressed Sniper, Tactical Insertion, Throwing Knives + more
Suppressed snipers? Click the bit.ly link and find out.

I think Xbox know where the sales are coming from so probably a big investment deal seeing as microsoft has billions in the bank, its all to win over move ps3 users/ wii users. But none the less, this is a smart move by Xbox :)

[Black_Apalachi]

After reading the first few pages of this thread - can the MW2 BETA still be accessed by pre-ordering from GAME? Does XP gained on BETA carry through to when you buy the actual game?

Also, does anyone know if two people can play online on the same console?

[Favourtism]

After reading the first few pages of this thread - can the MW2 BETA still be accessed by pre-ordering from GAME? Does XP gained on BETA carry through to when you buy the actual game?

Also, does anyone know if two people can play online on the same console?
1) Confirmed no beta at all
2) There's no beta
3) No one does but it's suggested as a no

[Black_Apalachi]

Oh was I mixing up a different CoD game? Thanks :eusa_ange

[PaulMacC]

There is a BETA, they just showed a private one at the LA conference yesterday?
The question is will they release it to the public. I hope they just release it all at once and not to people who only bought prestige or like WaW did. Just release it all at once to everyone.

[Gangster]

402 confirmed there'll be no public beta in this interview
http://www.modernwarfare247.com/news/multiplayer-interview-by-giant-bomb

[Favourtism]

There is a BETA, they just showed a private one at the LA conference yesterday?
The question is will they release it to the public. I hope they just release it all at once and not to people who only bought prestige or like WaW did. Just release it all at once to everyone.
EVERY game has a BETA, I mean't public :P He was asking when a public one was being released, hence me saying there isn't one to save explanation and un-necessary explanation over private BETA's.

They won't release a public one, every single lead/president at IW/Activision are now saying this plus Robert Bowling. There are hints at a level demo closer to release though (Source; Vince Vampella Interview).

[Jord]

There is a BETA, they just showed a private one at the LA conference yesterday?
The question is will they release it to the public. I hope they just release it all at once and not to people who only bought prestige or like WaW did. Just release it all at once to everyone.


No public beta, Because its to late for one now.

[Robbinz]

Who wants to play Der Riese zombies in about 30mins add me on xbl IRobbinz x

[dbgtz]

Its not really late for a BETA, uncharted 2 is in one now 1 month prior.

[Favourtism]

No public beta, Because its to late for one now.

THEYVE DENIED IT LOL

For the fifth time in this thread

[Jord]

THEYVE DENIED IT LOL

For the fifth time in this thread



Sherlock holems has entered the building!




New der riese level 26.

[Fez]

Its not really late for a BETA, uncharted 2 is in one now 1 month prior.

The real Uncharted 2 Beta was in June. They took the feedback and then made Beta 2.0, which might as well be the 'Multiplayer Demo'.

COD is different because it needs a sign before hand that there'll be a BETA.

COD:WAW beta was in September, but was announced in August. I might actually dare say there's still a chance for one.

[Gangster]

The real Uncharted 2 Beta was in June. They took the feedback and then made Beta 2.0, which might as well be the 'Multiplayer Demo'.

COD is different because it needs a sign before hand that there'll be a BETA.

COD:WAW beta was in September, but was announced in August. I might actually dare say there's still a chance for one.
402 confirmed that there wasn't going to be one.

[PaulMacC]

PUBLIC BETA UP ON XBL MARKETPLACE NOW.
QUICK


joking.

[Fez]

402 confirmed that there wasn't going to be one.

He's just the community manager, he knows as much about MW2 as Gordon Brown does about economics.

[dbgtz]

Yes but hes the "face of infinity ward", basically he says everything thats confirmed so yer.

[Gangster]

He's just the community manager, he knows as much about MW2 as Gordon Brown does about economics.


You idiot. Obviously the people that make the decisions tell him that there's gonna be no beta. He doesn't just assume there is.

[ItsDave]

The BETA hasnt been confirmed to be private, yesterday that was the unveiling of the BETA. There was a lot of new information leaked.

Perk 1 Confirmed - Sleight of Hand, Scavenger
Perk 2 Confirmed - Stopping Power, Bling (Dual Wielded SMGs)
Perk 3 Confirmed - Melee Man (Extended Melee), Marathon (Basically Extreme Conditioning)



Yes, it has been confirmed as a private only Beta between people from Activision and Infinty Ward.

Also, the Perk "Bling" isn't duel wielding SMG's, its two attatchments on one gun ;)

[Favourtism]

He's just the community manager, he knows as much about MW2 as Gordon Brown does about economics.



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[Gangster]

Death Streaks seem kinda cool. What does Painkiller do though?

[Middlesbrough]

Yes, it has been confirmed as a private only Beta between people from Activision and Infinty Ward.

Also, the Perk "Bling" isn't duel wielding SMG's, its two attatchments on one gun ;)

Just a note, it's not just infinity ward and Activision staff doing it - Mapmonkeys(Pro glitchers) and The selected few normal people are doing it.


Death Streaks seem kinda cool. What does Painkiller do though?

Its like a better version of juggernaut for 5minutes into the game.

[Gangster]

Its like a better version of juggernaut for 5minutes into the game.
Oh yeah, so you can't get spawn killed init.

One thing I have to say is IW did a good job. They didn't just make MW2 like COD4 but with new maps and a patch. It looks totally different and better.

Can have shotguns as side arm aswell :D. And that thing that you throw to choose where you spawn will be good for dom.

[Callum.]

is there anymore news on a public beta?

i've seen his post on fourzerotwo and have seen a few videos on youtube which I'm guessing are selected testers, but has anything else been released.

[Gangster]

is there anymore news on a public beta?

i've seen his post on fourzerotwo and have seen a few videos on youtube which I'm guessing are selected testers, but has anything else been released.
Nope, only IW/Activision and a couple of other groups/companies will have access to the beta.

Also, gonna be hard to glitch on MW2 Quoted from fourzerotwo
... like mapMonkeys. We had them come in last week and gave them the game and literally said, go to town, break our game

If you don't know who mapMonkeys are, thery're pro glitchers and have been glitching since CoD2

[Favourtism]

Just a note, it's not just infinity ward and Activision staff doing it - Mapmonkeys(Pro glitchers) and The selected few normal people are doing it.



Its like a better version of juggernaut for 5minutes into the game.
No it's not. It's for 10 seconds.

[Gangster]

No it's not. It's for 10 seconds.
Haha. Why you always so rude?

[Callum.]

Nope, only IW/Activision and a couple of other groups/companies will have access to the beta.

Also, gonna be hard to glitch on MW2 Quoted from fourzerotwo

If you don't know who mapMonkeys are, thery're pro glitchers and have been glitching since CoD2

thanks for that. is that a nope at the public beta, or a nope at there's not been anymore news?

there wasn't many glitches in cod4 that gained much advantage. atleast it won't have the "roundhouse" phase where you just didn't want to play in the end, knowing someone would be under the map.#

edit: just read it again, I doubt there will be. like they've said, they have taken the game apart and rebuilt the one they wanted so it's not going to be any normal call of duty.

[Gangster]

thanks for that. is that a nope at the public beta, or a nope at there's not been anymore news?

there wasn't many glitches in cod4 that gained much advantage. atleast it won't have the "roundhouse" phase where you just didn't want to play in the end, knowing someone would be under the map.
Nope no public beta. Which i think is better, so you get mor3e excited as they days pass.

[Callum.]

Nope no public beta. Which i think is better, so you get mor3e excited as they days pass.

would rather it had come out last year! first year of A levels so not going to have the time I had last year :(.

[dbgtz]

is there anymore news on a public beta?

i've seen his post on fourzerotwo and have seen a few videos on youtube which I'm guessing are selected testers, but has anything else been released.

Alot is footage from a conference however long back (last week sometime) where it was private and I think it was mostly gaming places and like whoever else would be invited.

[ItsDave]

The only beta its getting is private and will be for Infinty Ward and Activision employees who worked on the game.

[Gangster]

The only beta its getting is private and will be for Infinty Ward and Activision employees who worked on the game.Not just them. People from big gaming compaines. So maybe people from Gametrialers IGN and that.

[ItsDave]

Not just them. People from big gaming compaines. So maybe people from Gametrialers IGN and that.

Balls. I know its of no interest or any benefit to the people that made Mordern Warefare 2, but they should do a better to the public, but maybe they're just sticking to that countdown thing 11.10.09

[Gangster]

Balls. I know its of no interest or any benefit to the people that made Mordern Warefare 2, but they should do a better to the public, but maybe they're just sticking to that countdown thing 11.10.09
Quoted from 402
"We have many different groups here trying it out"

Interviewer: "Will the people at home be able to play the beta?"
fourzerotwo: "Not the people at home, but you will"

[Fez]

Hi thick ******. THE LEAD AND PRESIDENT OF IW SAID NO BETA YOU DUMB ****

No need to be rude. If you're like this in real life then I would feel for your friends.

"Hey let's go buy a muffin."
"Yeah they're only 20p"
"But I thought baker bill said they're only 15p"
"Hi thick ******. THE LEAD AND PRESIDENT OF BAKER BILL SAID NO MUFFIN YOU DUMB ****"

[Middlesbrough]

No it's not. It's for 10 seconds.
Y SO SRZ

In all seriousness its actualy 45 seconds so dont start with statistics.

EDIT:

No need to be rude. If you're like this in real life then I would feel for your friends.

"Hey let's go buy a muffin."
"Yeah they're only 20p"
"But I thought baker bill said they're only 15p"
"Hi thick ******. THE LEAD AND PRESIDENT OF BAKER BILL SAID NO MUFFIN YOU DUMB ****"

Couldn't stop laughing...

[PaulMacC]

Yes, it has been confirmed as a private only Beta between people from Activision and Infinty Ward.

Also, the Perk "Bling" isn't duel wielding SMG's, its two attatchments on one gun ;)
Whatever, the game is still going to suck.
They've put too much effort into it and I think the game is going to rely on luck rather than skill. I mean why bother putting automatic pistols and regular pistols. People are going to pick the automatic. Last stand plus a glock is going to be hell. They said they'd balance it but I do not want to give up a perk slot for coldblooded. UAV is essential in FPS games, some dont even have it and rely on sound alone. A heartbeat sensor/thermal scope give you instant access to your enemy team's position. It isnt fair.
Yeah Im looking forward to it but not that much due to WaW let down.

[Callum.]

Whatever, the game is still going to suck.
They've put too much effort into it and I think the game is going to rely on luck rather than skill. I mean why bother putting automatic pistols and regular pistols. People are going to pick the automatic. Last stand plus a glock is going to be hell. They said they'd balance it but I do not want to give up a perk slot for coldblooded. UAV is essential in FPS games, some dont even have it and rely on sound alone. A heartbeat sensor/thermal scope give you instant access to your enemy team's position. It isnt fair.
Yeah Im looking forward to it but not that much due to WaW let down.

I think it's going to be a wait and see. no matter what, I think an awful lot of people will buy the game but I can see where you're coming from. I can see them putting too much effort into things.

[Fez]

Whatever, the game is still going to suck.
They've put too much effort into it and I think the game is going to rely on luck rather than skill. I mean why bother putting automatic pistols and regular pistols. People are going to pick the automatic. Last stand plus a glock is going to be hell. They said they'd balance it but I do not want to give up a perk slot for coldblooded. UAV is essential in FPS games, some dont even have it and rely on sound alone. A heartbeat sensor/thermal scope give you instant access to your enemy team's position. It isnt fair.
Yeah Im looking forward to it but not that much due to WaW let down.

I agree, I think there's too much STUFF in the game and it's so much stuff that it's going to be unbalanced.

[Dusty-09]

I agree, I think there's too much STUFF in the game and it's so much stuff that it's going to be unbalanced.

I know what you mean, but what can MW2 do? They can't ever be right as to make the long time players happy they would need to make the game balanced but to make the noobs happy more STUF PL0X SO I CAN 0WNAG3 plz -.-

Anyway, you can't know for sure as it hasn't come out yet. Just wait, I think it will be great :)

[PaulMacC]

I know what you mean, but what can MW2 do? They can't ever be right as to make the long time players happy they would need to make the game balanced but to make the noobs happy more STUF PL0X SO I CAN 0WNAG3 plz -.-

Anyway, you can't know for sure as it hasn't come out yet. Just wait, I think it will be great :)
I think they should reward the players that have kept CoD4 alive these past 2 years rather than bringing in new market. But it's all about money.

I've made a my thoughts if anyone wants to view it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ0UG0D7VDk
Part 2 is a video response.

[Oleh]

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6238/mw2xbox.png (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/mw2xbox.png/)


Just done it

[dbgtz]

Personally all I really hate is the deathstreaks, its like saying "well done you killed 20 swans, youre going to be knighted by the queen".
I personally will like the HBS, thermal scope will probably suck though and be a noob attatchment.

[PaulMacC]

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6238/mw2xbox.png (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/mw2xbox.png/)


Just done it
Possibly the biggest waste of money ever. Why didn't you buy something that would benefit you playing this game like an Astro or Turtle Beach headset?

[Gangster]

I mean why bother putting automatic pistols and regular pistols.
Honestly we'll have to wait and see. I mean I'd rather use a Desert Eagle rather than a Skorpian, but that's probably because I suck with Skorpian.

[5,5]

Possibly the biggest waste of money ever. Why didn't you buy something that would benefit you playing this game like an Astro or Turtle Beach headset?
Can you please stop advertising those headsets in every post you have. Thanks :rolleyes:

[Gangster]

Can you please stop advertising those headsets in every post you have. Thanks :rolleyes:
But it's true. TB's are like 40$ and they're better and more useful than Goggles.

[5,5]

I didnt say they werent more useful its just annoying reading every single post he has and it always somehow goes back to how hes wasting his money on some $150 astros.

[Gangster]

I didnt say they werent more useful its just annoying reading every single post he has and it always somehow goes back to how hes wasting his money on some $150 astros.
Astros aren't a waste of money. They're the best gaming headset. If you can afford them why not get them?

[5,5]

Astros aren't a waste of money. They're the best gaming headset. If you can afford them why not get them?
The only way you can justify spending that kind of money of a gaming headset is if you do not have a life and all you do is play video games.

[Gangster]

The only way you can justify spending that kind of money of a gaming headset is if you do not have a life and all you do is play video games.Haha. You can play video games for a living and still have a life you know. Peoples jobs evolve around video games.

Imagine your a immense gamer and have all types of games. You work for a gaming company and your rich. If you like video games and you have the money, your gonna get the best gear.

[Oleh]

But it's true. TB's are like 40$ and they're better and more useful than Goggles.

Seems you are not very observant as the previous picture was the mw2 xbox not the goggles :)

[Gangster]

Seems you are not very observant as the previous picture was the mw2 xbox not the goggles :)
Oh yh I thought it was Prestige Edition, soz.

[Black_Apalachi]

Possibly the biggest waste of money ever. Why didn't you buy something that would benefit you playing this game like an Astro or Turtle Beach headset?

Can someone explain what's so great about TBs? My brother has been going on about them for ages and now he's ordered one. He says it allows you to hear people's footsteps on CoD from the other side of the map? :S

I imagine he's talking horse **** and that would be stupid anyway but yeah, what's so great??

[Gangster]

Can someone explain what's so great about TBs? My brother has been going on about them for ages and now he's ordered one. He says it allows you to hear people's footsteps on CoD from the other side of the map? :S

I imagine he's talking horse **** and that would be stupid anyway but yeah, what's so great??
What's so great about them is you can hear peoples footsteps, so you know where they are. You may be thinking, you can hear their footsteps, so what.

Well it's like a downgraded UAV. Because if it's S&D, FFA, 1v1 or a quiet game, it's like a UAV.

[5,5]

Haha. You can play video games for a living and still have a life you know. Peoples jobs evolve around video games.

Imagine your a immense gamer and have all types of games. You work for a gaming company and your rich. If you like video games and you have the money, your gonna get the best gear.
Yeah but Im pretty sure that hes just a teenager that does not work with video games for a living and just goes to school and plays video games all day.

[Gangster]

Yeah but Im pretty sure that hes just a teenager that does not work with video games for a living and just goes to school and plays video games all day.Yeah but he obviously has the money.

If you like games and have money, your gonna get the best gear shall I say.

[dbgtz]

ye to above, if you have 1 mil and youre looking for a car youre not gonna buy a cruddy ford lol.

[5,5]

Yes but I dont think he has the money. Hes just gonna get mommy and daddy to shell out the cash.

[Gangster]

Yes but I dont think he has the money. Hes just gonna get mommy and daddy to shell out the cash.
How do you know he doesn't have the money?

And even if his mum/dad buys it for him...

If your mum said to you, do you want me to buy you a ferrari? Your not gonna say, no, I'll buy a ford with my own money.

[5,5]

How do you know he doesn't have the money?

And even if his mum/dad buys it for him...

If your mum said to you, do you want me to buy you a ferrari? Your not gonna say, no, I'll buy a ford with my own money.
Becuase hes said so.
And clearly and headset is a couple bucks less than a ferrari...

Im just saying, if my parents offered to spend $200 on me I'd probably ask for something that will improve my life. Not a headset so i can be a 1337 h4x0r @ c0d m0w

[Fez]

1337 h4x0r @ c0d m0w

m0w?

Mow?

Mow the lawn?

[Jord]

Personally all I really hate is the deathstreaks, its like saying "well done you killed 20 swans, youre going to be knighted by the queen".
I personally will like the HBS, thermal scope will probably suck though and be a noob attatchment.


Tell me about it...


Heart beat moniter

your own little UAV

Thermal scope, dont get me started..


but I guess noone can use it on bright maps?

[Jordy]

Tell me about it...


Heart beat moniter

your own little UAV

Thermal scope, dont get me started..


but I guess noone can use it on bright maps?Thermal should allow you to see people and cars through thin walls and maybe more. It's also particularly useful if a smoke grenade goes off.

[ItsDave]

Whatever, the game is still going to suck.
They've put too much effort into it and I think the game is going to rely on luck rather than skill. I mean why bother putting automatic pistols and regular pistols. People are going to pick the automatic. Last stand plus a glock is going to be hell. They said they'd balance it but I do not want to give up a perk slot for coldblooded. UAV is essential in FPS games, some dont even have it and rely on sound alone. A heartbeat sensor/thermal scope give you instant access to your enemy team's position. It isnt fair.
Yeah Im looking forward to it but not that much due to WaW let down.

I do semi-agree. Alot has been put into this game, trying to make it fairer for poorer players it's just going to make it a poor game for good players. They've tried to improve it so much with guns and weapons and bonuses, it's blown itself out of the sea. Won't stop me from buying it though, co's I sold CoD4 lol.

[PaulMacC]

Yeah but Im pretty sure that hes just a teenager that does not work with video games for a living and just goes to school and plays video games all day.
I actually earn like $50 from posting my videos on blip.tv
Dont judge with no insight.

[Black_Apalachi]

What's so great about them is you can hear peoples footsteps, so you know where they are. You may be thinking, you can hear their footsteps, so what.

Well it's like a downgraded UAV. Because if it's S&D, FFA, 1v1 or a quiet game, it's like a UAV.

I was actually thinking, it's stupid if I can hear footsteps from the other side of the map. Is that actually how sensitive it is or is it just a considerable further range than normal?

I also think it's a bit stupid that the poor/non-spoilt kids are automatically disadvantaged by things like this which clearly would provide a massive advantage for those using them.

I now realise how I usually do pretty well but quite often get absolutely hammered. Well, my brother has ordered it so should be here in a few days :D.

[PaulMacC]

I was actually thinking, it's stupid if I can hear footsteps from the other side of the map. Is that actually how sensitive it is or is it just a considerable further range than normal?

I also think it's a bit stupid that the poor/non-spoilt kids are automatically disadvantaged by things like this which clearly would provide a massive advantage for those using them.

I now realise how I usually do pretty well but quite often get absolutely hammered. Well, my brother has ordered it so should be here in a few days :D.
They can use dead silence, then only people with good 5.1 headsets can hear them. Most people just have TB X1, X3's which cant hear dead silence.

[5,5]

I actually earn like $50 from posting my videos on blip.tv
Dont judge with no insight.
$50 per...day,week,month,year??
edit: and I read in another thread that your parents were buyign this for you, so that $50 has no relevance here.

[PaulMacC]

$50 per...day,week,month,year??
edit: and I read in another thread that your parents were buyign this for you, so that $50 has no relevance here.
Yeah, they are. So what?
I have nothing else that I need at this moment except a new headset seeing as my turtle beach broke. I have my own job which brings in my own money. I don't need a new pc, phone, tv or anything like that.
I get around $50 take or give a month.

[5,5]

Yeah, they are. So what?
I have nothing else that I need at this moment except a new headset seeing as my turtle beach broke. I have my own job which brings in my own money. I don't need a new pc, phone, tv or anything like that.
I get around $50 take or give a month.
Oh wow, $50 a month, and thats for a part time job? I make $20 working for about 30 mins on sunday cutting a neighbors grass.

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[Jord]

Paul I would get astros waste if mw2 is full of noob, Who play using all the over powered stuff..

[PaulMacC]

Oh wow, $50 a month, and thats for a part time job? I make $20 working for about 30 mins on sunday cutting a neighbors grass.
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No, I have a part-time job on top of the $50 I make from videos.
If your signifying I dont have friends, I have plenty thanks.

[Jord]

Should this thread been deleted/locked? we got a cod section now no need for this thread or else no need for a sub forum

[Black_Apalachi]

They can use dead silence, then only people with good 5.1 headsets can hear them. Most people just have TB X1, X3's which cant hear dead silence.

Sorry I haven't been playing long, is Dead Silence a perk?

[Favourtism]

Sorry I haven't been playing long, is Dead Silence a perk?

yeah, makes you silent(er)

[Gangster]

Oh wow, $50 a month, and thats for a part time job? I make $20 working for about 30 mins on sunday cutting a neighbors grass.

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50$ for playing games.

[5,5]

No, I have a part-time job on top of the $50 I make from videos.
If your signifying I dont have friends, I have plenty thanks.
facebook, myspace, and jord n josh n that gangster kid dont count.

[Gangster]

facebook, myspace, and jord n josh n that gangster kid dont count.Lol. I'm not his "friend". I don't know him so I'm not classified as one of his "friends" so yea.

And If I was, how would that not count? That would be like me saying you have no friends. Then saying name all of them, but people from your school don't count.

[PaulMacC]

facebook, myspace, and jord n josh n that gangster kid dont count.
You remind me of those kids who think they're cool by insulting others. Most of the time it's the kids who get picked on or have little friends at school who do this. I find it funny people have to critise others to hide their jealously, rage or just to boost their ego.

[5,5]

You remind me of those kids who think they're cool by insulting others. Most of the time it's the kids who get picked on or have little friends at school who do this. I find it funny people have to critise others to hide their jealously, rage or just to boost their ego.
lolol yeah im that kid.

[J0SH]

lolol yeah im that kid.

Atleast you've admitted it, no more being in denial :eusa_clap

[Jord]

facebook, myspace, and jord n josh n that gangster kid dont count.


Just because you have no friends online doesnt mean paul cant have them, I find it funny how in mostly every thread you get into a fight, Hiding behind your computer screen drinking your mountain dew acting big.

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[Black_Apalachi]

Just because you have no friends online doesnt mean paul cant have them, I find it funny how in mostly every thread you get into a fight, Hiding behind your computer screen drinking your mountain dew acting big.

Woah, idk what this fight is about but leave MD out of it. MD is da sex! :8

[Jord]

MD Sucks :@ Taste vile

[Black_Apalachi]

MD Sucks :@ Taste vile

-rep & *kills self

[5,5]

I dont drink pop. Online fights are fun. Josh.. one word. Scarcasm. I kow the school systems arent that great in britville but jeeez.

[J0SH]

The school systems are better, we don't get forced to stay into education till we're 18 and we don't get school shooting massacres here ;)

[kk.]

The school systems are better, we don't get forced to stay into education till we're 18 and we don't get school shooting massacres here ;)

Oh yeh, well thought out. Surely that proves that America are educating better.. Ok any case current year 8s are being made to stay on, whether college or sixth form

[dbgtz]

Chances are most people will want to go to college/sixth form in england but it at least gives the opportunity for a break year, earn some cash etc. etc.

[ItsDave]

I thought new laws came into place that we do now have to stay in School till we're 18, people that started secondary school in 2008 have to stay on until they're 18.

[J0SH]

Oh yeh, well thought out. Surely that proves that America are educating better.. Ok any case current year 8s are being made to stay on, whether college or sixth form

Wrong, their education is the equivelant to us finishing in year 11. So us finishing 2 years early, people go to college anyway so we get ahead quicker.

[5,5]

Clearly we learn more in those 2 years so we're right on the same track except you guys just call it college earlier. And we dont have school shootings every year. And Im sure you guys have had one or two at least so you look dumb there a couple times.

[dbgtz]

Though wikipedia I saw 4 school attacks and 1 was by a guy with paranoia (in the UK).

[5,5]

Though wikipedia I saw 4 school attacks and 1 was by a guy with paranoia (in the UK).
Well clearly anyone that shoots up a school has something wrong going on in their head..

[ItsDave]

Amazing how a Call Of Duty thread can divert from topic to school :S

[Kdwndr8]

Someone should add a list of the confirmed weapons, perks for MW2.:D