User Ranks

Why on earth do the ranks go -
- Gold
- Ruby
- Sapphire
- Emerald
- Platinum
- Habbox God

I really don't understand why when you first join, you become a gold member immediately. Gold usually signals wealth and power. Surely therefore Gold should be a higher user rank. Also, Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald don't really, to me signal any inner feelings in terms of for example, it's better than gold, it's worth a lot, and so on.... Frankly I have no idea which one is worth more than the other!

So why not use the common metals which are always associated with being better than the other? That with the addition of Platinum and Habbox God.

In short, rather than my overly complicated and badly written paragraph. Why don't the ranks go -
- Bronze
- Silver
- Gold
- Emerald
- Platinum
- Habbox God

To me, this makes more sense and given that bronze isn't really considered anything amazing, silver is slightly better but not great, and gold should be respected.

I think this summarises my feelings today - :rolleyes:.

It was once Bronze Silver Gold then the other ranks, I can't remember when it changed or why it changed and the Search is giving me errors right now so I can't check either. But I'll assume there was a reason for removing the first two, perhaps to make members feel valued. Maybe I even did it and don't remember, but I think it happened later. I think the reason might have been very related to what you pointed out:

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To me, this makes more sense and given that bronze isn't really considered anything amazing, silver is slightly better but not great, and gold should be respected.

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I would think that management sought to avoid classifying any users as "nothing amazing" or "slightly better but not great". The message sent shouldn't be being classified as an inferior member based on your post count.

As far as Ruby etc. it went Metals, then Gems, hence the progression from Bronze Silver Gold to Ruby Sapphire Emerald.

New members need not be at the bottom of the pile which is why the ranks were changed to begin at Gold Member, you say "Gold should be respected" - why the should new members not be respected?, you say bronze isn't "anything amazing" - that's quite insulting to new members.

The rest of the suggestions are quite pedantic really, it's an order of usergroups it's in no way to signify who is better etc - if we wanted that we'd go for a full blown class system.

No I'm saying that as a general view of the metals themselves.

Getting a new user rank should be rewarding.

I'm not using the idea of basing a user on their post count, it just seems stupid.

When I joined this forum I wasn't insulted by my user rank. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Ayd

No I'm saying that as a general view of the metals themselves.

Getting a new user rank should be rewarding.

I'm not using the idea of basing a user on their post count, it just seems stupid.

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It is rewarding, you know which ranks come after one another and moving up a rank is an accomplishment. Once you hit Ruby you know you've moved up in the world from the likes of the Metals ranks to the Gems ranks. Outgrown your forum adolescence so to speak :P

The entire change was a joke, which I seem to remember Jke and Oli fronting quite heavily.

It was all to make 'new users feel better' - which in itself is the most preposterous comment ever. Virtually EVERY forum has bronze, silver and gold - the whole removing of bronze was, and still is, insane.

With the rep bar thing that is currently being debated - god knows why such a thing is allowed - we wouldn't want new users being put down that they only have one dark green bar :S Why not make it a nice bright blue - just to make them feel good?

While I think that it was a tiny bit unecessary changing the ranks like that (especially because the reason more were added in the first place was to allow even more advancement opportunities and to raise the ranks), I also don't think that it was that destructive to the forum, apart from the possible aforementioned problem.

Is it really that much of a problem that it starts with Gold? I personally wouldn't have supported the change, but now that it's done, is it that big an issue?

Please don't, you're offending my user rank and my reputation.

Ridiculous.

It was only introduced in at the request of the members only last May. I found a post while looking in which you didn't like it there either :P.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...71#post6488971
This is when it was introduced.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=645704

It was considered over a period of time and I can't think of anybody complaining about it until today. In fact everybody has enjoyed the new more generous avatar and signature limits. It was a very good move - members feel valuable as soon as they have posted a few times. :)

i was a habbox god until someone gave me this stupid vip

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Originally Posted by Milestone

The entire change was a joke, which I seem to remember Jke and Oli fronting quite heavily.

It was all to make 'new users feel better' - which in itself is the most preposterous comment ever. Virtually EVERY forum has bronze, silver and gold - the whole removing of bronze was, and still is, insane.

With the rep bar thing that is currently being debated - god knows why such a thing is allowed - we wouldn't want new users being put down that they only have one dark green bar :S Why not make it a nice bright blue - just to make them feel good?

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You have always had a poor attitude towards new users Dom. The system works quite well, we have a userrank system not based on classification and the rewards you get for userranks are forum privelidges which tend to be hidden. A new member is just as valued at Habbox as a member who has been here from the start.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

It was only introduced in at the request of the members only last May. I found a post while looking in which you didn't like it there either :P.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...71#post6488971
This is when it was introduced.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=645704

It was considered over a period of time and I can't think of anybody complaining about it until today. In fact everybody has enjoyed the new more generous avatar and signature limits. It was a very good move - members feel valuable as soon as they have posted a few times. :)

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What was so difficult about giving bronze and silver members more perks then? The user ranks themselves need not be changed.

After viewing Catzsy's posted thread, it seems the changes were made to give the newer users additional privileges. That said I think the changes had much more merit than simply changing Bronze to Gold. Although I would have more supported just shifting the privileges downwards and keeping the ranks. Regardless, the argument still stands: does it impede your enjoyment of the forum that much that ranks now start at gold?

wth why does anyone care? Its only a rank, if they shouldnt care about being bronze then you shouldnt care about them being gold.


ive argued bout some pretty pointless things on this forum before but cmon.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

It was only introduced in at the request of the members only last May. I found a post while looking in which you didn't like it there either :P.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...71#post6488971
This is when it was introduced.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=645704

It was considered over a period of time and I can't think of anybody complaining about it until today. In fact everybody has enjoyed the new more generous avatar and signature limits. It was a very good move - members feel valuable as soon as they have posted a few times. :)

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That bit doesn't make sense. Users have ALWAYS been given more privileges the more they post. Changing the colours was not needed, and was just like every other bit of feedback by Immense at the time. Absolutely everything was about 'making new users feel better and more confident.' Which was a dumb argument from the start.

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Originally Posted by Milestone

That bit doesn't make sense. Users have ALWAYS been given more privileges the more they post. Changing the colours was not needed, and was just like every other bit of feedback by Immense at the time. Absolutely everything was about 'making new users feel better and more confident.' Which was a dumb argument from the start.

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If I remember rightly it wasn't just feedback from Immenseman but Immenseman befriended a group of newer users and asked about their first experiences of Habbox Forum, these users posted within the feedback thread and I agreed with what they were saying, they raised valid points and we listened.

Ayd's proved exactly why we removed "Bronze" because look what he said "isn't anything amazing" and then how "gold should give you respect" - why on earth new members arent entitled to respect I am absolutely baffled.

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Originally Posted by Milestone

That bit doesn't make sense. Users have ALWAYS been given more privileges the more they post. Changing the colours was not needed, and was just like every other bit of feedback by Immense at the time. Absolutely everything was about 'making new users feel better and more confident.' Which was a dumb argument from the start.

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Totally agree, and Hectix you can't just say someone has a negative attitude towards new members, if we said that about you you would just kick off. It's very rude.

Also, if a new user a 'valued' the same then we all want the same privileges, all with our own coloured usertitles and whatever they get.

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Originally Posted by Hecktix

If I remember rightly it wasn't just feedback from Immenseman but Immenseman befriended a group of newer users and asked about their first experiences of Habbox Forum, these users posted within the feedback thread and I agreed with what they were saying, they raised valid points and we listened.

Ayd's proved exactly why we removed "Bronze" because look what he said "isn't anything amazing" and then how "gold should give you respect" - why on earth new members arent entitled to respect I am absolutely baffled.

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Because post count and join date directly correlate to penis size, everyone knows that.

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Originally Posted by Hecktix

You have always had a poor attitude towards new users Dom. The system works quite well, we have a userrank system not based on classification and the rewards you get for userranks are forum privelidges which tend to be hidden. A new member is just as valued at Habbox as a member who has been here from the start.

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No.

I respect new users much more than most the (although now banned) users on here. However, I firmly believe changing the colour of some stars was some pathetic move to make people 'feel more valued'. How, just out of interest, does a new user feel more valued? As I argued at the time, and as I will continue to argue now, after a few months (which it has now been), a gold member is recognised as the 'newb' on the forum - so all that has changed is what colour people are when they are new?

I am pretty sure new users could have been given more privileges without changing the stars. Mind you, I don't really care as it hasn't and won't affect me. With VIP starts are hidden anyway so it doesn't really matter :L

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Although on the old argument; why not give new users colourful names and VIP features - we wouldn't want them feeling small now, would we?

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Originally Posted by nvrspk4

Because post count and join date directly correlate to penis size, everyone knows that.

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Oh ****, forgot AHAHAH NVR I HAVE MORE POSTS THAN YOU!!!!!11

get rid of user ranks and reputation

that way; no arguements

you're either a paid member or you are not

thats what i'd do anyway

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Originally Posted by Hecktix

If I remember rightly it wasn't just feedback from Immenseman but Immenseman befriended a group of newer users and asked about their first experiences of Habbox Forum, these users posted within the feedback thread and I agreed with what they were saying, they raised valid points and we listened.

Ayd's proved exactly why we removed "Bronze" because look what he said "isn't anything amazing" and then how "gold should give you respect" - why on earth new members arent entitled to respect I am absolutely baffled.

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And by that I meant post counts, not the people themselves. Stop bending what I say.

I agree that it feels a bit odd starting off at gold.

I remember when i first joined and saw i had 'gold membership', i thought it was an error or a glitch. It would make more sense in my opinion to not start at gold but at the end of the day it doesn't bother me too much.

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Originally Posted by Ayd

And by that I meant post counts, not the people themselves. Stop bending what I say.

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You didn't highlight that at all, and the point still stands, just because someone has a smaller postcount does not mean they are inferior.

Did I say that? Then the whole user rank system should go.

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Originally Posted by Hecktix

Oh ****, forgot AHAHAH NVR I HAVE MORE POSTS THAN YOU!!!!!11

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Was that supposed to make someone laugh, Oli?

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I think we all know someone who has been on the forum for five years is going to, in general, be listened to more than someone who has joined yesterday.

Anyone who denies that concept is an imbecile.

I think we should refer to runescape for this one (bronze,silver,gold, sapphire, emerald, ruby, diamond, plat, hxf god) you know :)

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Originally Posted by Milestone

That bit doesn't make sense. Users have ALWAYS been given more privileges the more they post. Changing the colours was not needed, and was just like every other bit of feedback by Immense at the time. Absolutely everything was about 'making new users feel better and more confident.' Which was a dumb argument from the start.

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Well it is not dumb, Dom. Gold is more prestigious to members however you look at it and basically the small limits of the bronze and silver avatar were scrapped. The whole user systema was looked at and these user ranks were introduced - it benefited all the members.
http://www.habboxforum.com/faq.php?f..._userpostranks
I cannot understand why you are both suddenly complaining about this after all these months.
Perhaps you would like to suggest an alternative that would make sense and avoid members privileges they have enjoyed for months being withdrawn? Please don't say 'change the colour' unless you can think of one positive thing to support that.

Yeah nice to see you're taking our views seriously. You shouldn't be so opinionated.

And the reason I'm complaining now is because I felt like it.

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Originally Posted by Milestone

Was that supposed to make someone laugh, Oli?

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I think we all know someone who has been on the forum for five years is going to, in general, be listened to more than someone who has joined yesterday.

Anyone who denies that concept is an imbecile.

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I disagree completely. I've met plenty of idiotic old-school members (several of whom have left). I have also met quite a few very mature new members. If someone has been making good contributions over five years, then I am going to listen to them more often than someone that has made one good post, yes. However the only time I ever use join date is when they make a comment on how Habbox is run, because then it is valid (assuming that the account does not belong to a returning user). Otherwise, I judge their point based on the logic they use and the validity of the points they make.

What a novel concept.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

Well it is not dumb, Dom. Gold is more prestigous to members however you look at it and basically the small limits of the bronze and silver avatar were scrapped. The whole user systema was looked at and these user ranks were introduced - it benefited all the members.
http://www.habboxforum.com/faq.php?f..._userpostranks
I cannot understand why you are both suddenly complaining about this after all these months.
Perhaps you would like to suggest an alternative that would make sense and avoid members privileges they have enjoyed for months being withdrawn? Please don't say 'change the colour' unless you can think of one positive thing to support that.

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I have already stated, I really don't give a damn about what new users get - I have VIP, it doesn't affect me. However, since this is in Feedback I will put my view across.

My point is, changing the colour originally was a pointless thing to do, considering the user privileges could have been changed without changing the colours. It just seemed pointless, and was some lame attempt to make 'new users feel better'.

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Originally Posted by Milestone

I have already stated, I really don't give a damn about what new users get - I have VIP, it doesn't affect me. However, since this is in Feedback I will put my view across.

My point is, changing the colour originally was a pointless thing to do, considering the user privileges could have been changed without changing the colours. It just seemed pointless, and was some lame attempt to make 'new users feel better'.

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With this, I don't disagree that much. What I do disagree with is the need to oppose it. I would have joined you in opposing it had the Feedback thread still been here and the change not been enacted yet. But now that it has changed, and I don't think that it is significantly altering the Habbox experience, I personally have moved on and instead will argue about other changes that have more impact on the forum, instead of what I consider unwise changes that, on the whole, don't really matter that much.

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Originally Posted by nvrspk4

I disagree completely. I've met plenty of idiotic old-school members (several of whom have left). I have also met quite a few very mature new members. If someone has been making good contributions over five years, then I am going to listen to them more often than someone that has made one good post, yes. However the only time I ever use join date is when they make a comment on how Habbox is run, because then it is valid (assuming that the account does not belong to a returning user). Otherwise, I judge their point based on the logic they use and the validity of the points they make.

What a novel concept.

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I knew people would disagree when I posted it - but time at something does generally give more respect etc.

Look at a school. What happens if a year 7 'starts' on a year 11? (not sure what it is in America). In a gang, what would happen if a new member has completely opposite views to someone who has been in the gang for a long time (and is likely to have befriended the leaders)?

As much as people want to believe new members are just as well respected as older members, it isn't true.

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And Oli, don't even question my respect for newer members.

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Originally Posted by Arch

I think we should refer to runescape for this one (bronze,silver,gold, sapphire, emerald, ruby, diamond, plat, hxf god) you know :)

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lolol bronze, iron, steel, mithril etc! :P

Anyway yeah, I'm not really fussed either way. Would having a bronze rank make me feel less special? No, users' attitude towards me for having said rank would and it'd take more than a name change of the ranks to change that. Despite that, like nvr said (in perhaps his shortest post ever? where's the essay?), now that it's been done, it's a very small thing to really change back imo.

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Originally Posted by nvrspk4

With this, I don't disagree that much. What I do disagree with is the need to oppose it. I would have joined you in opposing it had the Feedback thread still been here and the change not been enacted yet. But now that it has changed, and I don't think that it is significantly altering the Habbox experience, I personally have moved on and instead will argue about other changes that have more impact on the forum, instead of what I consider unwise changes that, on the whole, don't really matter that much.

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I hate to interrupt here. But did I make this thread? No. Is this thread in a public feedback forum? Yes. So me giving my feedback on it is fine, right? Correct.

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Originally Posted by Milestone

I knew people would disagree when I posted it - but time at something does generally give more respect etc.

Look at a school. What happens if a year 7 'starts' on a year 11? (not sure what it is in America). In a gang, what would happen if a new member has completely opposite views to someone who has been in the gang for a long time (and is likely to have befriended the leaders)?

As much as people want to believe new members are just as well respected as older members, it isn't true.

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And Oli, don't even question my respect for newer members.

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Year 7 versus Year 11 has a very significant difference, they actually correspond to age and overall experience in life. Experience in using the forum is not a prerequisite for me to respect you. If someone asks me how the user ranks system works, that doesn't mean that I'm going to think that they have nothing useful to say about the political situation in the UK.

Also, I categorically object to your analogy of gang members. That's exactly what the forum is seeking to avoid, a cliquey, hierarchy-based gang.

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Originally Posted by Arch

I think we should refer to runescape for this one (bronze,silver,gold, sapphire, emerald, ruby, diamond, plat, hxf god) you know :)

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couldn't agree more. but then i might be offended.... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by nvrspk4

Year 7 versus Year 11 has a very significant difference, they actually correspond to age and overall experience in life. Experience in using the forum is not a prerequisite for me to respect you. If someone asks me how the user ranks system works, that doesn't mean that I'm going to think that they have nothing useful to say about the political situation in the UK.

Also, I categorically object to your analogy of gang members. That's exactly what the forum is seeking to avoid, a cliquey, hierarchy-based gang.

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It was just a situation in life where the same thing happens. In fact, why not suggest a situation where a new person is just as respected as an older person? Even in a work place, a new person is the 'newbie' - and will often be given the joibs no one else wants to do.

they're pointless anyway j/s

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Originally Posted by Milestone

I have already stated, I really don't give a damn about what new users get - I have VIP, it doesn't affect me. However, since this is in Feedback I will put my view across.

My point is, changing the colour originally was a pointless thing to do, considering the user privileges could have been changed without changing the colours. It just seemed pointless, and was some lame attempt to make 'new users feel better'.

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Well I don't think it was lame at all and I feel it has worked. So agree to disagree on this one. :P