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all to kazopark for the snq!
MKR&*42
16-06-2012, 11:12 AM
Yeah wired doesn't work apparently^. You could do the same via stickies and wave each time the question has been changed lmfao? Determination.
scottish
16-06-2012, 11:27 AM
"Paul LaFontaine @PaulLaFo
Habbos, a family day today but reading your tweets. Keep up the good spirit! More on the Unmute soon. Thanks"
tweet by paul so hopefully unmuted today seems unlikely though ;l
lawrawrrr
16-06-2012, 11:36 AM
i can't do any of my fav. wired mazes, crycry!! Hopefully we'll find out something useful soon!
everyone on Habbo seems to be just boosting, like all the normal boosting rooms are full :P
MKR&*42
16-06-2012, 12:13 PM
why would vip members need compensation? They can still use every single one of the VIP features...
Yes but no chat makes the game uninteresting and boring, so people stop playing. VIPs are renowned as being "loyal" because they've most likely bought credits (revenue for Sulake) to get that VIP. To purchase a premium service and then find out that the service you're using it on has turned into a disaster because no-one can communicate, would piss you off a lot.
Also, just an example, if a VIP had been a fan of CC they wouldn't be able to reap the benefits by playing that game often (due to more clothing varieties - it's usually VIP members who win the game xD).
Glad we're getting compensated, although we could use VIP and stuff, it would have been pointless. We should all get a throne for being great too. ;l Hope we're unmuted today. :)
i can't do any of my fav. wired mazes, crycry!! Hopefully we'll find out something useful soon!
Haha, yeah. I wanted to do some! I know Interter (or whatever his username is) made rooms needing the keyword so you just teleport past them.
wiktoria
16-06-2012, 12:16 PM
not been following this thread but i really like the torch trophy they gave people it's cute.
Xedia
16-06-2012, 12:16 PM
everyone on Habbo seems to be just boosting, like all the normal boosting rooms are full :P
Beats standing in the welcome lounge with a torch in your hand :)
Jarkie
16-06-2012, 12:16 PM
everyone on Habbo seems to be just boosting, like all the normal boosting rooms are full :P
Hahaa thats what i've started to do... theres nothing to do atm! Playing a we bit to much of that fast food game gets dull.
Poll in the Welcome Lounge, and I gave this as my feedback:
and
The mute is not to punish the habbos, it is so people who have seen the news reports dont make an account and see that the things in the news are going on and then more news reports would come out and more chance of habbo shutting down, it would seem like habbo had done nothing about the problem
MKR&*42
16-06-2012, 12:17 PM
Glad we're getting compensated, although we could use VIP and stuff, it would have been pointless. We should all get a throne for being great too. ;l Hope we're unmuted today. :)
Haha, yeah. I wanted to do some! I know Interter (or whatever his username is) made rooms needing the keyword so you just teleport past them.
Go ask the people at trade city Georgia, I'm sure they all love you. Oh wait you got banned ;).
I seriously love the trophy though xD.
lawrawrrr
16-06-2012, 12:20 PM
Yes but no chat makes the game uninteresting and boring, so people stop playing. VIPs are renowned as being "loyal" because they've most likely bought credits (revenue for Sulake) to get that VIP. To purchase a premium service and then find out that the service you're using it on has turned into a disaster because no-one can communicate, would piss you off a lot.
Also, just an example, if a VIP had been a fan of CC they wouldn't be able to reap the benefits by playing that game often (due to more clothing varieties - it's usually VIP members who win the game xD).
Makes it boring for norms to though? Norms can buy credits too, and choose not to waste it on superficial things such as clothing.
Haha, yeah. I wanted to do some! I know Interter (or whatever his username is) made rooms needing the keyword so you just teleport past them.
I was trying to do plebings' again for my latest review but got stuck cos i couldt say anything lol!!!
MKR&*42
16-06-2012, 12:25 PM
Makes it boring for norms to though? Norms can buy credits too, and choose not to waste it on superficial things such as clothing.
I was trying to do plebings' again for my latest review but got stuck cos i couldt say anything lol!!!
True they can buy credits, but I imagine Sulake consider a wide % of them to purchase it on VIP. A higher % of people have probably purchased credits and then got VIP than those who didn't bother with it. Also, considering VIPs can play unlimited games of SnowStorm and chat is disabled on that, that ruins it for them as well. The same for :chooser if they wish to play 5 sec. to kick or w.e it is.
Sulake already gave a badge and trophy out to everyone, norms haven't been completely left out.
lawrawrrr
16-06-2012, 12:43 PM
True they can buy credits, but I imagine Sulake consider a wide % of them to purchase it on VIP. A higher % of people have probably purchased credits and then got VIP than those who didn't bother with it. Also, considering VIPs can play unlimited games of SnowStorm and chat is disabled on that, that ruins it for them as well. The same for :chooser if they wish to play 5 sec. to kick or w.e it is.
Sulake already gave a badge and trophy out to everyone, norms haven't been completely left out.
Chooser still works... did last time I was on anyway. TBH I think if they're going to compensate people who have vip, they should comensate anyone who bought credits within the last week or so???
MKR&*42
16-06-2012, 12:46 PM
Chooser still works... did last time I was on anyway. TBH I think if they're going to compensate people who have vip, they should comensate anyone who bought credits within the last week or so???
Why credits, you can still use your credits? The marketplace is there for shopping and you can still trade. Heck, Mathew; even managed to run his grabber loool. As for the :chooser thing, I meant if they wanted to play the game they couldn't because everyone would be on the mute and if a host tried to explain the rules or tell them when the rights had been given out, it would be difficult.
Go ask the people at trade city Georgia, I'm sure they all love you. Oh wait you got banned ;).
I seriously love the trophy though xD.
shut up omg i am unbanned, it only lasted like an hr too. :/
unmute me habbo, i have so much 2 say. :(
lawrawrrr
16-06-2012, 12:53 PM
Why credits, you can still use your credits? The marketplace is there for shopping and you can still trade. Heck, @Mathew (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=31230); even managed to run his grabber loool. As for the :chooser thing, I meant if they wanted to play the game they couldn't because everyone would be on the mute and if a host tried to explain the rules or tell them when the rights had been given out, it would be difficult.
Because you're saying VIP members who buy credits should be rewarded for buying credits and spending it on VIP... why not norms too?
MKR&*42
16-06-2012, 12:58 PM
Because you're saying VIP members who buy credits should be rewarded for buying credits and spending it on VIP... why not norms too?
BECAUSE, as in the few examples I have given to you, they can't use their features. With credits, you can still trade stuff and create rooms, you can even host a grabber or casino as Mathew has done. VIPs can't use their features in certain situations - e.g. CC, 5 seconds to kick. Also, if VIPs want to continue to chat and make new friends, then they can't due to the mute so their extra friend list space goes to waste.
I wasn't aware that Sulake providing a good token for some people was such a horrid thing. I bet most of us loved it when we got that 7 days VIP, but VIP members being compensated is such a horrid thing.
I've not been on since last night, any news if we've been unmuted?
lawrawrrr
16-06-2012, 01:02 PM
BECAUSE, as in the few examples I have given to you, they can't use their features. With credits, you can still trade stuff and create rooms, you can even host a grabber or casino as Mathew has done. VIPs can't use their features in certain situations - e.g. CC, 5 seconds to kick. Also, if VIPs want to continue to chat and make new friends, then they can't due to the mute so their extra friend list space goes to waste.
I wasn't aware that Sulake providing a good token for some people was such a horrid thing. I bet most of us loved it when we got that 7 days VIP, but VIP members being compensated is such a horrid thing.
They can use all their features though! You said they should be rewarded as they are Sulakes 'best' customers, as they buy VIP, therefore credits, but norms can buy credits too! I just don't think it's fair they're rewarding superficiality.
Mathew
16-06-2012, 01:03 PM
Well I could host my grabber perfectly fine UNTIL I LOCKED MYSELF OUT OF TRADING.... Intersocial;
MKR&*42
16-06-2012, 01:10 PM
They can use all their features though! You said they should be rewarded as they are Sulakes 'best' customers, as they buy VIP, therefore credits, but norms can buy credits too! I just don't think it's fair they're rewarding superficiality.
More likely to be soon as loyal* Of course that's not always the case, yes they can use their features but not in the variety of situations as I said. I get so many people added onto my list everyday ('cause I'm too lazy to turn f/r off again and I feel bad if I decline someone ok LMFAO :/) and I imagine quite a few VIP members would meet a lot of people as well. If they can't speak, they can't benefit from the ability to add more friends than norms xD.
Can clearly see we're not going to agree over this xD. Also, what would you give as compensation to people who had bought credits then? :S.
Mathew; WELL THAT'S YOUR FAULT FOR TRYING TO PROTECT YOUR ACCOUNT ://. Go to customer support LMAO.
lawrawrrr
16-06-2012, 01:13 PM
More likely to be soon as loyal* Of course that's not always the case, yes they can use their features but not in the variety of situations as I said. I get so many people added onto my list everyday ('cause I'm too lazy to turn f/r off again and I feel bad if I decline someone ok LMFAO :/) and I imagine quite a few VIP members would meet a lot of people as well. If they can't speak, they can't benefit from the ability to add more friends than norms xD.
Can clearly see we're not going to agree over this xD. Also, what would you give as compensation to people who had bought credits then? :S.
@Mathew (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=31230); WELL THAT'S YOUR FAULT FOR TRYING TO PROTECT YOUR ACCOUNT ://. Go to customer support LMAO.
Ridiculous to say they're loyal... I'm friends with someone who's spent about 200 quid on credits THIS YEAR and prefers building than wasting it on clothes. I've actually been f/r'ed more times in the last few days than this whole year too so yeah :/... Yeah we're not gonna agree xD. Well if they're giving more VIP out to those who are VIP already, then maybe the same? Or like, a piece of furni or something.
MKR&*42
16-06-2012, 01:16 PM
Ridiculous to say they're loyal... I'm friends with someone who's spent about 200 quid on credits THIS YEAR and prefers building than wasting it on clothes. I've actually been f/r'ed more times in the last few days than this whole year too so yeah :/... Yeah we're not gonna agree xD. Well if they're giving more VIP out to those who are VIP already, then maybe the same? Or like, a piece of furni or something.
We already have a furni, admittedly it'd be better if it was tradeable but then the value would be next to nothing? It'd be hard to compensate with furniture/badge because the value of the furni would be low and the badge would be common (like all badges tbf ;l). They are more likely to be seen as loyal, I don't know many people who "waste" 25c on VIP (or more) and then quit a few days later lool. I also meant seen* as loyal oops.
You have a fair point about room builders though xD. But as I said, it'd be difficult to compensate them fairly?
FlyingJesus
16-06-2012, 01:22 PM
everyone on Habbo seems to be just boosting, like all the normal boosting rooms are full :P
Yeah I did it for a bit just to get PiiXeLZ to buy butterfly wings haha
Because you're saying VIP members who buy credits should be rewarded for buying credits and spending it on VIP... why not norms too?
Because VIP is a timed thing that runs out, credits aren't
Ridiculous to say they're loyal... I'm friends with someone who's spent about 200 quid on credits THIS YEAR and prefers building than wasting it on clothes.
Yeah and how many credits have they lost due to the mute? I'm gonna go with zero since there's no charge for having them sit around not being used, compared to however many days of VIP people have lost out on properly enjoying the features
lawrawrrr
16-06-2012, 01:27 PM
We already have a furni, admittedly it'd be better if it was tradeable but then the value would be next to nothing? It'd be hard to compensate with furniture/badge because the value of the furni would be low and the badge would be common (like all badges tbf ;l). They are more likely to be seen as loyal, I don't know many people who "waste" 25c on VIP (or more) and then quit a few days later lool. I also meant seen* as loyal oops.
You have a fair point about room builders though xD. But as I said, it'd be difficult to compensate them fairly?
Because VIP is a timed thing that runs out, credits aren't
Yeah and how many credits have they lost due to the mute? I'm gonna go with zero since there's no charge for having them sit around not being used, compared to however many days of VIP people have lost out on properly enjoying the features
OK i'm not understanding this, as VIP members haven't lost any features. They can still use every single one. I know what you're saying (warren) about compensating fairly - imo they should either be compensating everyone or noone.
FlyingJesus
16-06-2012, 01:30 PM
What is not to get about paying for a timed feature and then not being able to properly enjoy it? It's like buying a season ticket for a football team so you can go to the stadium whenever, but then there's no football on
they are giving us compensation and there is no point in complaining because its not going to stop them lol
There is appaz going to be a c4 debate on the issue and they are looking for people to take part.
Paraic O'Brien @paraicobrien (https://twitter.com/#!/paraicobrien)
Dear #HabboHotele (https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23HabboHotele) users, with view to poss TV debate, looking for comments/people interested in taking part @HabbodebateC4 (https://twitter.com/#!/HabbodebateC4)
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 02:06 PM
There is appaz going to be a c4 debate on the issue and they are looking for people to take part.
Paraic O'Brien @paraicobrien (https://twitter.com/#%21/paraicobrien)
Dear #HabboHotele (https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23HabboHotele) users, with view to poss TV debate, looking for comments/people interested in taking part @HabbodebateC4 (https://twitter.com/#%21/HabbodebateC4)
Messaged them, see if they actually reply
MKR&*42
16-06-2012, 02:07 PM
Nice spelling of hotel ;l.
Least they're opening it up to debate I suppose? :L.
I hope they decide to get people who know what they are talking about and and not just some angry kids who are going to make it worse.
FlyingJesus
16-06-2012, 02:08 PM
You know who's good for representing views in a debate? Angry kids with absolutely no capacity for logical reasoning
This is only going to end badly
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 02:10 PM
I hope they decide to get people who know what they are talking about and and not just some angry kids who are going to make it worse.
You know who's good for representing views in a debate? Angry kids with absolutely no capacity for logical reasoning
This is only going to end badly
hopefully we get benrepping on channel 4, now i will watch that.
Pure comedy
Jake gave a video of him its on youtube somewere with him ranting about Habbo
O god can you imagine... lmao
You know its just gonna end up badly. They are going to select awful people, and its going to make it even worse.
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 02:17 PM
O god can you imagine... lmao
You know its just gonna end up badly. They are going to select awful people, and its going to make it even worse.
I'd record it and put it onto dvd so i could watch it in my car everytime i get in
http://puu.sh/Bkqc
have they released a timer or are these people just lying to me
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 02:22 PM
http://puu.sh/Bkqc
have they released a timer or are these people just lying to me
Its two rooms, so possibility. or maybe just a way to get visitors
lawrawrrr
16-06-2012, 02:22 PM
Is it player owned or official?
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 02:24 PM
Is it player owned or official?
If it was official it would have as many players in it as welcome lounge i think, btw do ex habbo x's still have room override?
player. im just curious and also very skeptical. you guys seem to know whats going on so i thought id ask
MKR&*42
16-06-2012, 02:26 PM
If it was official it would have as many players in it as welcome lounge i think, btw do ex habbo x's still have room override?
No, I don't think so. I'm sure that power only came with the official X badge. Why? xD.
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 02:27 PM
No, I don't think so. I'm sure that power only came with the official X badge. Why? xD.
Just wondering how many people are in the welcome lounge as its a private room
MKR&*42
16-06-2012, 02:28 PM
Just wondering how many people are in the welcome lounge as its a private room
Public room, don't you mean? And I think they either increased the room limit of it or it's due to the fact that tour guides can get into locked rooms if called by someone.
lawrawrrr
16-06-2012, 02:29 PM
Just wondering how many people are in the welcome lounge as its a private room
The welcome lounge is official! They put the capacity up to 150 on the day after the mute, down to 140 again now. No overrides though.
Looks like OshKosh is just trying to get visitors...
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 02:29 PM
Public room, don't you mean? And I think they either increased the room limit of it or it's due to the fact that tour guides can get into locked rooms if called by someone.
There not public rooms are they though? Arn't they just edited private rooms nowdays?
Oh is that true? Didn't know that
MKR&*42
16-06-2012, 02:31 PM
There not public rooms are they though? Arn't they just edited private rooms nowdays?
Oh is that true? Didn't know that
Let's just say official rooms to make it easier xD. I always presumed private rooms were those owned by players not staff. The welcome lounge has "no owner" so I'd call it official/public.
FlyingJesus
16-06-2012, 02:39 PM
Why did they change the public rooms? They're well minging now espesh Lido
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 02:50 PM
Why did they change the public rooms? They're well minging now espesh Lido
was when they updated to flash i think stoner
Jarkie
16-06-2012, 03:18 PM
If it was official it would have as many players in it as welcome lounge i think, btw do ex habbo x's still have room override?
No We don't. that power only came with our old badges. :)
Logandyer45
16-06-2012, 05:11 PM
Hey Habbos!
I have been doing some talking to a mod on Habbo, and he tells me if the plans go right, the mute with the hotel will be lifted by next Friday! Sorry if a Mod is gonna merge this post somewhere else. :)
Threads merged by Jordan (Forum Super Moderator): As on same topic
iBlueBox
16-06-2012, 05:13 PM
How could you be talking with a mod if everyones all muted?
Also what would be the point on mods lately as no one can talk :P
Also, evidence ssh as a screen shot?
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 05:15 PM
Highly doubtful and if it comes off before then expect a -rep for spreading rumours :)
Just so you know... The MOD's dont even know, it comes from much higher up.
Im pretty bored of people trying to say that they know when we will be unmuted... also MOD's aint allowed to chat via C4H and only give auto replys anyway.
Michael
16-06-2012, 05:20 PM
Sorry, don't believe this lol.
Michael
16-06-2012, 05:25 PM
Looking at these videos on youtube lol look at some of these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VXNEq68PVg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGhrszvuxyU&feature=related
Xedia
16-06-2012, 05:33 PM
How could you be talking with a mod if everyones all muted?
Also what would be the point on mods lately as no one can talk :P
Also, evidence ssh as a screen shot?
This lol.
Jordan
16-06-2012, 05:35 PM
If you wanted to take part in that debate then create a 1 minute video on youtube to these questions and tweet that habbodebatec4
What are your thoughts about how to improve online safety?
Why is a site like Habbo so important to you? What do you think about the issues raised in our report?
But if your under 18 then for them to show it on the news you'll need parental permission. When it's on news depends on the world affairs after videos are posted.
David
16-06-2012, 05:38 PM
How could you be talking with a mod if everyones all muted?
Also what would be the point on mods lately as no one can talk :P
Also, evidence ssh as a screen shot?
This lol.
I haven't checked, but I'm pretty sure the chat features in the friends list still works? I saw screenshots the other day of them
Michael
16-06-2012, 05:42 PM
I haven't checked, but I'm pretty sure the chat features in the friends list still works? I saw screenshots the other day of them
Private message does not work now :(
JustinNewcastle
16-06-2012, 05:43 PM
Um, no. It doesn't.
lawrawrrr
16-06-2012, 05:43 PM
Next friday?
Can you prove this please, or none of us are actually going to believe.
Every form of talking on Habbo has been removed. mottos ect ect
Michael
16-06-2012, 05:51 PM
Every form of talking on Habbo has been removed. mottos ect ect
https://www.habbo.com/profile to change motto
Logandyer45
16-06-2012, 06:14 PM
I was talking to a MOD via Skype kfhanx. I have the chatlogs if you despertly need em. PM me if you want em.
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 06:14 PM
I was talking to a MOD via Skype kfhanx. I have the chatlogs if you despertly need em. PM me if you want em.
PM me them....
Logandyer45
16-06-2012, 06:22 PM
PM me them....
There, I did.
xxMATTGxx
16-06-2012, 06:23 PM
I was talking to a MOD via Skype kfhanx. I have the chatlogs if you despertly need em. PM me if you want em.
I doubt that - You are probably being told a ton of lies. Sulake Staff or MOD's would never talk to people like that via Skype or MSN. PM me as well if you don't mind.
Michael
16-06-2012, 06:23 PM
I was talking to a MOD via Skype kfhanx. I have the chatlogs if you despertly need em. PM me if you want em.
PM me them.
lawrawrrr
16-06-2012, 06:26 PM
There, I did.
Can I see them as well please?
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 06:28 PM
[1:08:04 PM] Logan - DJ LoganD HxL: Mr. Mod
[1:08:14 PM] Logan - DJ LoganD HxL: When will this Mute be over with?
[1:08:53 PM] MOD-Jason On Habbo.com <3 x Any Questions just ask away: before friday of next week hopefully if our plans go to plan
[1:09:15 PM] Logan - DJ LoganD HxL: Mkay! Fhanx.\
[1:09:26 PM] MOD-Jason On Habbo.com <3 x Any Questions just ask away: My Pleasure sir.
[2:14:48 PM] Logan - DJ LoganD HxL: So, what are the plans for Habbo?
[2:15:27 PM] MOD-Jason On Habbo.com <3 x Any Questions just ask away: making a stronger moderation team and tightening up the security
[2:16:12 PM] Logan - DJ LoganD HxL: Hmm, well, maybe they shouldn't have moved the USA office to Finnland.
[2:16:52 PM] MOD-Jason On Habbo.com <3 x Any Questions just ask away: Thats true, well im in the UK One at the minute. sorting out all the stuff for the Big Unmute.
[2:17:41 PM] Logan - DJ LoganD HxL: Well, lets hope the unmute happenes by next Friday.
[2:17:55 PM] MOD-Jason On Habbo.com <3 x Any Questions just ask away: Hopefully if our plans go to plan.
[2:19:05 PM] Logan - DJ LoganD HxL: So, are you in the office right now?
[2:19:13 PM] MOD-Jason On Habbo.com <3 x Any Questions just ask away: i am indeed
[2:20:10 PM] Logan - DJ LoganD HxL: Well. That's cool.
[2:20:21 PM] Logan - DJ LoganD HxL: You on Habbo?
[2:20:27 PM] MOD-Jason On Habbo.com <3 x Any Questions just ask away: Yeah, Pretty big place to be honest also.
[2:20:53 PM] MOD-Jason On Habbo.com <3 x Any Questions just ask away: and not at the moment trying to Do some moderation stuff what paul has got us to do :(
[2:21:07 PM] Logan - DJ LoganD HxL: Oh.
[2:21:21 PM] MOD-Jason On Habbo.com <3 x Any Questions just ask away: Hes got us to do a whole new reseme
For others to read, obviously a fake as mod's wouldn't admit that nor mainly would they take to Habbo's specially not atm
Logandyer45
16-06-2012, 06:30 PM
I guess he's not a mod. Oh well. Sorry. I thought he was.
xxMATTGxx
16-06-2012, 06:30 PM
For others to read, obviously a fake as mod's wouldn't admit that nor mainly would they take to Habbo's specially not atm
Mod-Jason - No such user on Habbo by the looks of things. Plus they wouldn't use such services to add people from Habbo at all. People have pretended to be staff on msn and skype for many many years. Just another one of those cases!
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 06:32 PM
I said this to Logan, there isn't even a MOD-Jason...
Xedia
16-06-2012, 06:33 PM
LOL, at this. They don't even use the MOD- tag now do they?
Logandyer45
16-06-2012, 06:33 PM
xxMATTGxx Can you delete my post about the rumor about the mute on page 156?
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 06:35 PM
LOL, at this. They don't even use the MOD- tag now do they?
Yeh think they do :P
lawrawrrr
16-06-2012, 06:36 PM
Awkward.... did you fall for it or just try and spread rumours?
Even if it was true, mods are far too busy to be talking to players with the whole uproar ;;
Xedia
16-06-2012, 06:39 PM
Yeh think they do :P
Oh http://i.imgur.com/IExV3.gif I thought they just kept with badges now, my bad =]
MKR&*42
16-06-2012, 06:43 PM
Oh http://i.imgur.com/IExV3.gif I thought they just kept with badges now, my bad =]
They do xD It's just the fact you don't see them on the hotel. Puhekupla has a consistent list of MOD-'s from hotels:
http://puhekupla.com/en/staff (Stay in the Sulake section and scroll down, that's where all the moderators are). Although a few on there don't have the MOD- tag apparently xD.
MOD-Daguil
MOD-Cyeann
MOD-SAMURA121 :ll
Choremet
Stum
Are just a few on there for .com xD. But yeah, they'd all have the staff badge I presume.
iBlueBox
16-06-2012, 06:50 PM
A bit obvious it was fake,
- Wh would they contact users or even use Skype,
the main reason showing it was fake,
The English was too good.
Xedia
16-06-2012, 07:01 PM
They do xD It's just the fact you don't see them on the hotel. Puhekupla has a consistent list of MOD-'s from hotels:
http://puhekupla.com/en/staff (Stay in the Sulake section and scroll down, that's where all the moderators are). Although a few on there don't have the MOD- tag apparently xD.
MOD-Daguil
MOD-Cyeann
MOD-SAMURA121 :ll
Choremet
Stum
Are just a few on there for .com xD. But yeah, they'd all have the staff badge I presume.
I knew they still had the badge :P I just thought they didn't use the MOD- tag any more for their user names but apparently they do :)
Michael
16-06-2012, 07:04 PM
Ugh, this is so annoying - unmute already, no need for any 'big event' to unmute the hotel. Its not like the hotels been muted for the past 5 years!
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 07:08 PM
Doubt we will be unmuted untill monday tbh, weekends they don't do anything
cameron354
16-06-2012, 07:15 PM
I knew they still had the badge :P I just thought they didn't use the MOD- tag any more for their user names but apparently they do :)
A while ago on Twitter someone suggested to Paul La Fontaine about using the MOD- Prefix again. It got implemented after that. Anyway it's crap now that the Mods don't even enter the client. Before the merge they used to answer CFH's from inside the hotel and not housekeeping, also they used to actually goto rooms looking for inappropriate behavior. Now they just seem like robots.
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 07:17 PM
A while ago on Twitter someone suggested to Paul La Fontaine about using the MOD- Prefix again. It got implemented after that. Anyway it's crap now that the Mods don't even enter the client. Before the merge they used to answer CFH's from inside the hotel and not housekeeping, also they used to actually goto rooms looking for inappropriate behavior. Now they just seem like robots.
Mod's don't have HK do they? Thought it was only actual internal staff?
Michael
16-06-2012, 07:21 PM
Laughing at how this 'MOD Jason' has a twitter
https://twitter.com/#!/HABBOMODJason
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 07:24 PM
He even stole my soul;
http://www.mindistortion.tv/iwantyoursoul/?i_am=MOD-Jason
MOD-Jason is a ******* legend
MKR&*42
16-06-2012, 07:26 PM
Mod's don't have HK do they? Thought it was only actual internal staff?
I'd presume so^. Because MODs can ban yet not unban, I'd think that you'd need to have housekeeping to unban (which is for Customer Support staff). But then again, if Mods don't use/go on the hotel to ban people I'm sure they'd need to have housekeeping? Funny how little we know about Mods these days lol.
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 07:26 PM
mod's can unban, just arn't meant to i think. i saw something posted a few months ago about a acidental ban and the mod unbanned him 5 mins later.
orientalframe?
16-06-2012, 07:29 PM
yeah i thought mods could unban too
MKR&*42
16-06-2012, 07:30 PM
mod's can unban, just arn't meant to i think. i saw something posted a few months ago about a acidental ban and the mod unbanned him 5 mins later.
Oh yeah I remember that now xD. I presume they would have housekeeping then if they needed to unban.
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 07:31 PM
Oh yeah I remember that now xD. I presume they would have housekeeping then if they needed to unban.
or there's another way, i guess
MKR&*42
16-06-2012, 07:34 PM
or there's another way, i guess
I can't think of a way in-client, I'd imagine it'd be extremely difficult to try do it in-client. On a webpage I can't possibly think of a different way, there might be and maybe no-one's heard of it I guess xD.
J-Raviv; Why didn't you ask Tallespin this before she got made redundant? ;l
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 07:35 PM
To be fair Habbo hasn't been "Hacked" like it used to for ages, there getting more protective now and all the old "hackers" have left
Michael
16-06-2012, 07:38 PM
Just been private messaged on twitter by Channel 4 if i'd like to do a vid-diary about whats happening in Habbo, apparently I need to get parental permission if under 18 - not going to do a 'vid-diary' though :P
lawrawrrr
16-06-2012, 07:39 PM
I'd be too nervous incase they used it on tv?
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 07:39 PM
Just been private messaged on twitter by Channel 4 if i'd like to do a vid-diary about whats happening in Habbo, apparently I need to get parental permission if under 18 - not going to do a 'vid-diary' though :P
Screenshot it?
Michael
16-06-2012, 07:40 PM
Screenshot it?
Sure - 5 mins.
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 07:41 PM
Interesting, did they not incl pay :P
Xedia
16-06-2012, 07:44 PM
Just been private messaged on twitter by Channel 4 if i'd like to do a vid-diary about whats happening in Habbo, apparently I need to get parental permission if under 18 - not going to do a 'vid-diary' though :P
If you mention anything positive they wont use it, or they'll just cut it out. :rolleyes:
Michael
16-06-2012, 07:46 PM
Screenshot it?
http://oi50.tinypic.com/1gkvie.jpg
EDIT: Yes they probably do need it for TV.
lTraditional
16-06-2012, 07:47 PM
I'd do it for money, what would habbo do? I would want to stay anonymous though.
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 07:50 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/Habboc4debate
doesnt work anymore o.O
Michael
16-06-2012, 07:53 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/Habboc4debate
doesnt work anymore o.O
https://twitter.com/#!/HabbodebateC4
Jordan
16-06-2012, 07:54 PM
They were asking me too over DM earlier too and if you do one theres the chance it will be on tv hence the parental permission.
If you wanted to take part in that debate then create a 1 minute video on youtube to these questions and tweet that habbodebatec4
What are your thoughts about how to improve online safety?
Why is a site like Habbo so important to you? What do you think about the issues raised in our report?
But if your under 18 then for them to show it on the news you'll need parental permission. When it's on news depends on the world affairs after videos are posted.
MODs dont add people on Skype and thats pretty much a fact...
And we dont have any mods from uk/america/canada/australia they tend to be from .sg still or i heard from costa rica so LOL
Mrdeano2008
16-06-2012, 08:39 PM
I think it's all just a load of crap.
Un-mute now - grow up.
mod's can unban, just arn't meant to i think. i saw something posted a few months ago about a acidental ban and the mod unbanned him 5 mins later.
Yeah its true MOD's can unban but most dont tend to do it.
I was banned around 6 months ago for giving out my facebook link, and i was banned for it because someone reported it as porn.. i went on another account sent a C4H and told them it must of been a mistake, they told me to sign in to my banned account in 5 mins and it would be unbanned, and so i did and i was unbanned :)
Swearwolf
16-06-2012, 08:49 PM
Even i'm on habbo... so many memories
osvaldod
16-06-2012, 09:11 PM
my vip just expired :@ should i buy a month because on twitter @habbo said about vips been compensated :/ and does pixel memorial worth it ?????? :)
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 09:20 PM
my vip just expired :@ should i buy a month because on twitter @habbo said about vips been compensated :/ and does pixel memorial worth it ?????? :)
Think they'l give us 7-10 days vip for free tbh and its like 6c profit
lawrawrrr
16-06-2012, 09:30 PM
my vip just expired :@ should i buy a month because on twitter @habbo said about vips been compensated :/ and does pixel memorial worth it ?????? :)
i bought a pixel thing just for the nostalgia, maybe it'll go up again soon, we'll see!!
Toilet
16-06-2012, 09:34 PM
LOL, at this. They don't even use the MOD- tag now do they?
Some don't.
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 09:35 PM
I seem to be having a arguement on twitter with mr mod-jason
Xedia
16-06-2012, 10:02 PM
I seem to be having a arguement on twitter with mr mod-jason
Please do share http://i.imgur.com/fj3Va.png
GoldenMerc
16-06-2012, 10:04 PM
Please do share http://i.imgur.com/fj3Va.png
http://twitter.com/#!/HABBOMODJason
Xedia
16-06-2012, 10:07 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/HABBOMODJason
Urgh, I think he's starting to believe his own lies.
@RossJenkins1 @paullafo You may not be in Sulake office in London.. But i sure am.. as part of what we do is on the 3rd floor of sulake
Oh btw, you might wanna tell him his office is on the 2nd floor. http://www.sulake.com/contact/local-offices/
Not been keeping up with this but https://twitter.com/#!/HabbodebateC4 - LOL, this has awful/trouble written all over it!!
Also quick Q - Puhekupla site lists Jet as still working for the company, does anyone know is this the same Jet who has been there since 2006/2007??
lawrawrrr
16-06-2012, 10:23 PM
Urgh, I think he's starting to believe his own lies.
Oh btw, you might wanna tell him his office is on the 2nd floor. http://www.sulake.com/contact/local-offices/
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL +REP
no way would a mod get involved in such a petty little debate.
Very VERY unlikely anyway.
lTraditional
16-06-2012, 10:27 PM
Moderators aren't rude to Habbo users and don't swear at them. He is obviously a fake. His grammar is terrible as well. Oh and he just got his final tweet wrong. He is a big fail.
-:Undertaker:-
16-06-2012, 10:34 PM
Why is there a poll asking whether to shut down a private site which has not committed any crime? and more to the point, why have 30% odd overlooked this?
Jordy
16-06-2012, 11:51 PM
Why is there a poll asking whether to shut down a private site which has not committed any crime? and more to the point, why have 30% odd overlooked this?I agree, who created such a ridiculous poll? They're hardly going to decide on its future based on a HabboxForum thread.
GommeInc
16-06-2012, 11:52 PM
Why is there a poll asking whether to shut down a private site which has not committed any crime? and more to the point, why have 30% odd overlooked this?
Mostly personal dislike for my vote. Can't stand corporations who enter a market or work in a particular industry and do a sub-par job. It was good in the past when they clearly enjoyed their jobs, but these days they prefer to be unaccountable and distant from their users.
Obviously they've not broken any rules, and they can't be liable if they did create a rather impossible to work with law. The law breaking is purely on the one that actually breaks the law (e.g. the rare occurence of a paedophile).
dannyboymed
16-06-2012, 11:52 PM
This is ridiculous. I'm not sure whether to blame Habbo's higher-ups for totally messing up the moderation system, or tabloid journalism for blowing this way out of proportion.
So I'll blame them both.
October
17-06-2012, 04:20 AM
I can't think of a way in-client, I'd imagine it'd be extremely difficult to try do it in-client. On a webpage I can't possibly think of a different way, there might be and maybe no-one's heard of it I guess xD.
@J-Raviv (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=34302); Why didn't you ask Tallespin this before she got made redundant? ;l
Ask her what?
Perfected
17-06-2012, 05:01 AM
I'm really just wondering if there actually is a plan in place at this time over at Sulake. To be honest, Habbo had a little more freedom now than I remember way back & I actually enjoyed that.
CatFlaps
17-06-2012, 05:36 AM
Seriously what is going on... if they're going to unmute us then do it but why are they keep saying 'More info on the great unmute coming soon' when they're not telling us anything except from the fact that 'The great unmute' is coming... If theyre going to unmute us soon, then unmute us but they should stop giving us false hope that it will happen soon when their are no signs of it happening anywhere near now...
Toilet
17-06-2012, 06:27 AM
Reported a user with an inappropriate name the other day. Mod's response was something like this: "Click on the other user and press the "Mute" button". Who writes this stuff?
Reported a user with an inappropriate name the other day. Mod's response was something like this: "Click on the other user and press the "Mute" button". Who writes this stuff?
Outsourced foreigners?
edit: I actually had visions of a moderator looking through a moderating guide to find a solution to your problem :P
Okeanos
17-06-2012, 11:32 AM
is @HABBOdebatec4 fake? i got the impression the habbo story had run its course, it hasnt been mentioned on the news for a while
Not been keeping up with this but https://twitter.com/#!/HabbodebateC4 (https://twitter.com/#%21/HabbodebateC4) - LOL, this has awful/trouble written all over it!!
Also quick Q - Puhekupla site lists Jet as still working for the company, does anyone know is this the same Jet who has been there since 2006/2007??
o is this bob bob? HIA! are you trying to get your job back? ;)
Xedia
17-06-2012, 11:44 AM
is @HABBOdebatec4 fake?
No
i got the impression the habbo story had run its course, it hasnt been mentioned on the news for a while
It has, but it's news remember, always trying to drain the last little bit out of every story.
is @HABBOdebatec4 fake? i got the impression the habbo story had run its course, it hasnt been mentioned on the news for a while
o is this bob bob? HIA! are you trying to get your job back? ;)
Heeyy ;) I got bored of not being able to chat/rant.
Haha no, I left a company that was leading the way in terms of online safety I have no desire to join a sinking ship! Though like a few others I have been asked to take part in the C4 debate as an ex-staffer, the slightly frustrating news guy has been tweeting me, I wont be making an appearance I wouldn't want to ruin the illusion that I'm not actually a red-headed cross dresser with a taste for hooker-esq clothing.
xxMATTGxx
17-06-2012, 12:33 PM
Hope the Habbo community are still shining through this tough time, we have a big week coming up :)
https://twitter.com/Fansites_Jason/status/214328797833596928
scottish
17-06-2012, 12:51 PM
Habbos, The Great Unmute starts a series of steps to reintroduce safe social interactions to the community. Safety is the priority. Thanks!
pauls twitta
PiippBB
17-06-2012, 01:11 PM
Info coming in now via Paul's Twitter. Unmute starts this coming week and will see social interactions introduced one at a time:
@PaulLaFo Do you mean that Habbo will bring back communication one way at a time? (Guestbook, then forums, then client?)
@Brad_no That is correct Brandon. Good insight.
Bout time really but I'm a bit disappointed in that I'm pretty sure the client will be last. :( I imagine it'll involve them unlocking one new feature a day for the whole week, and having us take part in the quizzes which have already been found to enable us each to individually use them. Not sure really, but's that kinda what I'm guessing at. It does however mean that if the client is last, hopefully C4 will have started to play down the hype.
scottish
17-06-2012, 01:17 PM
hopefully they stop ******* about and just unmute the client first
who gives a **** about guestbook, forums, etc.
GoldenMerc
17-06-2012, 01:18 PM
Defiantly not un-muted today, bit sad
PiippBB
17-06-2012, 01:20 PM
To be fair by unlocking the minor features first it gives them more time to test the new moderation for the client and ensure it's safe (or as safe as safe can be on the internet) whilst giving the impression that they're actually doing something about the mute. I'd rather them do it this way than leave it another week just saying 'soon' and giving us next to no news (as has been the case this last week) then unlocking everything at once. At least this way it actually feels like we're making some progress and actually getting somewhere.
scottish
17-06-2012, 01:22 PM
then **** the guestbook/forums leave then muted and don't bother about the moderation on it
work on client moderation and unmute client then in 5 months for all 90% of habbo give a **** work on the guestbook/forums.
Andii
17-06-2012, 01:43 PM
Got a direct message from the channel 4 thing well this shows it just
http://i49.tinypic.com/15d5tzs.png
Threads merged by Jordan (Forum Super Moderator): As both on same topic
lTraditional
17-06-2012, 01:45 PM
Got a direct message from the channel 4 thing well this shows it just
http://i49.tinypic.com/15d5tzs.png
Is this actually a real thing or someone just faking it to become popular?
O can you just tweet views because I didn't really want to make a video diary. I hope its just online and not on tv. You just know this whole debate idea is a recipe for disaster.
Andii
17-06-2012, 01:50 PM
Is this actually a real thing or someone just faking it to become popular?
not sure they said that it was an official Channel4 twitter account and also Channel 4 staff have tweeted about them aswell as habbo staff
Jordan
17-06-2012, 01:50 PM
I was DMing him yesterday for an hour or so and he said the same thing.
Red; you can still tweet him but I'm not sure if you will need to make a video diary just to get your views across. I did ask him if I could just post my views and he can read out some on a piece of paper but nothing was really said about that. And I believe it will be shown on TV again sometime as he said to Andy and me it depends on whats news.
lawrawrrr
17-06-2012, 01:55 PM
Is that a real c4 account? It's really silly asking Habbo's for a proper debate, as, at the end of the day, they're children... and most children won't be able to actually have a mature debate, but start screaming 'C4 DIE C4 SUCKS C4 ARE PAEDOS'...
If it were real, then it's basically trying to get more gossip, as they couldn't find anything while the hotel's been muted.
Andii
17-06-2012, 02:10 PM
Is that a real c4 account? It's really silly asking Habbo's for a proper debate, as, at the end of the day, they're children... and most children won't be able to actually have a mature debate, but start screaming 'C4 DIE C4 SUCKS C4 ARE PAEDOS'...
If it were real, then it's basically trying to get more gossip, as they couldn't find anything while the hotel's been muted.
I agree completely with this. Pray they attack Habbo and all because of a story then when it gets muted they can't find a story no more so they prefer to get other news instead or else open a debate about things
lawrawrrr
17-06-2012, 02:11 PM
I agree completely with this. Pray they attack Habbo and all because of a story then when it gets muted they can't find a story no more so they prefer to get other news instead or else open a debate about things
Yeah, if the hotel WASN'T muted they'd be reporting on the stupid things some kids say, this way they get tons of people going straight to them - so they don't miss a shocking statement, bringing more bad press!!!
lTraditional
17-06-2012, 02:21 PM
Paul even tweeted that the mute won't happen for fathers day so I guess it is tomorrow.
GoldenMerc
17-06-2012, 02:22 PM
Paul even tweeted that the mute won't happen for fathers day so I guess it is tomorrow.
Yeh i thought there may have been a chance with all the updates today but guess not
lawrawrrr
17-06-2012, 02:23 PM
Fair enough he's spending the day with his family, didn't he say! Hopefully Monday then ;)
GoldenMerc
17-06-2012, 02:27 PM
Fair enough he's spending the day with his family, didn't he say! Hopefully Monday then ;)
Think he said that yesterday :P
PiippBB
17-06-2012, 02:35 PM
I feel pretty sure they will start the unmute campaign tomorrow. I would expect by this time next week we'll be completely unmuted, I can't see them wanting the site 'down' for two weekends in a row.It's understandable nothing is happening today, it is a Sunday after all. And as for this C4 debate; I'd love to make a post on their Twitter about ensuring the people involved are genuinely over 18 and making sure for certain that those that aren't have their parent's permission; wonder how they're gonna go about doing this tbh (it's the same as Habbo, they can't be sure of anyone's real age or if it's really a user's parent they are asking for permission). Also, looking at the post they made about whether it will make the TV or not, I don't think it will. It's quite obvious Greece are gonna leave the Euro and this is gonna give them tonnes of material for the next week, at least. I honestly see this whole Habbo debate on there dying down now and being left to rot on the website (for the near future at least, I can see them revisiting it in a few months time to see if the improvements on the hotel have worked).
Andii
17-06-2012, 02:44 PM
Yeah, if the hotel WASN'T muted they'd be reporting on the stupid things some kids say, this way they get tons of people going straight to them - so they don't miss a shocking statement, bringing more bad press!!!
So true. The media can be sooo twisted and disgusting its a dog eat dog world out there would hate to be famous tbh couldn't handle the bad media making rumours up
Vause
17-06-2012, 03:49 PM
this whole thing bores me now. it makes us realize how much we miss talking on habbo, lol.
Xedia
17-06-2012, 04:04 PM
Sad thing is, I've been on the whole time it's been muted and I'm still having fun.. Oh god my life is boring
MKR&*42
17-06-2012, 04:10 PM
-Spends all my pixels with about 19 hours to go- oops?
I get quite bored during this mute and boosting is just blurgh. I've gone on now and then to just sit there and make it look like I'm protesting, but I always d/c later xD.
Fifty-Six
17-06-2012, 05:55 PM
I've just been spending time playing SS. There isn't really a whole lot to do otherwise.
Xedia
17-06-2012, 06:11 PM
Got my achievement score up to 3005 and I'm nearly finished the skateboard achievements :D So it hasn't been a complete waste of time.
vito201-:D
17-06-2012, 06:17 PM
youre trying to punish C4 for exposing very real problems with habbo? lmfao go back to runescape little boy, or better yet read a few books and learn how the real world works.
No, I'm trying to get them to tell their viewers that the WHOLE internet is unsafe... not just that a specific, actually quite well moderated, MMOCC is the issue...
I think what C4 did might have made the internet less safe for kids... if their parents think Habbo specifically is the issue and block the site for their kids - their kids will then find another MMOCC/RPG will they not?... And honestly, most MMOCC/RPGs are more unsafe and less moderated than Habbo.
I am not a child... and I haven't played RuneScape in years to be honest.
- Alex (Shenk/Vito201).
Uhm, they already know what has gone in from the News Report, hence why they may try sign up to the website? It just makes it more obvious that that stuff is happening when they mute users.
The mute is not to punish the habbos, it is so people who have seen the news reports dont make an account and see that the things in the news are going on and then more news reports would come out and more chance of habbo shutting down, it would seem like habbo had done nothing about the problem
Uhm, they already know what has gone in from the News Report, hence why they may try sign up to the website? It just makes it more obvious that that stuff is happening when they mute users.
Yes they do already know it but if they made an account then other newspapers or channels would see it and there would be more reports = more scandals, they would get more shocking stories and there would be even more complaints etc
xxMATTGxx
17-06-2012, 08:35 PM
@KevKev379 asked what form of communication restored first. We think your existing friends are important, so we start there... (leak)..
https://twitter.com/PaulLaFo/status/214456147632074752
Xedia
17-06-2012, 08:36 PM
PM being restored first? :D
Michael
17-06-2012, 08:55 PM
Did any fansite owners recieve a email? Habbo.es seems to think so!
lawrawrrr
17-06-2012, 08:59 PM
woooo pm system!!
PiippBB
17-06-2012, 09:06 PM
Oh good, at least with PM we can do most things. Trading will return as you can just add the shop owner to discuss your purchase then delete them. I wonder however when the events system will be back. Oh well, at least we'll be able to speak to our friends again. Hopefully they'll roll this out tomorrow and then start unlocking more on Tuesday. I would imagine, and I may be wrong, that they'll probably unlock one type of interaction each day this week giving them 24 hours to ensure each new moderation system works on each individual interaction in the hotel itself, rather than just their test client. Of course this is all speculation and could be completely wrong. I personally think 'the great unmute' will start as soon as the pixel event has finished. Maybe we will even have a counter on HV to show each interaction being unlocked?
Xedia
17-06-2012, 09:08 PM
Oh good, at least with PM we can do most things. Trading will return as you can just add the shop owner to discuss your purchase then delete them. I wonder however when the events system will be back. Oh well, at least we'll be able to speak to our friends again. Hopefully they'll roll this out tomorrow and then start unlocking more on Tuesday. I would imagine, and I may be wrong, that they'll probably unlock one type of interaction each day this week giving them 24 hours to ensure each new moderation system works on each individual interaction in the hotel itself, rather than just their test client. Of course this is all speculation and could be completely wrong. I personally think 'the great unmute' will start as soon as the pixel event has finished. Maybe we will even have a counter on HV to show each interaction being unlocked?
I think Paul tweeted that this was what was going to happen, but he said that homes and gb's would come first, glad it's PM though :D
xxMATTGxx
17-06-2012, 09:12 PM
Did any fansite owners recieve a email? Habbo.es seems to think so!
Nothing here at the moment.
Michael
17-06-2012, 09:17 PM
Nothing here at the moment.
Strange, the fansite habbos.es wrote this:
We never thought that a Sunday we would get a mail from Sulake , you know, not usually work. Yet this problem of mute generally recognized that they themselves are working very hard even weekend. Let us say in your email: First and foremost, we emphasize that they are very sad about what happened and even thought that up close Habbo Hotel. We have a lot of users have left the official game and have moved to retro (from members tell you that this is NOT the solution, these web pages threaten your network security and are illegal because they take advantage and profit from the work of others without permission, so if you find one, it is best to denuncies what habbo ). The Spanish legal assistant and has begun taking legal action with some of these copies of Habbo. Now, the important part. As a result of all this, it is possible that many of the plans for the future had to be brought to light as soon as possible, possibly this week. What are the things we might see? Some or several of these: All interface Illumina One last game we all miss (we suspect it is the Battle Ball ) A lot of new accessories (bracelets, necklaces, rings) More signs so you can talk when you're muted. It put more filters on words. More bots profitable for your room. will be more in touch with parents. Haran meeting weekly with parents . A new Habbo Way where you will have to agree when you sign. no doubt are many changes that if they get all this week, will make a boom in the hotel. In addition to all you good news, tell us that from now on will have more contact with the police in the U.S., Germany and many other countries to improve the hotel security. We recommend you follow the web every minute between now and tomorrow, these changes may occur from one moment to another and you have to be here to find out everything. We are at a critical time.
http://www.habbos.es/news/6769
- Translated from spanish to english via google translate
xxMATTGxx
17-06-2012, 09:22 PM
Strange, the fansite habbos.es wrote this:
http://www.habbos.es/news/6769
- Translated from spanish to english via google translate
That is strange, as fansites is normally controlled by Jason and then emails all go out at once.
lawrawrrr
17-06-2012, 09:25 PM
Strange, the fansite habbos.es wrote this:
http://www.habbos.es/news/6769
- Translated from spanish to english via google translate
That's mainly just the 'PLANNED' stuff from the uservoice?
Andii
17-06-2012, 09:26 PM
https://twitter.com/PaulLaFo/status/214456147632074752
can't see that as he has blocked me PMSLLLLLLL
Nice to see Paul takes a day off to spend with his dad instead of fixing the damn problem. Useless. How much is he on? Seriously, fire him.
Xedia
17-06-2012, 09:43 PM
Nice to see Paul takes a day off to spend with his dad instead of fixing the damn problem. Useless. How much is he on? Seriously, fire him.
He's told his staff members what to do and they are doing it.. Your saying just because he's a CEO he can't take one day off to spend it with his father on fathers day..
xxMATTGxx
17-06-2012, 09:48 PM
Nice to see Paul takes a day off to spend with his dad instead of fixing the damn problem. Useless. How much is he on? Seriously, fire him.
Considering he is one man and that it is the weekend, why do you expect him to work every single day? Sulake have other staff members who would actually be putting these changes into Habbo and not Paul himself. He would at most just be telling them what to do.
PiippBB
17-06-2012, 10:20 PM
I think Paul's entitled to the day off tbh; it's a Sunday so most people are off anyway, whether they are CEOs or not. It sounds as though there are other Sulake staff working on things today anyway (which I do find unusual as it's a Sunday) so fair enough. Paul's main duty there is to keep the investors happy anyway and sign things off (and in weeks like this, organise crisis meetings and put emergency plans into action which I think he has spent most of the week doing, and it looks like these changes are being implemented by the other staff now anyway, I doubt he knows how to code, it's not really his job). There's probably not a look for him to do whilst the changes are being pushed into action, but at least he's kept us up to date via his Twitter and given us some good news today, about the mute being lifted this coming week and details on what will happen. I think he's done a good job this week but really the proof will be in the pudding; we'll all find out how good a job he has done once we're unmuted and can see the new moderation and safety changes implemented.
Jordy
17-06-2012, 10:40 PM
I think Paul's entitled to the day off tbh; it's a Sunday so most people are off anyway, whether they are CEOs or not. It sounds as though there are other Sulake staff working on things today anyway (which I do find unusual as it's a Sunday) so fair enough. Paul's main duty there is to keep the investors happy anyway and sign things off (and in weeks like this, organise crisis meetings and put emergency plans into action which I think he has spent most of the week doing, and it looks like these changes are being implemented by the other staff now anyway, I doubt he knows how to code, it's not really his job). There's probably not a look for him to do whilst the changes are being pushed into action, but at least he's kept us up to date via his Twitter and given us some good news today, about the mute being lifted this coming week and details on what will happen. I think he's done a good job this week but really the proof will be in the pudding; we'll all find out how good a job he has done once we're unmuted and can see the new moderation and safety changes implemented.Well like you say, the CEOs job is to keep the investors happy and seeing as they've all pulled the chord due to a poor response from the management team I think it's fair to say he's a shocking CEO. I'm by no means saying he's the worst CEO in history like others but it is pretty much a categoric fact that he has failed as CEO to keep his investors happy. He has lost two enormous shareholders who are multi-million pound investment firms with incomes of around £500m. 3i has invested £35million in Sulake in the past few years alone and together they make up 26% of Sulake, I believe the rest of Sulake is owned by its founders, current staff and PaulLaFo even has shares in it (quite typical for a CEO). All this information is readily available on economic news websites btw.
To conclude at the end of the week, Habbo are almost pulling it back. Sulake deserved the criticism and hounding by the media. It was an incredibly successful piece of investigative journalism by Channel 4, it interested an awful lot of people and their investigative journalism rarely reaches other newspapers in the UK nevermind across the world and the BBC. As well as this it has also trended on Twitter for all the wrong reasons and like I have already pointed out, 2 important investors have pulled out and 3 retailers have stopped their support of Habbo. So yes Channel 4 has done very well here.
Sulake responded slowly and for that PaulLafo deserves blame, they were informed a week ago of what was going to happen but then waited until the report itself before doing anything. This slow response is entirely Paul's fault as the face of Sulake in the media and on the board he could of implemented measures beforehand and calmed investors as a result. He deserves all the criticism he gets for this. The bitterness on his Twitter account has also been very juvenile and questionable at times.
However he should not be blamed for the issues at hand, he has indeed only been in the job around 10 months and most the decline in Habbo's standards occurred a year or two before his time. A great CEO would of course know everything going on within his company but I think it's fair to say the problems at hand were caused by his predecessors who cut savagely without thinking. None of them could of ever expected this backlash from the media as Habbo has rarely been in the news in the past 11 years.
The mute was a good move I think it's fair to say. Of course it's not popular but it's not permanent and it shows Sulake are determined to get it right for the future of Habbo and to protect its users which is vital. The mute was the best possible response, it's better than shutting the Hotel entirely and it wasn't really feasible to allow people to keep chatting. The media could build up a bigger case against them, the bad behaviour of users could continue and it would show complete ignorance to the bad press they received.
All in all Sulake deserved the mess they got in, they were slow to respond but once they eventually did, the mute was definitely the right move and it looks like the gradual method of reintroducing an "unmute" with safer precautions than before is the right way to sort this issue once and for all and receive positive press.
Just-One
17-06-2012, 10:44 PM
Where are the Hobba's when you need them? :)
PiippBB
17-06-2012, 11:03 PM
Well like you say, the CEOs job is to keep the investors happy and seeing as they've all pulled the chord due to a poor response from the management team I think it's fair to say he's a shocking CEO. I'm by no means saying he's the worst CEO in history like others but it is pretty much a categoric fact that he has failed as CEO to keep his investors happy. He has lost two enormous shareholders who are multi-million pound investment firms with incomes of around £500m. 3i has invested £35million in Sulake in the past few years alone and together they make up 26% of Sulake, I believe the rest of Sulake is owned by its founders, current staff and PaulLaFo even has shares in it (quite typical for a CEO). All this information is readily available on economic news websites btw.
The first investor to pull pulled out as soon as they were given the information about the C4 news report; a week before it went public. They pulled out there and then, before Sulake had even had a chance to respond. Their leaving had nothing to do with a slow reaction from Sulake, they never gave Sulake a chance to respond.
I also wouldn't say this is Paul's fault. These problems have been building for years now and were well set in by the time Paul took over as CEO a few months ago. Yes, he should have recognised them and sorted them when he came in, and for all we know there were plans in place, but as it stands you can't really blame Paul for the contents of the C4 news report; these were problems the site had been suffering with for years. I actually think he's handled the situation very well. He took the action to mute the hotel, not only giving Sulake time to work on these problems but also preventing the media finding anything else incriminating. He's took time out from his personal time (he's been tweeting well after work hours) to keep us up to date via Twitter (albeit slowly to start with, but at least he's made an effort and kept us somewhat in the loop) and interact with us directly. I can't imagine the CEO of many other companies doing the same thing. To be honest I think he's done quite well. In less capable hands (maybe a CEO who hadn't reacted in such a timely and firm manner) I could imagine this scandal would have nailed the coffin and buried Habbo, but as it stands Habbo's gonna be unmuted this week with great improvements and we're gonna have a much bigger say in what happens in the future. I really get the feeling that Paul actually cares about the users and I think that's important here.
GommeInc
17-06-2012, 11:25 PM
Well like you say, the CEOs job is to keep the investors happy and seeing as they've all pulled the chord due to a poor response from the management team I think it's fair to say he's a shocking CEO. I'm by no means saying he's the worst CEO in history like others but it is pretty much a categoric fact that he has failed as CEO to keep his investors happy. He has lost two enormous shareholders who are multi-million pound investment firms with incomes of around £500m. 3i has invested £35million in Sulake in the past few years alone and together they make up 26% of Sulake, I believe the rest of Sulake is owned by its founders, current staff and PaulLaFo even has shares in it (quite typical for a CEO). All this information is readily available on economic news websites btw.
To conclude at the end of the week, Habbo are almost pulling it back. Sulake deserved the criticism and hounding by the media. It was an incredibly successful piece of investigative journalism by Channel 4, it interested an awful lot of people and their investigative journalism rarely reaches other newspapers in the UK nevermind across the world and the BBC. As well as this it has also trended on Twitter for all the wrong reasons and like I have already pointed out, 2 important investors have pulled out and 3 retailers have stopped their support of Habbo. So yes Channel 4 has done very well here.
Sulake responded slowly and for that PaulLafo deserves blame, they were informed a week ago of what was going to happen but then waited until the report itself before doing anything. This slow response is entirely Paul's fault as the face of Sulake in the media and on the board he could of implemented measures beforehand and calmed investors as a result. He deserves all the criticism he gets for this. The bitterness on his Twitter account has also been very juvenile and questionable at times.
However he should not be blamed for the issues at hand, he has indeed only been in the job around 10 months and most the decline in Habbo's standards occurred a year or two before his time. A great CEO would of course know everything going on within his company but I think it's fair to say the problems at hand were caused by his predecessors who cut savagely without thinking. None of them could of ever expected this backlash from the media as Habbo has rarely been in the news in the past 11 years.
The mute was a good move I think it's fair to say. Of course it's not popular but it's not permanent and it shows Sulake are determined to get it right for the future of Habbo and to protect its users which is vital. The mute was the best possible response, it's better than shutting the Hotel entirely and it wasn't really feasible to allow people to keep chatting. The media could build up a bigger case against them, the bad behaviour of users could continue and it would show complete ignorance to the bad press they received.
All in all Sulake deserved the mess they got in, they were slow to respond but once they eventually did, the mute was definitely the right move and it looks like the gradual method of reintroducing an "unmute" with safer precautions than before is the right way to sort this issue once and for all and receive positive press.
I want your entirely legal e-babies. Such a great post and hits the nail sharply on the head.
Sulake have been living in ignorant bliss, and the report has finally kicked some life in the business. Unfortunately, they have a completely hopeless child for a CEO who can't take criticism of any kind, and will go out of his way to offend and then remove any comments like his tweets and then claim ignorance.
It's shocking he hasn't been given the sack. He's the embodiment of a bad CEO. He's unattractive to investors, didn't recognise the problems until it was too late, was given the chance to change the business but refused to and above all treats his customers with very little respect. The only thing he's got going for him is that he does tell his customers what's happening as some amount of reassurance. He must really be spinning some absolute crap to still have that position :/
lawrawrrr
17-06-2012, 11:28 PM
The first investor to pull pulled out as soon as they were given the information about the C4 news report; a week before it went public. They pulled out there and then, before Sulake had even had a chance to respond. Their leaving had nothing to do with a slow reaction from Sulake, they never gave Sulake a chance to respond.
I also wouldn't say this is Paul's fault. These problems have been building for years now and were well set in by the time Paul took over as CEO a few months ago. Yes, he should have recognised them and sorted them when he came in, and for all we know there were plans in place, but as it stands you can't really blame Paul for the contents of the C4 news report; these were problems the site had been suffering with for years. I actually think he's handled the situation very well. He took the action to mute the hotel, not only giving Sulake time to work on these problems but also preventing the media finding anything else incriminating. He's took time out from his personal time (he's been tweeting well after work hours) to keep us up to date via Twitter (albeit slowly to start with, but at least he's made an effort and kept us somewhat in the loop) and interact with us directly. I can't imagine the CEO of many other companies doing the same thing. To be honest I think he's done quite well. In less capable hands (maybe a CEO who hadn't reacted in such a timely and firm manner) I could imagine this scandal would have nailed the coffin and buried Habbo, but as it stands Habbo's gonna be unmuted this week with great improvements and we're gonna have a much bigger say in what happens in the future. I really get the feeling that Paul actually cares about the users and I think that's important here.
The first investor pulled out surely because they didn't want to be associated with the bad press? Which is fair enough. But they did say Sulake didn't bother to respond to the early preview of the report, they could have made it much better for themselves imo...
Paul as a CEO has generally been good. OK, he's not helped a few things, but he's hardly made them worse. The poll in the Welcome Lounge an the fact he's atm seems to give users a chance to get suggestions across, and he is actually listening to a few, which I think is really good.
PiippBB
18-06-2012, 12:15 AM
The first investor pulled out surely because they didn't want to be associated with the bad press? Which is fair enough. But they did say Sulake didn't bother to respond to the early preview of the report, they could have made it much better for themselves imo...
Paul as a CEO has generally been good. OK, he's not helped a few things, but he's hardly made them worse. The poll in the Welcome Lounge an the fact he's atm seems to give users a chance to get suggestions across, and he is actually listening to a few, which I think is really good.
Yes, I would imagine the first investor would have pulled out no matter what Sulake did to be honest; it's one of those situations; no one wants to be associated with this sort of thing and some companies will just pull no matter the response from those accused. They don't want the bad press rubbing off on them, and lets be honest, who can blame them? I do think Sulake have managed to turn this around though, and if they take their time with this unmute (as much as I want to be able to use chat in the client again, I understand why they've done this and respect that it will take as long as it has to to ensure the younger users of the site are safe) and ensure at each stage that the new safety implementations are working thoroughly then I don't think this will count as a huge disaster. I shouldn't think they're too worried about losing money right now, I think if they were the mute would have ended by now. I think they're more bothered about the way their reputation has been tarnished and will work on trying to rebuild it; if they manage this the money will come along with it anyway, and lets face it, they've got enough gimmicks to make a shed load right now, especially if they start rolling out more LTD Rares. I do think they'll probably rush out some of the features which we would have had slowly trickle in over the summer, such as the new clothes, to entice users to come back and to stick with them despite the mute and to take the spotlight off the mute (I'm not expecting these features to appear until the mute has ended however). New furni and clothes will give users something positive to look at, and, if they're good enough, will probably mostly make people forgive them for the mute.
He's told his staff members what to do and they are doing it.. Your saying just because he's a CEO he can't take one day off to spend it with his father on fathers day..
Considering he is one man and that it is the weekend, why do you expect him to work every single day? Sulake have other staff members who would actually be putting these changes into Habbo and not Paul himself. He would at most just be telling them what to do.
Just saying if I was on 100k a year I'd work everyday :P Its probably the most important thing that has happened to Habbo, he's in charge, so he should be putting the most effort in!
Jordy
18-06-2012, 12:41 AM
The first investor to pull pulled out as soon as they were given the information about the C4 news report; a week before it went public. They pulled out there and then, before Sulake had even had a chance to respond. Their leaving had nothing to do with a slow reaction from Sulake, they never gave Sulake a chance to respond.
I also wouldn't say this is Paul's fault. These problems have been building for years now and were well set in by the time Paul took over as CEO a few months ago. Yes, he should have recognised them and sorted them when he came in, and for all we know there were plans in place, but as it stands you can't really blame Paul for the contents of the C4 news report; these were problems the site had been suffering with for years. I actually think he's handled the situation very well. He took the action to mute the hotel, not only giving Sulake time to work on these problems but also preventing the media finding anything else incriminating. He's took time out from his personal time (he's been tweeting well after work hours) to keep us up to date via Twitter (albeit slowly to start with, but at least he's made an effort and kept us somewhat in the loop) and interact with us directly. I can't imagine the CEO of many other companies doing the same thing. To be honest I think he's done quite well. In less capable hands (maybe a CEO who hadn't reacted in such a timely and firm manner) I could imagine this scandal would have nailed the coffin and buried Habbo, but as it stands Habbo's gonna be unmuted this week with great improvements and we're gonna have a much bigger say in what happens in the future. I really get the feeling that Paul actually cares about the users and I think that's important here.If you'd read my post I think you'd understand that we agree on most issues. For instance Paul being blamed for the issues on Channel 4 is unfair. His handling of the situation started off disastrously but now seems quite good. Whether he recovers or not remains to be seen? Of course we don't know what measures he's going to introduce and whether Habbo will bounce back (personally I don't think it will, parents won't trust it again, it lacks investors and whenever it's Googled, people will see its reputation is in tatters) but at least it looks like Habbo users will be safe once again which is the most important thing.
The investors could both have remained if Habbo managed to prevent the Channel 4 report getting out of control by countering it early and proving to investors they were going to tackle it by taking initiative. The report itself wouldn't have attracted as much attention if that happened. Plus investors are pretty faceless organisations so they tend to be not concerned with image (that's not to say some of them aren't ethical though).
PiippBB
18-06-2012, 12:46 AM
If you'd read my post I think you'd understand that we agree on most issues. For instance Paul being blamed for the issues on Channel 4 is unfair. His handling of the situation started off disastrously but now seems quite good. Whether he recovers or not remains to be seen? Of course we don't know what measures he's going to introduce and whether Habbo will bounce back (personally I don't think it will, parents won't trust it again, it lacks investors and whenever it's Googled, people will see its reputation is in tatters) but at least it looks like Habbo users will be safe once again which is the most important thing.
The investors could both have remained if Habbo managed to prevent the Channel 4 report getting out of control by countering it early and proving to investors they were going to tackle it by taking initiative. The report itself wouldn't have attracted as much attention if that happened. Plus investors are pretty faceless organisations so they tend to be not concerned with image (that's not to say some of them aren't ethical though).
I did read your post, I was just reiterating the parts I agree with. And I agree Paul's initial reaction was disastrous, muting the hotel with no prior warning, explanation, or reason was ridiculous. Posting the Tweets about Becs etc which he swiftly deleted was also a pretty stupid move. But he's certainly pulled it all back over the past few days and I think that now he's doing a good job. We know why he muted the hotel, the plan for reactivating chat, and most importantly, that they were actually working on things as soon as the hotel was muted. At first it seemed like we'd been muted and they were just sat around panicking, now we know they were putting plans together immediately.
Jordy
18-06-2012, 12:52 AM
I did read your post, I was just reiterating the parts I agree with. And I agree Paul's initial reaction was disastrous, muting the hotel with no prior warning, explanation, or reason was ridiculous. Posting the Tweets about Becs etc which he swiftly deleted was also a pretty stupid move. But he's certainly pulled it all back over the past few days and I think that now he's doing a good job. We know why he muted the hotel, the plan for reactivating chat, and most importantly, that they were actually working on things as soon as the hotel was muted. At first it seemed like we'd been muted and they were just sat around panicking, now we know they were putting plans together immediately.Ahh fair enough I agree with everything there too which is good :)
The muting does seem a very shrewd move, like everyone else I wasn't convinced by it initially but it's won me over. It's just wait and see now to see what the measures are, at least the media are reporting about forthcoming changes with the unmuting, presumably they'll be more articles about it in the forthcoming week and possibly in a positive manner this time. I suspect what Habbo implement in the forthcoming days will be quite complex though, if they've had a week to put all the best minds at Sulake together and mute the hotel in the mean time, I doubt they're going to come up with anything petty.
PiippBB
18-06-2012, 01:02 AM
I expect a lot of the stuff introduced won't be obvious and will be beneath the surface, bar things like the quiz to activate the chat function. I would imagine most of it is better filters which catch out keywords and phrases much faster and better than the previous. Things like that won't be evident to the ordinary user but will be very different for the mods; my guess is they've spent the last week putting these complex systems together and retraining the mods on how better to police the game and that the gap between each release is more for their benefit to ensure the systems are working correctly and the mods don't just know how to use the new system but they can handle it too. I can't honestly see us actually knowing what all ten of these new features are unless we're actually told by Sulake. A few of the changes are already evident however, such as the removal of the dating category and the change to the kissing booth furni. I would assume they've put an outright ban on rooms such as 'sexy singles' and 'kissing booths' which encourage the type of behaviour which often leads to the incidents highlighted by C4. I'm totally in favour of this to be honest, it's all well and good when these things are intended as a role play to be kept in game (as I think was the intention from Habbo when they started to allow these rooms) but it seems apparent from C4's reports that all too often users try to take this further. I just hope we're gonna see more of a mod presence in the hotel and some changes to teach the younger players about the possible effects of taking your Habbo change elsewhere.
Yes they do already know it but if they made an account then other newspapers or channels would see it and there would be more reports = more scandals, they would get more shocking stories and there would be even more complaints etc
Habbo have even said themselves, on their homepage Habbo have said: "Due to the challenging behaviour of a few users, the hotel as been muted, we will update you when we have more information to share".
Also, lots of us will be getting 7 days of being a Habbo Helper, without helping as we cant!
Habbo have even said themselves, on their homepage Habbo have said: "Due to the challenging behaviour of a few users, the hotel as been muted, we will update you when we have more information to share".
Also, lots of us will be getting 7 days of being a Habbo Helper, without helping as we cant!
who bloody cares about habbo helpers. I think getting the hotel safe and implementing better moderation as well as stopping the press from filming any more inappropriate behaviour is a bit higher up the scale of importance than habbo helpers. He also confirmed on his twitter it was to stop any more sexual conversations to take place.
find it fascinating how invested people are in the hotel. you would hope (or at least i would hope maybe i'm wrong) that a mute would encourage users off the site into more productive things.
i have been using habbo since i was 10 years old (11 years) and i would say that i was most drawn to the website in my more darker times of my life (when i left uni, when i'd fallen out with friends, when i was lonely) and i think it does contain many vulnerable users who are avoiding the outside world for some reason or another. for this reason alone they should've stepped up security and safety months ago.
the adverts they used were unacceptable and inappropriate (i used to get tonnes on this forum alone of "find ur d8 lolol") and the furni and quests they introduced only encouraged less than acceptable behaviour.
i don't think they'll be able to fix this now, and i think it's always been a problem of the hotel. i remember being 13 (when security on the hotel was far, far, far greater and moderation was basically in overkill) and having people offer me money for going on webcam or cyber-sex.
i don't think it's the minority ruining it for the majority either, i think the people talking about it here and on other forums are all part of the fansite world so that is the side they see of habbo. it's not the entirety, outside of events and help desks' there is a massive amount of inappropriate rooms and discussion happening.
i don't think habbo will close, i think it should though and possibly rebrand and/or split the hotels. they either need to make it a 16+ website and have the behavior OR go for the younger teen audience and moderate excessively.
Xedia
18-06-2012, 11:38 AM
Habbo have even said themselves, on their homepage Habbo have said: "Due to the challenging behaviour of a few users, the hotel as been muted, we will update you when we have more information to share".
Also, lots of us will be getting 7 days of being a Habbo Helper, without helping as we cant!
How can't you help? The helper chat still works..
lawrawrrr
18-06-2012, 11:47 AM
find it fascinating how invested people are in the hotel. you would hope (or at least i would hope maybe i'm wrong) that a mute would encourage users off the site into more productive things.
i have been using habbo since i was 10 years old (11 years) and i would say that i was most drawn to the website in my more darker times of my life (when i left uni, when i'd fallen out with friends, when i was lonely) and i think it does contain many vulnerable users who are avoiding the outside world for some reason or another. for this reason alone they should've stepped up security and safety months ago.
ye but some people want to show their support for sulake, i've not run off elsewhere as I know it's nothing to do with me. Hopefully it'll make the paedos and cyberers run off elsewhere though. OFC they should have stepped up security, but they got typical doing-well-want-more-greedy company mode.
the adverts they used were unacceptable and inappropriate (i used to get tonnes on this forum alone of "find ur d8 lolol") and the furni and quests they introduced only encouraged less than acceptable behaviour.
i don't think they'll be able to fix this now, and i think it's always been a problem of the hotel. i remember being 13 (when security on the hotel was far, far, far greater and moderation was basically in overkill) and having people offer me money for going on webcam or cyber-sex.
They've taken all the adverts down now though, stopped the kissing booth animation and stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of it all together. They only implemented those things as the users asked for them in the first place....
On any website, though, there's paedos asking for topless pics, but there's never any reports on them! Being a specific young-teenage game, they're going to be targeted more, but that means that they need to stop encouraging it, which they haven't done so far.
i don't think it's the minority ruining it for the majority either, i think the people talking about it here and on other forums are all part of the fansite world so that is the side they see of habbo. it's not the entirety, outside of events and help desks' there is a massive amount of inappropriate rooms and discussion happening.
i don't think habbo will close, i think it should though and possibly rebrand and/or split the hotels. they either need to make it a 16+ website and have the behavior OR go for the younger teen audience and moderate excessively.
You don't think it's the minority? You think more than half of the hotel do all the sexual stuff? Cos they're the people that are supposedly 'ruining' it for the rest of us!
GoldenMerc
18-06-2012, 12:09 PM
Wonder when we get gb back and stuff lol.
Jarkie
18-06-2012, 02:19 PM
How can't you help? The helper chat still works..
Nope, the chat system is also muted.
Wow. I was just saying. Please calm down, actually lolling.
who bloody cares about habbo helpers. I think getting the hotel safe and implementing better moderation as well as stopping the press from filming any more inappropriate behaviour is a bit higher up the scale of importance than habbo helpers. He also confirmed on his twitter it was to stop any more sexual conversations to take place.
It doesn't actually. I've tried it.
How can't you help? The helper chat still works..
Xedia
18-06-2012, 02:28 PM
Wow. I was just saying. Please calm down, actually lolling.
It doesn't actually. I've tried it.
Works for me..
Jarkie
18-06-2012, 02:42 PM
Works for me..
It does? O.o
I get the 'calls request' but I type in the chat system and the user doenst reply, I even see "user is typing..." and again; nothing shows up so.. :S
Mathew
18-06-2012, 03:23 PM
Are Habbo still replying to the help tool and sending out emails?
xxMATTGxx
18-06-2012, 03:24 PM
Paul Tweeted:
Habbos information on The Great Unmute will start coming tomorrow, then Wednesday, etc. We reintroduce social elements in steps. Thanks!
MKR&*42
18-06-2012, 03:25 PM
Bobba sake, I don't have the patience to wait day after day :l.
Least it'll be the PM first I believe? Sure that was posted in this thread somewhere idk.
Mathew
18-06-2012, 03:28 PM
Oh for goodness sake. Don't they know we have a tournament to host? ;/
Xedia
18-06-2012, 04:22 PM
I wish they would just hurry up and stop hyping it so much.
MissAlice
18-06-2012, 04:24 PM
I think what is most important is Sulake get it right, rushing into changes are when mistakes are made, they cannot afford to get it wrong. This is their one opportunity to shine, and prove to the media, parents, players and other internet sites that safety is of paramount importance.
If it takes a week or so, does it really matter?
Xedia
18-06-2012, 05:07 PM
I think what is most important is Sulake get it right, rushing into changes are when mistakes are made, they cannot afford to get it wrong. This is their one opportunity to shine, and prove to the media, parents, players and other internet sites that safety is of paramount importance.
If it takes a week or so, does it really matter?
Safety has never been of paramount important to them, and never will be. The changes will probably work or 1-2 weeks, I'm not expecting much to change.
meh wish they'd have unmuted us today for the olympics. glad it's happening soon though. :)
MissAlice
18-06-2012, 06:02 PM
Safety has never been of paramount important to them, and never will be. The changes will probably work or 1-2 weeks, I'm not expecting much to change.
Yes paramount was probably too strong a word, but nevertheless safety is important, and whilst money /profit has been top of their priority list, they have to up their game, and make changes. We will have to wait and see what improvements are made.
I took a look at the technology that Crisp Thinking has to offer, Sulake could benefit by using their services.
I think profit will come back in it's own way once they show improvement. As news channels will pick up on this and thus creating Habbo more publicity.
Puma!
18-06-2012, 10:48 PM
It's been an interesting week.
A question that really intrigues me is how Habbo will improve their safety? Sulake have mentioned a "world class safety system", but how realistically can it be implemented? It's going to cost them money (more so if they bring a third party/IT security company), whilst the mute has lost the company both investors and customers. No doubt profit margins will fall from the scandal too. Outsourcing to Costa Rica isn't the answer, just because it doesn't ensure the hotel stays safe at all times. Also it's been mentioned that the moderating isn't actually done on habbo - don't know if that's true, but if that happens to be the case then it's very poor on Sulake's part to defend individuals. People talk the new system (whatever its called) like how it will improve safety, but will it? Answering a few questions on internet safety isn't going to prevent sexual behaviour in the hotel.
I'd really like to see a return of the MOD/Hobba system - but this time more stringent checks on individuals applying, to prevent previous problems (power mad individuals/corruption/etc). But even then, it should be a temporary measure so a longer-term strategy of improving safety in the hotel. That should hopefully restore some confidence with investors.
Dunno - there seems to be a lot more questions that could be asked from all this.
Rixion
18-06-2012, 10:57 PM
They obviously have knew it's been going on for years and haven't been bothered to act unless someone uses the Help Tool. I won't be surprised if they're forced to shut down because of this unless some serious implication is added which seems unlikely, cos how can you stop them... but I guess it's fair to say that on most online roleplay games.
GommeInc
18-06-2012, 11:05 PM
They obviously have knew it's been going on for years and haven't been bothered to act unless someone uses the Help Tool. I won't be surprised if they're forced to shut down because of this unless some serious implication is added which seems unlikely, cos how can you stop them... but I guess it's fair to say that on most online roleplay games.
It's best to wait until they begin returning services to normal before suggesting they will be closed :P It would be hilarious if these new security measures and strategies do not work and they're in deeper trouble, but this is all just speculation.
Rixion
18-06-2012, 11:09 PM
It's best to wait until they begin returning services to normal before suggesting they will be closed :P It would be hilarious if these new security measures and strategies do not work and they're in deeper trouble, but this is all just speculation.
Didn't know it was returning :L , in all sincerity I wish them good luck controlling this problem and will be interested to see what they do with these "strategies".
ugh this is annoying me so much he is a total **** head!!!
just unmute us :@
iFlame
18-06-2012, 11:32 PM
The mute is annoying, however I have heard it's to return sometime this week, not sure when though!
PiippBB
19-06-2012, 12:33 AM
Just noticed a new notice which pops up when you enter a Habbo room in the same manner as a 'respect' notice. 'Discussions in rooms may be monitored for moderation and safety purposes.' Guess they're preparing for the unmute :D
Just noticed a new notice which pops up when you enter a Habbo room in the same manner as a 'respect' notice. 'Discussions in rooms may be monitored for moderation and safety purposes.' Guess they're preparing for the unmute :D
Sure are taking their time
Samantha
19-06-2012, 01:01 AM
Just noticed a new notice which pops up when you enter a Habbo room in the same manner as a 'respect' notice. 'Discussions in rooms may be monitored for moderation and safety purposes.' Guess they're preparing for the unmute :D
That has been there for ages? Unless you mean it hasn't been there through the duration of the mute. Maybe they'll actually listen to their own messages now though.
Having said that, what happens if they're too strict now? Like banning or muting for any misconception of any word that could be borderline sexual as I said before would they mute for 'Cameron' just because it has the word 'Cam' in. I know I got warned for saying 'WC' in a quiz when I was referring to 'World Capitals' so maybe they'll implement something as strict as that.
GommeInc
19-06-2012, 01:12 AM
That has been there for ages? Unless you mean it hasn't been there through the duration of the mute. Maybe they'll actually listen to their own messages now though.
Having said that, what happens if they're too strict now? Like banning or muting for any misconception of any word that could be borderline sexual as I said before would they mute for 'Cameron' just because it has the word 'Cam' in. I know I got warned for saying 'WC' in a quiz when I was referring to 'World Capitals' so maybe they'll implement something as strict as that.
You'd think they will issue a room warning or a private warning saying "Be aware this conversation is now being monitored" That way they can see where the conversation is going rather than out right ban or mute.
Jordan
19-06-2012, 08:55 AM
The unmute is happening today and for the next couple of days ^ (for the people questioning above). I do like the way they are re introducing the chat system again with a quiz to get us to hopefully read the new instructions. Probably happen sometime this morning.
PiippBB
19-06-2012, 11:17 AM
That has been there for ages? Unless you mean it hasn't been there through the duration of the mute. Maybe they'll actually listen to their own messages now though.
Having said that, what happens if they're too strict now? Like banning or muting for any misconception of any word that could be borderline sexual as I said before would they mute for 'Cameron' just because it has the word 'Cam' in. I know I got warned for saying 'WC' in a quiz when I was referring to 'World Capitals' so maybe they'll implement something as strict as that.
I'm pretty sure it won't be like that. I think once a 'black listed' word comes to the attention of a moderator they will look at the conversation and context in which the word was used so that they don't end users for using words in a completely safe and non sexual way. If they look at the conversation and see that the user said Cameron they'll see it's okay. However if they look at it and see the user actually said camera they will ban them. I know this is how it used to work; I remember Hobbas turning up in many rooms because someone had used a word which could have been taken the wrong way but the Hobbas didn't have to act as once they'd read the logs they could actually see there was no danger.
Storking
19-06-2012, 02:31 PM
The mute ends tomorrow!
http://greatunmute.habbo.com/
http://www.sulake.com/blog/entries/habbo-unveils-plans-for-the-great-unmute-the-24-hour-countdown-begins/
Xedia
19-06-2012, 02:41 PM
They created a website for it.. http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9638/derpga.png
MKR&*42
19-06-2012, 02:46 PM
Site looks interesting I suppose? lol. Just glad it's happening tomorrow :).
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Pfft fine, just glad we're getting more news tomorrow? LOL. Jordy does mention some interesting points though.
Michael
19-06-2012, 02:47 PM
It must seem like a long time since you last spoke to your Habbo friends, but rest assured we haven’t been wasting time since the site fell silent.
The Channel Four News report in the UK about inappropriate interaction on the site saddened me for two reasons. Not only was I deeply concerned to hear about the findings, I was also sorry that the report made no mention of the millions of responsible users who have a positive and constructive experience on our site.
For a full week since Channel Four’s report went on air, my team has worked tirelessly to create the best possible solutions to the challenges we face from a small minority. Now it’s time to allow our loyal and legitimate users a brief chance to have their say before we finalise our plans for Habbo’s future.
For six hours tomorrow (Wednesday), starting at 14:00 UK time, a new and separate website called ‘The Great Unmute’ will open and allow you all to post your thoughts and feelings in a way never seen before in social media. Once the uploading closes, the site will be re-secured as a testament to the many positive experiences the Habbo community has created.
www.thegreatunmute.com
It’s your chance to tell me what I can do to improve the community. You have my word, my team and I will be reading every comment, looking at every picture and watching every video clip. My commitment to you right now is to deliver the safest possible user experience. I understand that means listening to you at this critical moment if I am going to get it right. I feel strongly that it is the right thing to do to make sure your views are heard.
It is also a moment where the world will be watching us, listening carefully to our conversations to understand what our community means to us. The Habbo community is a creative and dynamic environment, but we have never allowed the uploading of visual content before. This has always been a key element of our efforts to protect the safety of our users. That’s why The Great Unmute is a chance to get creative in new ways; the site will allow multimedia content, giving users a real chance express their views in a responsible way with a watching world. Users below the age of 18 should check with their parents before uploading multimedia content.
As the world media stops talking ABOUT us and takes a brief moment to listen TO us, I want us to demonstrate why we are proud of our community. The Habbo site has always been about interacting, sharing news and views and making new friends in a controlled and constructive environment. This is what we’re going to show with a single voice in a wave of innovative content.
When we open The Great Unmute I am going to ask you to answer at least one of the following questions with your posts:
· What does your community mean to you?
· How do you feel about the recent news?
· How can we improve the site in the future?
I would also like to extend the invitation to parents of users to visit the site and watch our conversations. This marks the start of Habbo working closely with parents and users together, sharing a collective responsibility to deliver a safe and secure social experience for our global community of teenagers and young people.
After the Great Unmute, my team and I will need to spend a little time looking at the content you submit to make sure I come back with a final plan to deliver the community you want. But rest assured the reopening of the Habbo community is not far away. In the meantime, again my thanks to the millions of loyal users who are continuing to support us through these challenging times.
http://blog.habbo.com/2012/06/19/the-great-unmute-the-24-hour-countdown-begins/
Threads merged by Zuth (Forum Moderator): As they're on the same topic!
Jordy
19-06-2012, 02:47 PM
The mute ends tomorrow!
http://greatunmute.habbo.com/
http://www.sulake.com/blog/entries/habbo-unveils-plans-for-the-great-unmute-the-24-hour-countdown-begins/It's very difficult to understand but I don't think that means the mute ends tomorrow. By the looks of it "The Great Unmute" website will open tomorrow which is essentially a suggestions box. I'm assuming after the six hours of it being open is up, it'll still be muted until they implement the suggestions?
For instance;
After the Great Unmute, my team and I will need to spend a little time looking at the content you submit to make sure I come back with a final plan to deliver the community you want. But rest assured the reopening of the Habbo community is not far away.
I find this worrying how difficult it is to understand and I also find it concerning that they're reliant on Habbo's to come up with ideas to secure the hotel? Why can't they do it themselves? Are they incapable? There's looking for community input and there's being clueless. This is clueless.
Xedia
19-06-2012, 02:50 PM
Lol I'm totally confused now.
I thought they said they were allowing PM's today, and now they roll out this waste of time website. I guess we will be waiting another week to be unmuted then.
jesus christ he is a stupid ****. just un mute us, you've done enough damage already
Samantha
19-06-2012, 02:54 PM
He should havr been reading our thoughts before, listening to us before oh and tje poll in the welcom lounge they should be listened to. Is that 2pm BST or American time so like 7pm BST?
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Nvm says UK time
lawrawrrr
19-06-2012, 02:57 PM
Should have listened to the players before, loooool...
all this **** head comes out with is
BADGES BADGE HABBO LOVE BADGES ILL GET MY STAFF TO MAKE MORE BADGES
Samantha
19-06-2012, 02:59 PM
Also he says he'll read everu comment he should have read every tweet, tomorrow might log on my pone and tell him to get an attitude cjeck as it's frankly not on.
Kieran
19-06-2012, 03:01 PM
Well I was talking to him on Twitter last night.... he basically ignored everything I said and just said thank you for tweeting but no thanks xD
Over 10 years and only now they begin to listen to their users? hmm. Wish he would stop dragging this out, just unmute the site.
,Abbey
19-06-2012, 03:03 PM
Wow, stupid much, just like unmute the site seriously!!! ;L |-)
Kieran
19-06-2012, 03:04 PM
Paul has just said on Twitter to expect early NEXT WEEK for the first part of the site to be unmuted!
Jarkie
19-06-2012, 03:09 PM
Paul has just said on Twitter to expect early NEXT WEEK for the first part of the site to be unmuted!
Really? oh my god.. >.<
kl story unmute as already. seriously bored of this, should just have listened earlier and things would have been dealt with quicker
xxMATTGxx
19-06-2012, 03:12 PM
This is the tweet Kieran was talking about:
https://twitter.com/PaulLaFo/status/215096251249721344
@PaulLaFo When do you expect the first element of socializing on Habbo to be reintroduced and allowed for usage? Thanks. :D
@ShaunHabbo DJ, well asked. We think a first element will be coming early next week. More news soon.
Jarkie
19-06-2012, 03:12 PM
Theres a new poll in the welcome lounge.
Do a statement type thing and the best 50 will get chosen and used for BOT messages.
Honestly this guy is now getting on my nerves...
He says one thing.. and then it doesnt happen! he keeps misleading people ;/
Inseriousity.
19-06-2012, 03:49 PM
lol honestly, doesnt matter when they unmute, these convos are still going to happen. just waiting for the storm to die down before they go back to normal and nothing changes.
Andii
19-06-2012, 03:56 PM
lol honestly, doesnt matter when they unmute, these convos are still going to happen. just waiting for the storm to die down before they go back to normal and nothing changes.
apparently these mutes are meant to last 4 weeks =/ my friend rang me and told me this she read it today
Leviaton2
19-06-2012, 03:58 PM
apparently these mutes are meant to last 4 weeks =/ my friend rang me and told me this she read it today
Wrong. http://www.sulake.com/blog/entries/habbo-unveils-plans-for-the-great-unmute-the-24-hour-countdown-begins/
Plebings
19-06-2012, 04:11 PM
poor habbox olympics :(
Perfected
19-06-2012, 04:20 PM
Honestly this guy is now getting on my nerves...
He says one thing.. and then it doesnt happen! he keeps misleading people ;/
This is how I feel. How misleading that they called it "The Great Unmute" in the first place! He knew that people would assume that it meant the hotel would be unmuted in 24 hours, but instead it means it is the 1st step in a multi-day process before the mute will even begin to be unmuted?
At this point, I'm afraid that unmuted is going to mean that we will be "speaking" from pre-selected drop downs like in young children's games.
Xedia
19-06-2012, 04:29 PM
This is the tweet Kieran was talking about:
https://twitter.com/PaulLaFo/status/215096251249721344
@PaulLaFo When do you expect the first element of socializing on Habbo to be reintroduced and allowed for usage? Thanks.
@ShaunHabbo DJ, well asked. We think a first element will be coming early next week. More news soon.
I like how he says one thing and then does something completely different. Lol at those people who said he was a good CEO. Someone please get rid of him.
Kittysoft
19-06-2012, 04:45 PM
Well, that announcement was a disappointment. When are Habbo going to actually unmute the website!
Andii
19-06-2012, 04:59 PM
Wrong. http://www.sulake.com/blog/entries/habbo-unveils-plans-for-the-great-unmute-the-24-hour-countdown-begins/
o phew thank frig for this lol
Jesus....How they can afford to prolong this when two major investors have dropped I don't know, even with this spin they're now piling on.
I also like the subtle reinforcement throughout that statement to the users that the site will be under scrutiny for a few weeks after the unmute, like a plea. Almost as if he's asking the kids to behave while Ofsted are visiting, maybe send the worst behaved on a trip to a zoo so they're not in the classroom, but in the long run it's going to have little effect
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