Habbo caught up in child sex scandal / Habbo Mute

[Xedia]

Jesus....How they can afford to prolong this when two major investors have dropped I don't know, even with this spin they're now piling on.
I also like the subtle reinforcement throughout that statement to the users that the site will be under scrutiny for a few weeks after the unmute, like a plea. Almost as if he's asking the kids to behave while Ofsted are visiting, maybe send the worst behaved on a trip to a zoo so they're not in the classroom, but in the long run it's going to have little effect

Because they over charge people for credits. And bring out bright furniture to lure kiddies in to buying them.

[Samantha]

http://habbox.com/#!/News/article/1320

Report on it, share your opinions!

[xxMATTGxx]

Not sure if anyone has posted this either but there is now this sign and a new poll thing in the welcome lounge:

http://mattgarner.net/upload/images/2012/06/19/mNn65.png

[PiippBB]

What a mess. I have to say I've defended Paul for the duration of this 'incident' but I've lost all faith now. It was wrong of him to hint over the weekend that 'The Great Unmute' was actually referring to the hotel itself. It was wrong of Paul to hint over the weekend that the unmuting of the hotel would begin this week when he's now admitted it won't start until AT LEAST early next week. It was wrong of Paul to hint over the weekend that IM would be unmuted today in the hotel. Pretty much everything he's posted this weekend has been a lie to encourage users back to the site this week under the pretence that we would be able to communicate with one another again when in actual fact all we can do is post our ideas and opinions on a seperate website for Sulake to read over. There comes my next problem with this; they want this new site to be a showcase of positive ideas and opinions from loyal users so that the press can see the positive side to Habbo. But we all know that someone is bound to post something awful, as they have done on many of the C4 comment pages and that the press won't look at the positive comments; they'll just take a few of the bad ones and spin them to make another appalling story. I think this whole idea is ridiculous; they would have been better off just keeping the poll in the welcome lounge open. It's good that they want our ideas, afterall, we're the ones that play the site and therefore have the best knowledge of how it works but I think it's too late in the day for them to be taking more ideas and trying to implement them. By now they should have all their ideas together and be working on bringing them in to the hotel and reopening the services. It's worrying that a week after the C4 report they're still gathering ideas for new features which will then have to be developed and programmed into the hotel. How long exactly will this extend the hotel mute for? It's just ridiculous, to learn that the first social feature to be unlocked on the hotel will PROBABLY come at the start of next week is just another way of saying 'well, we might be ready to give you something next week, but we're not really sure yet, so just stick with us, we've given you a date now.' I feel cheated that all weekend Paul has been making posts which very much made it sound as though we would be returning to normal services this week when in actual fact they have no intention of unmuting us for AT LEAST another seven days. It's just getting ridiculous now; I'm starting to think they want to run this business into the ground. It's also unclear when Paul keeps saying that after these comments they can finalise their plans for the future of the hotel. What exactly does he mean by this? He could well be saying they're not even sure if it'll stay open; who knows, he's lied about pretty much everything else up until now.

Then there's the issue of VIP. Paul has stated on his Twitter that VIP won't run down anymore; basically, they've frozen it for the mute so it won't count down. Well mine has already run out! So what are they gonna do for users like myself? Because mine was never frozen and now it's ended. They claimed we would be compensated last week but I'm doubting that now seeing as they have said it's been frozen for current members. Doesn't help people like myself however who find their VIP has already ended during the mute before they decided to finally freeze it.

Sorry for the long post but I really am getting angry now. It was fair enough to mute as, I understand why they did it. But dragging it out for at least another week, (probably waiting for the media storm to die down completely before unmuting the hotel), misleading us for two days into believing we would have our services back this week when it won't happen until at least next week (and probably won't happen then unless there's some huge World news that C4 can fill their time with) and freezing VIP so late in the day, well, it just doesn't sit well with me. Sorry. -Rant over-

[Michael]

What a mess. I have to say I've defended Paul for the duration of this 'incident' but I've lost all faith now. It was wrong of him to hint over the weekend that 'The Great Unmute' was actually referring to the hotel itself. It was wrong of Paul to hint over the weekend that the unmuting of the hotel would begin this week when he's now admitted it won't start until AT LEAST early next week. It was wrong of Paul to hint over the weekend that IM would be unmuted today in the hotel. Pretty much everything he's posted this weekend has been a lie to encourage users back to the site this week under the pretence that we would be able to communicate with one another again when in actual fact all we can do is post our ideas and opinions on a seperate website for Sulake to read over. There comes my next problem with this; they want this new site to be a showcase of positive ideas and opinions from loyal users so that the press can see the positive side to Habbo. But we all know that someone is bound to post something awful, as they have done on many of the C4 comment pages and that the press won't look at the positive comments; they'll just take a few of the bad ones and spin them to make another appalling story. I think this whole idea is ridiculous; they would have been better off just keeping the poll in the welcome lounge open. It's good that they want our ideas, afterall, we're the ones that play the site and therefore have the best knowledge of how it works but I think it's too late in the day for them to be taking more ideas and trying to implement them. By now they should have all their ideas together and be working on bringing them in to the hotel and reopening the services. It's worrying that a week after the C4 report they're still gathering ideas for new features which will then have to be developed and programmed into the hotel. How long exactly will this extend the hotel mute for? It's just ridiculous, to learn that the first social feature to be unlocked on the hotel will PROBABLY come at the start of next week is just another way of saying 'well, we might be ready to give you something next week, but we're not really sure yet, so just stick with us, we've given you a date now.' I feel cheated that all weekend Paul has been making posts which very much made it sound as though we would be returning to normal services this week when in actual fact they have no intention of unmuting us for AT LEAST another seven days. It's just getting ridiculous now; I'm starting to think they want to run this business into the ground. It's also unclear when Paul keeps saying that after these comments they can finalise their plans for the future of the hotel. What exactly does he mean by this? He could well be saying they're not even sure if it'll stay open; who knows, he's lied about pretty much everything else up until now.

Then there's the issue of VIP. Paul has stated on his Twitter that VIP won't run down anymore; basically, they've frozen it for the mute so it won't count down. Well mine has already run out! So what are they gonna do for users like myself? Because mine was never frozen and now it's ended. They claimed we would be compensated last week but I'm doubting that now seeing as they have said it's been frozen for current members. Doesn't help people like myself however who find their VIP has already ended during the mute before they decided to finally freeze it.

Sorry for the long post but I really am getting angry now. It was fair enough to mute as, I understand why they did it. But dragging it out for at least another week, (probably waiting for the media storm to die down completely before unmuting the hotel), misleading us for two days into believing we would have our services back this week when it won't happen until at least next week (and probably won't happen then unless there's some huge World news that C4 can fill their time with) and freezing VIP so late in the day, well, it just doesn't sit well with me. Sorry. -Rant over-

They'll say 'Hi heres 7 days of free VIP'

[Oasis]

They just like to make a big show about everything they do!
I bet they have "The big unmute" furni out next to get some more money.

[PiippBB]

They'll say 'Hi heres 7 days of free VIP'

Thing is they should have frozen it as soon as the muted the hotel. They knew it was gonna be down for a while, not a quick fix, why has it taken them this long to freeze it? It;s ridiculous. And those who have their VIP frozen now will probably still get free days of VIP too. Which means I've still lost out whilst they've gained. It's just not fair.

[GommeInc]

Not sure if anyone has posted this either but there is now this sign and a new poll thing in the welcome lounge:

http://mattgarner.net/upload/images/2012/06/19/mNn65.png
What a stupid campaign... Raise your voice! Because we muted it because we're a badly run organisation! I don't get what their point is with that poll - the intentions are honourable but the execution is lousy.

They seem so hateful towards those who brought about the recent problems, while at the same time grateful. It's stupid.

[GoldenMerc]

http://greatunmute.habbo.com/
When this hits 0, there not going to un-mute all are they? There doing it in baby steps, so client may not actually be un-muted untill later in week.
Correct?

[Nick]

http://greatunmute.habbo.com/
When this hits 0, there not going to un-mute all are they? There doing it in baby steps, so client may not actually be un-muted untill later in week.
Correct?

Yea, i think they said that they were bringing back PM's, then chat or something.. i really dont see the point in the timer then, if they aren't fully unmuteing us.

[Fifty-Six]

The timer is just when the site opens for users to respond to the 3 questions. Paul has suggested that in-client unmutes won't begin until AT LEAST next week.

[Nick]

The timer is just when the site opens for users to respond to the 3 questions. Paul has suggested that in-client unmutes won't begin until AT LEAST next week.

Really... omg im really over habbo at the moment..

[Fifty-Six]

Same here... felt we've been a bit misled. I thought paul hinted the other day that our "existing friends were important", suggesting that the IM feature would soon be unmuted..

[lawrawrrr]

It's a bit annoying that they've not unmuted but it's understandable seeing as places are still reporting on the story, they want to wait for it to blow over!

[Smurfed-]

The hotel has just gone on maintenance. I wander what's happening.

[Nick]

The hotel has just gone on maintenance. I wander what's happening.

May be adding the next level to the helper talents?

[Ekelektra]

I got a minimail before it went? I looked and it said the 1 next to my me picture but of course I couldn't access minimail, and I reloaded but it had gone so maybe that's coming back? Was that just me or anyone else have that too?

[Matt]

http://imgur.com/g8mkW,WEcWw
http://imgur.com/g8mkW,WEcWw#1

Not unmuted yet I'm afraid D:
That's what new after the maintenance. A new poll in the welcome lounge. About bots broadcasting messages! :3
Also i thought i'd post what i am seeing in my chat bar everytime i enter a room. Anyone else getting this?

[Nick]

Ye i get it mdport.;

Also they have taken out the events tab in the navigator and the helper tool due to the mute.

[Storking]

http://i46.tinypic.com/2e6adtj.png

I feel like they're trying to act as if all this was planned by saying it's a campaign to get your thoughts. They should just admit they were wrong to allow the strip clubs and rooms with cyber sex, rather than cover it up, it's getting kinda ridiculous.

http://i45.tinypic.com/34j94ig.png

Very mature of Sulake to put that on the hotel view.. :rolleyes:

[Mathew]

Ughhhhh. Does anyone actually want to share their thoughts about the Habbo community or their opinion on the news? Maybe if they'd done it as soon as it happened, but now it's just ridiculous a week down the line. We just want to play Habbo, not mess around preaching about how amazing everything is. It's happened, accept it, move on; because it's quite simply boring now. Paul seems extremely annoyed with the media still and you can see the sly digs in his news articles. It's just cringworthy because you want him to represent Habbo professionally but he keeps throwing the same cards back to them.

[Bob1]

Paul seems extremely annoyed with the media still and you can see the sly digs in his news articles. It's just cringworthy because you want him to represent Habbo professionally but he keeps throwing the same cards back to them.

Agreed, I don't think he sees that there was a problem which is why I'm thinking all this will be pointless because whatever they eventually do wont actually change anything.
BTW Channel 4 still asking me to do debate so looks like it's still happening at some point.

[Mathew]

Agreed, I don't think he sees that there was a problem which is why I'm thinking all this will be pointless because whatever they eventually do wont actually change anything.
BTW Channel 4 still asking me to do debate so looks like it's still happening at some point.

A real life debate in the studio? How many other people? :O

[Jordan]

A real life interview in the studio? How many other people? :O

The debate with Channel 4 is something similar to what Habbo is doing. You need to create a video and tweet them and they will select some to show on the news whenever they broadcast it :P

[Mathew]

The debate with Channel 4 is something similar to what Habbo is doing. You need to create a video and tweet them and they will select some to show on the news whenever they broadcast it :P

Oh so they'll obviously select the negative ones. Nice. :P

[CatFlaps]

http://i46.tinypic.com/2e6adtj.png

I feel like they're trying to act as if all this was planned by saying it's a campaign to get your thoughts. They should just admit they were wrong to allow the strip clubs and rooms with cyber sex, rather than cover it up, it's getting kinda ridiculous.

http://i45.tinypic.com/34j94ig.png

Very mature of Sulake to put that on the hotel view.. :rolleyes:
Hahahha i noticed that too, quite frankly i couldnt care less about white exec or new layouts or this collecting peoples thoughts thing i just want to be able to speak god dammit

[Jordan]

Oh so they'll obviously select the negative ones. Nice. :P

Well actually the 2 questions they've asked for people to respond to are not really there to be negative. They are going to generate a few positive ones


If you wanted to take part in that debate then create a 1 minute video on youtube to these questions and tweet that habbodebatec4

What are your thoughts about how to improve online safety?
Why is a site like Habbo so important to you? What do you think about the issues raised in our report?

But if your under 18 then for them to show it on the news you'll need parental permission. When it's on news depends on the world affairs after videos are posted.

[Mathew]

Mmmm fair enough. Will be interesting to see which they do choose.

[Xedia]

Lol at the hotel view, Sulake trying to say something? :L
http://i.imgur.com/RrQSr.png

[Mathew]

Lol at the hotel view, Sulake trying to say something? :L
http://i.imgur.com/RrQSr.png
1. OMG I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT.
2. OMG YOU'RE RUCHE!!!!!!!! Hahaha, I've seen you in Habbox Events... hello! :P

[Storking]

I really like the new images, they look refreshing and summery. :)

http://habbo.hs.llnwd.net/c_images/web_promo/lightWeight_ts_expressyourself.png
http://images.habbo.com/images/264/Ad7834376St1Sz154Sq102677130V0Id1.gif

[Xedia]

1. OMG I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT.
2. OMG YOU'RE RUCHE!!!!!!!! Hahaha, I've seen you in Habbox Events... hello! :P

Hehe :P Hello =]

[xxMATTGxx]

"Coming Very Soon!"

The count down has finished and the site now says that. Have we all just been trolled? LOL

http://greatunmute.habbo.com/

[Nick]

Says, comming very soon

[lawrawrrr]

Site opens for submissions in:
http://images.habbo.com/c_images/album1584/thx.gifComing Very Soon!





lol shutup

[Seikou]

they do a big countdown then write coming soon? omg lol

[Shorty]

Knew this would happen, Sulake are never on-time.



if(secs > 0)
{
document.getElementById(myDiv).innerHTML = DisplayStr;
setTimeout("CountBack('" + myDiv + "'," + (secs-1) + ");", 990);
}
else
{
document.getElementById(myDiv).innerHTML = "Coming Very Soon!";
}

[DPS]

LOL what a massive troll ;./

Now the website seems to be down.. server cant handle it LOL

[backyards]

Ridiculous! After all this time we get coming very soon?! and now it seems like the whole site is down. fail.

[DPS]

keep refreshing it slowly loads the site

[sex]

thegreatfail.com

usless ceo proves how great he is once again

[CatFlaps]

and then theirs me watching the countdown thinking 'omg 10 seconds from now'

[xxMATTGxx]

At the moment, running slow:

http://mattgarner.net/upload/images/2012/06/20/8ZuVC.png

[GoldenMerc]

posted a story

[lawrawrrr]

oh its open now

[GoldenMerc]

general error Host: greatunmute.habbo.com
Url: /



and now im getting;

Error establishing a database connection

[Nick]

Im still getting database error

[CatFlaps]

This is actually hilarious, just as you think habbo is finally doing something right

[DPS]

Yeah i wrote a long one seems it wasnt sent ;/

NICE ONE SULAKE!

[MKR&*42]

Am I the only one who has a working site? xD

---
o I should try post a story before saying this loool.

--

K ye mine breaks when trying to post a story oops :'(. x

[xxMATTGxx]

Fansites_Jason:


Many people accessing the site at the same time - we are fixing right now :)

https://twitter.com/Fansites_Jason/status/215431540849655809


Paul:


Initial traffic exceeding all expectations. We're balancing it now! Keep it coming all.

https://twitter.com/PaulLaFo/status/215431811285794817

[DPS]

Paul LaFontaine ‏@PaulLaFo (https://twitter.com/#!/PaulLaFo)
Initial traffic exceeding all expectations. We're balancing it now! Keep it coming all

[CatFlaps]

um.. they posted a live countdown were they seriously not expecting people not to view it?

[xxMATTGxx]

All posts on The Great Unmute will be screened first then posted. So you will not see them immediately. thanks


https://twitter.com/PaulLaFo/status/215434747541860353

This is in regards of your views not being shown to everyone first and will go through a review process or whatever you call it.

[Storking]

Screened? What the hell! I thought this was a website to express our views..

It sounds like a site full of positive things to show to the media, with the negative truth not posted.

I really dislike how management of Habbo has changed. :(

[Xedia]

Lol they want feedback but only accept positive comments. Useless.

[GoldenMerc]

mine didn't get showcased, it wasnt that negative

[xxMATTGxx]

Screened? What the hell! I thought this was a website to express our views..

It sounds like a site full of positive things to show to the media, with the negative truth not posted.

I really dislike how management of Habbo has changed. :(

I would rather not have the site full of trolls either. As long as they don't block everything they don't like.

[DPS]

Haha yeah noticed they get to decide whats on show.. another fail by sulake ;/

[sex]

Honestly wtf are they doing approving some of these lol


Totally new and innovative threeway moderation/help system! (With great marketing strategy)

What does your community mean to you?
How do you feel about the recent news?
How can we improve the site in the future?
A new totally innovativ moderation/help system, which is also good for marketing: A three-way system with normal users, freelance player MODs and hired (paid) moderators.


bun channel 4
idk.

im p1ssed off coz channel 4 r wastemanz.

der is no need, channel 4 r jus biased.


My Story
It mean alot to me considering ive been playing since 2006, ive met alot of friends and alot to come.

I felt disgusted that Channel 4 news reporters had acted as children. which is indeed a forum of pedophilia they should have been stopped and questioned.

Stop muting the site.

[Nick]

the first hotel message in years!

http://i49.tinypic.com/28a847n.png

[Storking]

Are the Costa Rican moderators approving these posts or what?

"bun channel 4 (http://greatunmute.habbo.com/?p=193)idk.
im p1ssed off coz channel 4 r wastemanz.
der is no need, channel 4 r jus biased."

[DPS]

Are the Costa Rican moderators approving these posts or what?

"bun channel 4 (http://greatunmute.habbo.com/?p=193)

idk.
im p1ssed off coz channel 4 r wastemanz.
der is no need, channel 4 r jus biased."

http://oi47.tinypic.com/fy0q4i.jpg

[xxMATTGxx]

News BBC article:


Habbo Hotel opens separate site to seek users' views

Troubled children's social network Habbo Hotel has moved to deal with fallout from revelations that the service was frequented by paedophiles.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18518785

[DPS]

News BBC article:



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18518785

LOL wow.. so it starts already ;/

[Puma!]

Love how they have to be reviewed.. mine is just one big criticism of the outsourcing and moderation.


Also, interesting how Paul L. won't answer questions on it.. Safer habbo means no outsourcing of moderation.

moderation (wrote three times.. lol)

[Mathew]

Ughhhhhh, why do they insist on calling us all children?

The new Hotel alerts look funny, haha.

[xxMATTGxx]

Is there any way to browse them all?

[David]

GoldenMerc; famous

http://icap.me/i/zJT1mxw1XG.png

[GoldenMerc]

@GoldenMerc (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=26925); famous

http://icap.me/i/zJT1mxw1XG.png

think i posted it like 10 times, it never told me it posted untill the last one

[Puma!]

Some of the answers are pathetic though

"More habbo helpers to improve the game" - did habbo write that themselves?

[Bob1]

https://twitter.com/PaulLaFo/status/215434747541860353

This is in regards of your views not being shown to everyone first and will go through a review process or whatever you call it.
LOL hilarious, I've actually sat and read some of the submissions and they are exactly what everyone was expecting, such a waste of time because the actual constructive criticism wont be posted or taken notice of.

But they will approve these posts, some highlights:

Maybe have an adult hotel and a child hotel

torch channel 4

It's all the stupid new people who go into those rooms who are taken advantage of. Not all rooms are all about "lemme see dem titties" no.. LOL

Maybe try banning all the people who are pedophiles or try muting the people who are pedophiles.


what is there to improve on when its already perfect? you cannot improve perfection


i think that vip should be free

Another post slamming Channel 4 for being n00bs, dresing like n00bs and going into n00b rooms and that's why they found cybering....
I think I've only seen two posts that contained any sense and one of those was GoldenMerc's the other was this:

For years I believed the Habbo community was a relatively safe, neutral environment for people to gather and commune, and a chance to interact with people you wouldn't normally meet. Even after the merge, I still believe this to be the case. Personally, I like being a part of the voluntary help who strive to make things easier for others.

For a while I've felt that the moderation isn't up to standard and at times is quite ineffective. I also found myself disappointed at the direction Habbo took, promoting 'e-dating' and finding love online as well as the Valentines 2012 campaign. I felt something needed to be done but was disappointed at the manner in which it came out.

Returning to systems such as Hobbas and Habbo X's are not the answer. User-mod systems create their own set of issues and I don't think users should be given 'powers'. I think if Habbo had a more visible and effective form of moderation the trouble makers would be discouraged.

Sorry for long post, I could read these all day, I hope Sulake weren't counting on this to generate any actual ideas...

[David]

love this one

http://icap.me/i/HJMSSHgGx4.png

[GoldenMerc]

love this one

http://icap.me/i/HJMSSHgGx4.png

Something xxMATTGxx; would write

[DPS]

Ban someone tht hasnt been online for 4 years..

"Ban" would mean you cant make the account.. some of these people are ******* stupid!

[MKR&*42]

Great screening process going on, I can barely understand half of these comments because it appears that ALL KNOWLEDGE OF ENGLISH GRAMMAR HAS VANISHED. Most are repeated anyway:

hi

"i like it here"
"its fun"
"its good"

hi

"i like it here"
"its fun"
"its good"

:l.

[David]

feel sorry for the sad ******* that's got to read all of these. especially this one http://greatunmute.habbo.com/?p=253

[Kalk]

I have made a post on the Great Unmute site, but it doesn't seem to have posted. Do they have to be approved?

[Puma!]

I have made a post on the Great Unmute site, but it doesn't seem to have posted. Do they have to be approved?
Yep.. hence all the replies are "positive".

[Kasabian]

http://icap.me/i/uCgzR1Jrmx.png

GoldenMerc

---------- Post added 20-06-2012 at 03:56 PM ----------

http://icap.me/i/FHxsfPR5e3.png
RyRy? ;)

http://icap.me/i/zIBhOha5UP.png
Pipette / Samanfa ? :P

[Jordy]

It's all just awful, taking far too long to unmute too. I can't even bare to read the comments on that site after reading the first few.

So many digs at Channel 4 and most teenagers don't have the sense to understand the seriousness and complexity of the situation so I couldn't give a **** about their silly opinions. It should be internet safety experts giving their views on Habbo's security not a bunch of 11 year olds who all want to be power hungry hobbas.

[AlexJRiley]

Tbh, this is a joke.

[Bob1]

Screw it I'm copy and pasting my long ass blog post and submitting it, it should be approved purely because it's in proper English.

[GoldenMerc]

hate u Kasabian; not me tho :P

[Red]

Posted mine. I was quite critical of them so will see if it gets approved. Will be fuming to Paul if it isn't. Not a lot of space to write either. Had to cut it down :( Some of these comments are ridiculous though :l

[Absently]

It's all just awful, taking far too long to unmute too. I can't even bare to read the comments on that site after reading the first few.

So many digs at Channel 4 and most teenagers don't have the sense to understand the seriousness and complexity of the situation so I couldn't give a **** about their silly opinions. It should be internet safety experts giving their views on Habbo's security not a bunch of 11 year olds who all want to be power hungry hobbas.
It's so obvious they're only approving the ones that are like ''LUV HABBO''. Mine was pretty critical, don't think it got approved.

[Xedia]

All these positive comments supporting Habbo & Paul with their efforts is making me sick. They've hardly done anything.

[Red]

Anyone know if you get notified if your comment gets approved?

[GoldenMerc]

Anyone know if you get notified if your comment gets approved?

Nope, thought id get a email

[Red]

well thats bloody ridiculous. Think I'm wasting my time sitting refreshing waiting for them.

[AlexHenry]

It's like McDonalds keeping their stores open but not selling any burgers. ******* ridic now..

[Kasabian]

well thats bloody ridiculous. Think I'm wasting my time sitting refreshing waiting for them.

http://greatunmute.habbo.com/?p=15506

[Logandyer45]

Okay, why did Habbo open submissions 4 hours ago and now they are closing them in 6 hours? :O

http://i49.tinypic.com/nd4vgo.png

Threads merged by Jordan (Forum Super Moderator): As this thread discusses this in here

[David]

they were only ever meant to be open for today.

[Jordan]

Because thats how long they're open for, it's only open for like 12 hours today only. They did state this in the blog they wrote I believe!

[:odey:]

Could you give us some more info on this? :o
I have no idea what these submissions even are?! :S

[David]

Could you give us some more info on this? :o
I have no idea what these submissions even are?! :S

this page should explain it all :O
http://greatunmute.habbo.com/?page_id=92

[Logandyer45]

they were only ever meant to be open for today.
Oh Fhanx Dave<3

Because thats how long they're open for, it's only open for like 12 hours today only. They did state this in the blog they wrote I believe!
I don't read the blog.

Could you give us some more info on this? :o
I have no idea what these submissions even are?! :S
So, here's what you do, you go to the site and then you put your imput it. They want to hear your voice.

EDIT: Now we are down to 2 hours! :D

[Red]

Thanks Tom. How have people wrote such long comments. I posted mine in but it got cut off so had to seriously chop it down

[October]

I like how they say that The Great Unmute is for Habbos to share how they really feel about Habbo, yet they are selective over which posts they display, i.e. posting only those that say Habbo is great, but if they dig at C4 then woo...

lol @red, what did you write kirst? i'm not even going to bother writing one. i'd state i'm still a fan of habbo, but I don't like how it's managed, probs as my opening sentence, so it wouldn't get approved most likely lol.

[Red]

I like how they say that The Great Unmute is for Habbos to share how they really feel about Habbo, yet they are selective over which posts they display, i.e. posting only those that say Habbo is great, but if they dig at C4 then woo...

lol @red, what did you write kirst? i'm not even going to bother writing one. i'd state i'm still a fan of habbo, but I don't like how it's managed, probs as my opening sentence, so it wouldn't get approved most likely lol.

I think its fine to be selective as long as they put in the ones with negative comments which they seem to be doing?
http://greatunmute.habbo.com/?p=15506 That was my post anyway.

[October]

hmm i guess i'll give it a go and post mine then.

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omfg there is a character limit.....

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posted mine, called it "why is it just channel 4's fault?" cause i didn't know any better title. hope it's posted. i think i remained objective sooo

[PiippBB]

Well I've posted my views. Well, as many as I could fit. Bit silly having a character limit but I guess it's so they don't end up with heaps to read. I think the reason they're checking the comments before they are posted is more towards ensuring there's nothing said in them that shouldn't, ie, explicit material. They're posting many negative comments (some of which really don't make them look good) so I don't think they're being selective over what we see. I don't think they're looking for any more ideas from us though if I'm honest. I think they've already prepared most of what they want to implement, I think this is more something to show off to the media (although as I predicted yesterday it's kinda back fired, and there's no way they could have blocked negative comments as that would make them look even worse, seeing as we're supposed to be expressing ourselves) and something to keep us busy for a day (give us some hype and something to do) whilst they work on the new systems. It means that this week hasn't felt totally empty of Habbo for us, even though in reality it is. Hopefully C4 will use some of the positive comments this time, as well as the negative, although I doubt it; that wouldn't make a good enough story. Oh well.

Here's hoping they actually start to unmute the hotel next week (as Paul has said, although he's hardly reliable anymore, after the comments we had over the weekend) starting with the client (come on, it's the most important aspect) and we can see these changes in action.

[Samantha]

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GoldenMerc

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http://icap.me/i/FHxsfPR5e3.png
RyRy? ;)

http://icap.me/i/zIBhOha5UP.png
Pipette / Samanfa ? :P

No mine was called something like girls story LOL. Can't remember.

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Can't even see mine on list, wow.

[xxMATTGxx]

I don't believe mine was approved either, it didn't have any troll comments, bad words or anything negative. Just mentioned a way on how they could improve the moderation system.

[PiippBB]

Mine isn't up either and I posted nothing negative at all (though only because I'd already been here and heard about the checks on the comments lol). Guess it wasn't a way for us to express ourselves. Really didn't think they'd fluff this up; oh well.

[PiippBB]

Couldn't edit but I felt this was important information so I couldn't wait for someone else to post, sorry!

Paul LaFontaine ‏@PaulLaFo

@Herbal_habbo @BelieveMeSafety @5N_Beth @AstronomistUK I have 57 people advising me not to tell you it ends on Tuesday. shhh

Mute ends Tuesday! Now, in what context, and exactly what features, is anyone's guess. I'll be keeping a close eye on Paul's tweets and if he does happen to explain this further I'll be sure to post it here. Could be the client, could just be IM, could be it starts to end on Tuesday, could be they're starting it tomorrow and expecting the last features to be unmuted on Tuesday; who knows! But at least we have some kind of confirmation of some kind of date now; no more 'soon!'

And again:

Paul LaFontaine ‏@PaulLaFo

@qwkhabbo We intro hotels to communications tools early next week

[Mathew]

ughhhh why does he always do the "OMG I LEAKED!! OMG!!" thing?! :(
Intersocial; get this stuff up on Habbox man!! ;l!

[PiippBB]

Paul's opened up his Twitter for users to post items they wish to be discussed in tomorrow's staff meeting. Have to say, some of these suggestions are just ridiculous. Hobbas, the return of the hand? Hobbas were a flawed moderation system; and the hand? I think I'll keep my nice shiny inventory so that I don't need to scroll through hundreds of pages just to find the one piece of furni I want to trade. Honestly, some of these people need to stop living in the past and realise we've moved forward; moreso they need to accept that the new systems are actually better. We all like nostalgia, but that's exactly what it is, nostalgia.

[GommeInc]

Wow, natural selection missed out a lot of people if those comments are anything to go by :S This is just an ego trip for Paul LaFontaine. Is he still CEO? Habbo could solve so many of their problems if they got rid of that egotistical moron.

Also, why is it part of a Great Unmute campaign? They are acting as if Habbo have no control over the mute button, and that someone else initiated the mute :/

[xxMATTGxx]

Paul's opened up his Twitter for users to post items they wish to be discussed in tomorrow's staff meeting. Have to say, some of these suggestions are just ridiculous. Hobbas, the return of the hand? Hobbas were a flawed moderation system; and the hand? I think I'll keep my nice shiny inventory so that I don't need to scroll through hundreds of pages just to find the one piece of furni I want to trade. Honestly, some of these people need to stop living in the past and realise we've moved forward; moreso they need to accept that the new systems are actually better. We all like nostalgia, but that's exactly what it is, nostalgia.

Hobbas could easily return and be changed so there isn't any flaws like there was last time. I agree with you on the hand though :P

[MKR&*42]

ughhhh why does he always do the "OMG I LEAKED!! OMG!!" thing?! :(
@Intersocial (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=86637); get this stuff up on Habbox man!! ;l!

The other newss reporters will shout at me if I take their news :(. I don't even know what's happened for the last few pages LMAO.

[PiippBB]

Hobbas could easily return and be changed so there isn't any flaws like there was last time. I agree with you on the hand though :P

Hobbas could return, yes, but it would have to be a far superior system to the previous one. Each person applying would have to be vetted for a start, and that isn't cheap. Without professional vetting, what's to prevent a paedophile from becoming a Hobba and grooming a youngster from a position of power? This would make them more dangerous than regular users of the site, as they would be in a position of trust with the users. Then there's the problem of Hobbas abusing their power to ban Habbos who they simply take a dislike to. I'm sure there's many more problems on top which i haven't even thought of. I really don't think it's something they will bother with; as Paul has previously tweeted, it's simply a system with too many flaws. It's easier just to hire professional moderators (although they need to be professional and good at their job, which clearly they haven't been up until now) and train them up.

EDIT:

An interesting tweet here:

Divarius ‏@iDeCarmencita

@PaulLaFo Why the players over the age of Habbo.es (Spain) can not do casinos or play it?

Paul LaFontaine ‏@PaulLaFo

@iDeCarmencita Spain is clear on the rules. Gambling and casinos are not allowed so we happy to comply. thx

Strange, as I'm sure the EU bought in a legislation against encouraging, glamourising, or involving 'children' (not sure of the exact age range) in gambling of any sort. I know this, because (brace yourself this is gonna sound sad) this is the reason fruit machines were removed from the Pokemon games. I find it very strange that other EU users are permitted to be involved in casinos on Habbo. I'm not saying I would want this changed; whilst I don't have much to do with casinos myself I know just how important they are to many players, especially long term, and I think it would do a great deal of damage to Habbo in terms of the users online and playing the game if casinos were banned. They're also very important to the Habbo economy.

[Fifty-Six]

I think the hotel has grown to large for Hobbas or similar "user-mods" to work effectively. It worked when hotels were still local and much smaller, but after the merge there is just too many users for the program to work in the same manner.

[PiippBB]

I think the hotel has grown to large for Hobbas or similar "user-mods" to work effectively. It worked when hotels were still local and much smaller, but after the merge there is just too many users for the program to work in the same manner.

The helpers system is a good addition; as Paul tweeted earlier, it means users can answer simple calls where a user is asking a question to help free up the mods for actually problems; ie, the kind of material C4 uncovered. So I can see there is a room for a system like this, it's just important that the regular users aren't given real powers (other than answering calls involving questions) as it would just create more problems.

[Mathew]

Paul LaFontaine‏@PaulLaFo (http://www.habboxforum.com/#%21/PaulLaFo)
Habbos, we intro'd Helper in stages, small mkt, big mkt. New safety measures same small, big, verify, listen, check. u know the program. 1/2

what the heck does any of that mean...?

---------- Post added 20-06-2012 at 11:53 PM ----------

Paul LaFontaine‏@PaulLaFo (http://www.habboxforum.com/#%21/PaulLaFo)
2/2 for social elements we do the same. Intro chat, small and then big, watch reaction and measure results. so we roll along together.


Paul LaFontaine‏@PaulLaFo (http://www.habboxforum.com/#%21/PaulLaFo)
3/2 I now commit to actively protect our community. Seek out those who have bad intent. Habbo is a fresh look at safety. Cheers

oh there's more.
oh well, it sounds impressive whatever it is.

[PiippBB]

Paul LaFontaine‏@PaulLaFo (http://www.habboxforum.com/#%21/PaulLaFo)
Habbos, we intro'd Helper in stages, small mkt, big mkt. New safety measures same small, big, verify, listen, check. u know the program. 1/2

what the heck does any of that mean...?

I *think* (I've been doing a lot of that lately, it's really starting to hurt) he means they will introduce new safety measures and old social interactions in stages, similar to how the help system has been bought in. They'll open up a small bit, ie, IM, spend some time ensuring it works the way they want it to and they can handle it (moderation wise), then, once they're happy, they'll open up a bit more (ie, events.) I *think* this is what he means by this; it fits in with everything else we've been told so far. It's most probably because they can't really put their new systems to the test until we get to use them. No amount of professional testing will ever compare to actually putting something out there.

[xxMATTGxx]

Hobbas could return, yes, but it would have to be a far superior system to the previous one. Each person applying would have to be vetted for a start, and that isn't cheap. Without professional vetting, what's to prevent a paedophile from becoming a Hobba and grooming a youngster from a position of power? This would make them more dangerous than regular users of the site, as they would be in a position of trust with the users. Then there's the problem of Hobbas abusing their power to ban Habbos who they simply take a dislike to. I'm sure there's many more problems on top which i haven't even thought of. I really don't think it's something they will bother with; as Paul has previously tweeted, it's simply a system with too many flaws. It's easier just to hire professional moderators (although they need to be professional and good at their job, which clearly they haven't been up until now) and train them up.

EDIT:

An interesting tweet here:

Divarius ‏@iDeCarmencita

@PaulLaFo Why the players over the age of Habbo.es (Spain) can not do casinos or play it?

Paul LaFontaine ‏@PaulLaFo

@iDeCarmencita Spain is clear on the rules. Gambling and casinos are not allowed so we happy to comply. thx

Strange, as I'm sure the EU bought in a legislation against encouraging, glamourising, or involving 'children' (not sure of the exact age range) in gambling of any sort. I know this, because (brace yourself this is gonna sound sad) this is the reason fruit machines were removed from the Pokemon games. I find it very strange that other EU users are permitted to be involved in casinos on Habbo. I'm not saying I would want this changed; whilst I don't have much to do with casinos myself I know just how important they are to many players, especially long term, and I think it would do a great deal of damage to Habbo in terms of the users online and playing the game if casinos were banned. They're also very important to the Habbo economy.

Yeah don't give the Hobba role to anyone who applies, obviously do background checks, interviews maybe and other stuff to make sure they aren't anyone dodgy. Abusing power can always be solved in a way by keeping an eye on these people - I mean they must do it for moderators surely? Training can be issued. Even hiring actual moderators working for the company and in the correct timezones would benefit Habbo a lot.

They will most lilely not bring them back because they love their "Helper" so called system far too much. But the current moderation sucks, I don't know If they have changed that for when the unmute occurs we shall see.

[PiippBB]

Yeah don't give the Hobba role to anyone who applies, obviously do background checks, interviews maybe and other stuff to make sure they aren't anyone dodgy. Abusing power can always be solved in a way by keeping an eye on these people - I mean they must do it for moderators surely? Training can be issued. Even hiring actual moderators working for the company and in the correct timezones would benefit Habbo a lot.

They will most lilely not bring them back because they love their "Helper" so called system far too much. But the current moderation sucks, I don't know If they have changed that for when the unmute occurs we shall see.

Problem with all these checks is time and money. It's far easier for Sulake just to bring in a professional moderator. And I think the moderators will be a lot better now, they have to be for Habbo to survive really.

[Mathew]

I *think* (I've been doing a lot of that lately, it's really starting to hurt) he means they will introduce new safety measures and old social interactions in stages, similar to how the help system has been bought in. They'll open up a small bit, ie, IM, spend some time ensuring it works the way they want it to and they can handle it (moderation wise), then, once they're happy, they'll open up a bit more (ie, events.) I *think* this is what he means by this; it fits in with everything else we've been told so far. It's most probably because they can't really put their new systems to the test until we get to use them. No amount of professional testing will ever compare to actually putting something out there.

Ah-ha, makes sense. Thank you! Welcome to HxF, by the way! :)

[LiquidLuck.]

Does anyone really know when we're getting unmute?

Thread merged by Chris (Forum Moderator): As this thread already discusses the mute!

[xxMATTGxx]

Problem with all these checks is time and money. It's far easier for Sulake just to bring in a professional moderator. And I think the moderators will be a lot better now, they have to be for Habbo to survive really.

Let's hope they have improved.

[Mathew]

New?

http://i.imgur.com/SMU3G.png

[PiippBB]

Ah-ha, makes sense. Thank you! Welcome to HxF, by the way! :)

Thanks! :) I've been here for years reading the posts, but when the mute happened I decided I needed my voice to be heard and to air my opinions.

And to the poster above me, yes, I'm sure the moderators will be much more vigilant now. As I said, they have to be for Habbo to survive. Other features will help though; educating the younger users for a start and removing (or modifying) certain pieces of furni, such as the Kissing Booth and a zero tolerance on rooms encouraging situations which could lead to these problems (such as sexy singles) will certainly help. Also, the helper tool will help, as it frees up the mods to deal with the serious issues instead of just answering basic questions.

[GommeInc]

Paul LaFontaine‏@PaulLaFo
3/2 I now commit to actively protect our community. Seek out those who have bad intent. Habbo is a fresh look at safety. Cheers

oh there's more.
oh well, it sounds impressive whatever it is.
Too little too late, his whole attitude is pretty stupid in a CEO point of view. He shouldn't need to take a fresh look at safety, he should of been keeping Habbo in order the moment he stepped into the CEO position. What the heck has he been doing since September? Bigging up his twitter ego? He's not a CEO, he's a public relations officer. He has no qualities of a CEO.

Also, I'm interested in what they're going to do with the moderators. If they're still inactive on Habbo surely it's going to fail again? They need moderators who are active in the hotel, not pushing buttons in a system being distant and unaccountable.

[Jordan]

My comment on that great unmute hasn't been approved yet :( And did anyone notice yesterday that if they logged onto Habbo in the text box it had coding in it. That was all :P

[Jarkie]

New?

http://i.imgur.com/SMU3G.png

What the hell.. LOL?! no doubt all the hardly english reading moderators will see the word "help me so and so said *REMOVED* off to me" will auto give you this ban thingy.

Edited by Chris (Forum Moderator): Please do not avoid the filter!

[Mathew]

What the hell.. LOL?! no doubt all the hardly english reading moderators will see the word "help me so and so said *REMOVED* off to me" will auto give you this ban thingy.
Yep, it's crazy. The first time I got it, it let me send another after a minute or so. The second time, it wasn't so lenient! The stupid thing is that they said "the call for help is only for emergency help or account issues". Then when I tell them my account issue, they refer me to the help tool which is of zero help too (as they just told me to read the FAQs ). Absolutely ridiculous.

[Jarkie]

Yep, it's crazy. The first time I got it, it let me send another after a minute or so. The second time, it wasn't so lenient! The stupid thing is that they said "the call for help is only for emergency help or account issues". Then when I tell them my account issue, they refer me to the help tool which is of zero help too (as they just told me to read the FAQs ). Absolutely ridiculous.

urgh when will the guys at sulake see that their moderating system is so pants. You would think with this resent thing with C4 etc, they would hire people that can read English at a proficiency of a minimum of IELTS (International English Language Testing System) band 6.0. If they did that the Hotel would be a better place foreveryone and perhaps clear up all them unfair warnings and bans.

P.s. Just the other day I got warned for Bullying... I have no idea how I was bullying, all I was doing was 'boosting'.. LOL and we can't even chat lmao.

[xxMATTGxx]

New article on the Sulake site:


Response to the Great Unmute and a New Era of ‘Protected Democracy’ for Habbo Hotel

The initial response to The Great Unmute was much larger than we could have predicted and it took some time to deploy additional servers to get the site running smoothly. We received a high number of submissions over the six hour period, many of which are still being moderated. This was always intended to be a forum for legitimate users and – although we will not be moderating the main site in the same way – the blocking of inappropriate conversations is a sign of things to come for Habbo.

We are continuing to upload content and will share with the world more than 10,000 thoughtful, balanced opinions from our responsible users. My team and I are reading them all and encourage parents and anyone else involved or concerned to do the same.

The teens and young people who inhabit our site have spoken in a mature, united and compelling voice. They have articulated the practical and personal benefits of a virtual community for a demographic full of young people still discovering themselves and their place in the real world.

The content generated by The Great Unmute will inform and direct my long term plan for the Habbo community, already in advanced draft form. When I finally allow the online community to speak again, it will be an era of ‘Protected Democracy’. By that, I mean a regulated environment that protects the free speech, as well as the safety and interests, of the legitimate user community. I understand these interests better because of The Great Unmute.

Protected Democracy is a new concept that we are pioneering in a poorly regulated social gaming industry. It can only be realised through a mix of technology, moderation, education and engagement. This is a complex combination that cannot be achieved in a single step. That is why I will turn the Habbo site back on in phases, focusing on specific markets to test the new technology. Before then I will be carrying out live tests (beginning in Finland today), to ensure our new systems are delivering the improved safety levels we anticipate.

The first phases of the Great Go-Live will commence early next week. At that point I will come back again and explain how site safety has already been improved as well as our long term plans to deliver a sustainable future for this valuable and valued online global community.


http://www.sulake.com/blog/entries/a-response-to-the-great-unmute-and-a-new-era-of-protected-democracy-for-habbo-hotel#.T-MVSfrDJrw.twitter

[Dublyu]

To be completely honest, Sulake have had this coming for some time now.

Employing staff members that users find complex to speak with in terms of having them understanding is their biggest mistake they could have made. Instead of having moderation from (SG) they should have it varied throughout the merged hotels giving users different options and if one was struggling with a moderator having it referred on to the next.

Sulake also became abit silent in terms of moderation. Never seeing moderation and rarely receiving any notices\alerts or feedback in regards to any queries. Most habbo's referring the moderation team as useless where as before it would seem that there was one moderator in 5 that would be deemed "useless" which would be usually due to personal conflicts with the moderators. Habbo's not hearing what they want.

There is never going to be a 100% protected habbo community because there is no such thing, only reduces the chances of these online predators and trolls growing their own communities and causing uproars on the realworld. I use this terminology strictly because I do not want to go into details of paedophilia. Hopefully habbo will tighten it's security, moderation, safety, keeping users alerted to any changes in safety in the hotel. I would definately say bringing the hobba programme back, if not that then definately something that is an improved version. That seems to be what sulake is all about at the moment, out with the old in with the new. For example, having identifications photocopied (as before), telephone interviews, disclosures and potential webcam interviews. This is alot of time and effort but due to the channel 4 news report I believe they'd rather be safe than sorry. Whatever they decide to do, fingers crossed it really improves the site.

[Puma!]

To be completely honest, Sulake have had this coming for some time now.

Employing staff members that users find complex to speak with in terms of having them understanding is their biggest mistake they could have made. Instead of having moderation from (SG) they should have it varied throughout the merged hotels giving users different options and if one was struggling with a moderator having it referred on to the next.

Sulake also became abit silent in terms of moderation. Never seeing moderation and rarely receiving any notices\alerts or feedback in regards to any queries. Most habbo's referring the moderation team as useless where as before it would seem that there was one moderator in 5 that would be deemed "useless" which would be usually due to personal conflicts with the moderators. Habbo's not hearing what they want.

There is never going to be a 100% protected habbo community because there is no such thing, only reduces the chances of these online predators and trolls growing their own communities and causing uproars on the realworld. I use this terminology strictly because I do not want to go into details of paedophilia. Hopefully habbo will tighten it's security, moderation, safety, keeping users alerted to any changes in safety in the hotel. I would definately say bringing the hobba programme back, if not that then definately something that is an improved version. That seems to be what sulake is all about at the moment, out with the old in with the new. For example, having identifications photocopied (as before), telephone interviews, disclosures and potential webcam interviews. This is alot of time and effort but due to the channel 4 news report I believe they'd rather be safe than sorry. Whatever they decide to do, fingers crossed it really improves the site.

I agree with the hobba part completely. Surely it would make sense to Sulake too - hobbas are volunteers, meaning the cost of having them on the website is minimal (maybe staff training.. but surely Sulake managers won't be busy the entire day?). That means no expensive cost of hiring more moderators (AND they could work directly under Sulake offices.. not the outsourced MODs), but also ensures the safety of the hotel too.

However, the actual checking of who can and cannot become a hobba should be made a lot stricter - specifically no affiliation to any fansite whatsoever, no bans (especially on different accounts) and regular checks to ensure hobbas are doing their job correctly. Also keep the minimum age requirement of 18, maybe even raise it to 21 if they want added 'maturity'.

The previous hobba system went downhill with a small group of hobbas who were affiliated to fansites (rareboy being a big culprit.. saw him on duty once in two years, but always was in various fansite rooms abusing his powers) but with stringent checks it can be prevented. It's just a shame Paul L. won't really comment on the system apart from saying "it didn't work" - would like to see a better explination to why.

[Red]

I agree with the hobba part completely. Surely it would make sense to Sulake too - hobbas are volunteers, meaning the cost of having them on the website is minimal (maybe staff training.. but surely Sulake managers won't be busy the entire day?). That means no expensive cost of hiring more moderators (AND they could work directly under Sulake offices.. not the outsourced MODs), but also ensures the safety of the hotel too.

However, the actual checking of who can and cannot become a hobba should be made a lot stricter - specifically no affiliation to any fansite whatsoever, no bans (especially on different accounts) and regular checks to ensure hobbas are doing their job correctly. Also keep the minimum age requirement of 18, maybe even raise it to 21 if they want added 'maturity'.

The previous hobba system went downhill with a small group of hobbas who were affiliated to fansites (rareboy being a big culprit.. saw him on duty once in two years, but always was in various fansite rooms abusing his powers) but with stringent checks it can be prevented. It's just a shame Paul L. won't really comment on the system apart from saying "it didn't work" - would like to see a better explination to why.

Actually would hate to see any system like hobbas/xs introduced. They were a security risk for one. Not to mention elitist and any future programme is obviously going to be based on favouritism. The current mods were meant to watch over and control the top levels of cms who have powers? They can barley do their own job properly never mind watch over habbos. Your idea of selection isn't very fair since I have only had a few bans but all of them were a mistake of the moderators which I appealed. I'm sure many people have had similar bans that they did not deserve. Habbos don't need to be doing a job, which should be done by highly trained staff.

[Dublyu]

My point exactly. When a system fails, you renew the system and make it work.

[Red]

Which they have done by introducing habbo helpers I'm guessing?! Taking away things like ability to override rooms and letting people work their way up.

[Dublyu]

I wouldn't class Habbo Helpers as fully functioning as yet. Yeah they've had BETA tests and that but it takes atleast a year to see the results of something like that. It may make a dent, it may not. The proof will be in the pudding !

[Puma!]

Actually would hate to see any system like hobbas/xs introduced. They were a security risk for one. Not to mention elitist and any future programme is obviously going to be based on favouritism. The current mods were meant to watch over and control the top levels of cms who have powers? They can barley do their own job properly never mind watch over habbos. Your idea of selection isn't very fair since I have only had a few bans but all of them were a mistake of the moderators which I appealed. I'm sure many people have had similar bans that they did not deserve. Habbos don't need to be doing a job, which should be done by highly trained staff.

First off Hobbas/Habbo X system were two different systems - Habbo X to me served no purpose whatsoever, it was basically a load of kids with a few more powers than a normal habbo. Hobbas had to be over 18 (post 2003) and gnerally dealt with bans/mutes/kicks. How both systems worked were entirely different - although I do think the hobba system became elitist towards the end. But I'd argue that was a lot to do with fansite affiliations and a load of nepotism (by a small group of hobbas.. I mentioned one in a previous post).

That can be changed though - again, nepotism can be removed quite easily. Removing any fansite affiliation would be a great start. Also like a Sulake staff member to ensure that people aren't abusing their powers. The early hobba system had some brilliant people working, the people who worked and did a bit of talking to others - no abuse of the hobba system. The problem like any user moderation system is that a majority will remember the select few who abused the system and not those who actually worked.

I do agree how exceptions should be made with regards to bans. It was really meant to be more 'serious' bans (scamming, permanent ban etc). But again, it should be looked at - I remember a former hobba who had a second account to script? (no names being named).

The entire logic for reintroducing the hobba system is because of cost. Moderators were outsourced for cost (as all outsourcing is.. to save money), a new moderator system would cost a lot of money and would take a fair bit to implement. Training costs money. Habbo will want to ensure profit margins are kept as high as possible (Hobba system would take a fair bit of time to get going, but it isn't going to cost anything. Also, habbo has a pretty good group of over 18's on the hotel - loads of them go on to just talk, not to be suck-ups to well-known habbos.

With a fair bit of tweaking and a lot more scrutiny, the hobba system COULD work. But again, a lot of work is needed to make the system effective.

---------- Post added 21-06-2012 at 05:03 PM ----------


Which they have done by introducing habbo helpers I'm guessing?! Taking away things like ability to override rooms and letting people work their way up.
Yeah and it's a step forward..

But to me, there seems to be no link between the habbo helper system and the MOD team - there aren't enough MODs to deal with CFH's.

[Dublyu]

If you can remember back to 01/EARLY 02 with Wenders working in the london office. The concept of mini me's was being spoken about and was supposed to be implemented which wasn't. This seems to be the new 'Habbo Helper' concept which is basically rapping the idea. If only they had implemented this 10 years ago maybe things could have had a complete turn around however I feel this would have been scrapped alongside hobba's and habbo X's. I don't think this is going to be a permanent form of moderation and I feel once the novelty has worn off it will end up being dead in the dirt. That's just my opinion though and would like to be proved wrong.

[Storking]

They should pay for some higher quality staff rather than ask users to voluntarily moderate...

Although after the loss of investors, I doubt they can afford that now. :P

[Kasabian]

If anyone's interested, Habbo will be on the news on Channel 4 at 7pm - hearing from teenagers this time.

[MKR&*42]

My friends caught onto this paedophile thing on Habbo now lmao (bit slow) :( A few of them know I "used" (;)) to play it so they think I'm a pedo now LMAO.

Will probably watch that ^^

[Jordan]

Interested in the debate tonight with the teenagers views, I think it will be focusing more on the better parts of Habbo this time around. Especially with the questions they wanted us to answer.

[Zak]

Too little too late, his whole attitude is pretty stupid in a CEO point of view. He shouldn't need to take a fresh look at safety, he should of been keeping Habbo in order the moment he stepped into the CEO position. What the heck has he been doing since September? Bigging up his twitter ego? He's not a CEO, he's a public relations officer. He has no qualities of a CEO.

Also, I'm interested in what they're going to do with the moderators. If they're still inactive on Habbo surely it's going to fail again? They need moderators who are active in the hotel, not pushing buttons in a system being distant and unaccountable.

This is why I have so much respect for you on here. You actually know what you're talking about and I agree with what you say (90% of the time). +REP

[Jordan]

They actually have/had a Habbo user on the show to talk about it (I think, relying on what I saw in the preview though)

[MKR&*42]

Isn't that DeepMeaning or something, swear she made a post on the forum. In the preview of the Habbo debate?

I'll find her post.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=750939&p=7566423#post7566423 ?

Or am I seeing things :O.

[Red]

Ahh Did I miss it? Yea it probably was. They messaged her on the twitter account.

[PiippBB]

Oh dear. Paul was just asked on Twitter if he knows when the .com hotel will be unmuted and he said he doesn't. So, as for saying yesterday it would be Tuesday next week, he was obviously spinning lies again. I'm pretty sure we'll be the last hotel unmuted to be honest, sounds like it could be weeks away. :(

[Jordan]

Oh dear. Paul was just asked on Twitter if he knows when the .com hotel will be unmuted and he said he doesn't. So, as for saying yesterday it would be Tuesday next week, he was obviously spinning lies again. I'm pretty sure we'll be the last hotel unmuted to be honest, sounds like it could be weeks away. :(

He tweeted earlier saying that it's happening on Monday.

[,Abbey]

Lol at the people who said shut it down :O

[MKR&*42]

Ahh Did I miss it? Yea it probably was. They messaged her on the twitter account.

It was only a preview, the whole thing hasn't been done yet :P + oh right.

Deapmeaning^ I meant earlier.

[Kasabian]

It's on channel 4 now guys.

[Michael]

Habbo is on channel 4 now!

[Jordan]

LMAO i'm laughing they're like "I've even got the 100% badge" and yes that was deepmeaning

[TonyBest]

Kept it right to the end, and i was looking to watch Futurama too

[Michael]

LMAO i'm laughing they're like "I've even got the 100% badge" and yes that was deepmeaning

Haha 'olowe07' is famous!

[Red]

The one with glasses and the boy is annoying. omg popular gaming room :l never heard of u in my life!!!

[xxMATTGxx]

Oh hello

http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?username=xDenmianx

[Jon]

The one with glasses and the boy is annoying. omg popular gaming room :l never heard of u in my life!!!

Quoted for truth. some valid points going about and then BANG one of these two will butt in and thats that point ignored.


Edit: The deathstare the girl with the hat gave the guy there was hilarious.

[Kasabian]

The girl with glasses use(d) habbox, btw. xDenmianx

[Bob1]

Well olowe07 is talking a lot of sense, good for him. Quite an interesting "debate"

[Jordan]

I thought most of that was pointless. Nothing major was got out of it, and if it did the topic on it didn't stay. Especially poor moderation, that was touched for about 10 seconds.

[Red]

Well that was crap. Half of the points that I would of liked to have been said wasn't even brought up. Half of the time I was thinking GET A GRIP.

[Jon]

And thats that. Was quite a interesting debate, but i wonder if anything will come of it. Or will it just be more ammo to be used negatively against Habbo?

Time shall tell n' all that

[Michael]

I wonder how much they got payed to diss Habbo.

[Kyle]

how did that girl not know what sex was at 13 what a liar

never heard of any of them they should have put some famous habbos up there!!

[Puma!]

Well olowe07 is talking a lot of sense, good for him. Quite an interesting "debate"

I like him too - sounded a bit more level headed than the rest.

[Jurv]

i'm watching it now on channel 4+1

---------- Post added 21-06-2012 at 08:02 PM ----------

wasn't that deepmeaning person the one that argued in the sexuality thread with cerys lmao

[xxMATTGxx]

Missed it? You can watch it by going to:

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid601325122001?bckey=AQ~~,AAAAAEabvr4~,Wtd2HT-p_Vh4qBcIZDrvZlvNCU8nxccG&bctid=1700847975001

[AgnesIO]

Missed it? You can watch it by going to:

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid601325122001?bckey=AQ~~,AAAAAEabvr4~,Wtd2HT-p_Vh4qBcIZDrvZlvNCU8nxccG&bctid=1700847975001
Or http://www.channel4.com/news/habbo-hotel-the-debate :)

[Xedia]

God that deepmeaning girl is desperate -.- She's been spamming everywhere.

[Red]

Someone asked..

Paul we have to wait another week till we talk?????

not a week, a few days. thanks

Sometime this week then? His answer always changes..

[GoldenMerc]

Earlier he said tuesday, now hes saying monday Red;

[PiippBB]

Earlier he said tuesday, now hes saying monday Red;

He's said it depends on the hotel. He's said Tuesday, Monday, then he said he didn't know. Now he's saying next week, when someone said that we still have to wait a week he replied by saying 'no, a few days' and now he's saying it all depends on which hotel. He's said Brazil will be an early hotel but as for the UK it could be anyone's guess. I would imagine we'll be last to be honest. But at least we know it's definitely next week, and by the sounds of it early next week, so Monday or Tuesday seems most probable.

[Xedia]

He'll probably add another week, take away 2 days, add another day, and then we'll be finally unmuted.

[PiippBB]

He'll probably add another week, take away 2 days, add another day, and then we'll be finally unmuted.

And even then we'll probably have some big campaign to promote the unmute only for the campaign to turn out to be a total sham to encourage users to post their thoughts an a completely different webpage so that Sulake have some to show off to the media. To prevent users from slating the site and giving the media more ammunition they will moderate the whole thing despite telling us we can post our full views and opinions so that only the most positive comments are posted.

Oh... wait...

[GoldenMerc]

I'd like to know what there struggling about but then again, reading all the stuff they've done on Habbo.fi sort of made me think, Habbo are blaming its players / clients on why its got in this sort of mess, we are now being held down, Instead of them getting better moderators and a more mature filter they have taken the cheaper option (again) and gone with changing the game to work with the current moderators.

[qaxzsw]

oh god, that habbo debate shown tonight really has shown me why I don't use habbo anymore... cringe at them

[j0rd]

http://www.channel4.com/news/habbo-hotel-the-debate

Anyone seen this, was on C4 earlier.
It's a debate with 4 habbo users, some saying they've been on for years and yet have no idea what they are talking about. Where did they find these?

[Xedia]

http://www.channel4.com/news/habbo-hotel-the-debate

Anyone seen this, was on C4 earlier.
It's a debate with 4 habbo users, some saying they've been on for years and yet have no idea what they are talking about. Where did they find these?

It was posted above lol, and they found them on twitter.

[j0rd]

It was posted above lol, and they found them on twitter.

After posting I read the previous pages and seen it

[Special]

why is everyone even muted?

[Fifty-Six]

why is everyone even muted?

Because Channel 4 exposed sexual behiavour in the hotel. Muting was Habbo's knee-jerk reaction.

[Zak]

I hope Channel 4 does this again after Sulake's "improvements" and broadcast the results.. I'm sure they're likely to have the same thing happen again by the looks of it.

I sent a call of help or report or what ever it was, suggesting how the problem could be solved. All I got back was an automated message saying "It's all ok the problem has been resolved" or something along those lines :/

[Dublyu]

I sent a call of help or report or what ever it was, suggesting how the problem could be solved. All I got back was an automated message saying "It's all ok the problem has been resolved" or something along those lines :/

Kinda says to me in terms of moderation they still don't have humane moderation or English speaking moderation who actually care :/ especially with the public eye being on them you would think they would have this as a number one priority...

[JamesJr]

This is an e-mail I got from [email protected] regarding my video I posted on the Great Unmute:


Hey guys,

We loved your videos! Can you send me the raw videos that you loaded to YouTube?

Is it ok if we use these videos for our compilation video? We may edit parts of your video.


UK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag_n2780leE (bluesilver1992)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfXFdK73VFE&feature=youtube_gdata_player (crouchj10)

DE
http://www.myimg.de/?img=Habboexpierence0bfe6.png (l3rian)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag_n2780leE (enrico.spiel)

Thanks

Jason

Screen capture incase someone doesn't believe me! http://i.imgur.com/x4Mch.png

[lawrawrrr]

This is an e-mail I got from [email protected] regarding my video I posted on the Great Unmute:

which ones you?? :D

[JamesJr]

which ones you?? :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfXFdK73VFE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

CrouchJ10 also known as JamesWC on the USA hotel.


It will be interesting to see what parts of my video they use. I was very critical I think.

[GOLD-VICAR]

Return of Hobba's or something similar soon?

[Dublyu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfXFdK73VFE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

CrouchJ10 also known as JamesWC on the USA hotel.


It will be interesting to see what parts of my video they use. I was very critical I think.

I just rejoined Habbo as of last week James from being a member from July 2001. I think I share the same opinions as yourself. Moderation should be shown and not hidden, this giving parents a knowledge that there is some sort of protection on the website. I do think having bikini's, swimming trunks is abit much but I get the reason why they've done that due to the beach furniture but this just lures the habbo's that do the whole cyber thing to hop into a pixel bed.

[GommeInc]

Is Paul still CEO? Wake me up when he's been kicked out.

In other news, the Habbo Helpers and any other low-key, low-level, useless squads of Habbos never work. The only system that was effective was the Hobba system. Helpers lack any sort of powers to be of any use, especially in cases where Habbos may be discussing anything unsavoury and potentially illegal.

EDIT: Make Omar the CEO, he has this thing called a brain. That debate was quite interesting, he has a good head on his shoulders and it does pick out what is wrong with a site aimed at teens - experimenting with sexuality.

Habbo could probably do something with this, a Q&A session or something - a bit like FRANK, but for sexuality. If done correctly, it could avoid over-sexualising Habbo, in a controlled environment.

[Abdicators]

Is Paul still CEO? Wake me up when he's been kicked out.

In other news, the Habbo Helpers and any other low-key, low-level, useless squads of Habbos never work. The only system that was effective was the Hobba system. Helpers lack any sort of powers to be of any use, especially in cases where Habbos may be discussing anything unsavoury and potentially illegal.

EDIT: Make Omar the CEO, he has this thing called a brain. That debate was quite interesting, he has a good head on his shoulders and it does pick out what is wrong with a site aimed at teens - experimenting with sexuality.

Habbo could probably do something with this, a Q&A session or something - a bit like FRANK, but for sexuality. If done correctly, it could avoid over-sexualising Habbo, in a controlled environment.

You're as bad as a politician talking on matters which you have poorly researched. Helpers are going to have the ability to unlock the power to kick, mute and room ban users. Hobbas cannot be brought back in as they were, this is an effective alternative.

Omar, is a very arrogant and obnoxious teenager. He seems incredibly rude (he kept very abruptly interrupting the females talking), and whilst a good debate can be healthy, he very poorly illustrated his ability to listen to other users. On his twitter account he talks about how he's a social media expert, and that he dislikes people tweeting him about Habbo, yet when i've back-tracked there's not a single post about social media, and his Habbo avatar's motto is actually his twitter identity.

A Q&A session would not work, too many users in too many localizations to effectively govern a Q&A.

You say that Omar picks out what is wrong with a site aimed at teens, but he doesn't. He echo's the concerns of Channel 4. Paul was brought into Habbo with no knowledge of how badly governed the hotel was, in addition to the poor financial state. He's made Sulake money since he's been CEO, and is doing a great job at ensuring the hotel is safe for young teens - the audience it is based for. It isn't aimed at 17, or 20 year olds who spoke in that report.

[osvaldod]

this video will explain the problem :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcqmoUh-wr0
he got banned cuz he wanted to rise safety issues... and know habbo is having that problem...


thanks!(yn) any little help will make the difference:p

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[Red]

what....So why did he get banned?
Can't pronounce unbanned either :(

[GommeInc]

You're as bad as a politician talking on matters which you have poorly researched. Helpers are going to have the ability to unlock the power to kick, mute and room ban users. Hobbas cannot be brought back in as they were, this is an effective alternative.
All completely useless tools. Actual banning would be more useful and the ability to remove rooms completely. Back when i used Habbo people would just create a new account and meet up in the same room they were banned in - and that was for legitimate reasons. Also, they can only find problematic Habbos by being in the same room. As a system they're useless, they might as well bolster the mod system and do away with a volunteer system which is just window dressing on the actual problem.


Omar, is a very arrogant and obnoxious teenager. He seems incredibly rude (he kept very abruptly interrupting the females talking), and whilst a good debate can be healthy, he very poorly illustrated his ability to listen to other users. On his twitter account he talks about how he's a social media expert, and that he dislikes people tweeting him about Habbo, yet when i've back-tracked there's not a single post about social media, and his Habbo avatar's motto is actually his twitter identity.
Being arrogant and obnoxious doesn't make him wrong. The girls were completely missing the point in so many ways - it's still unacceptable for these sorts of things to appear on Habbo. They were diverting away from the point of the debate and were just talking about how they lost their virginity and were meeting up with people they met on Habbo.


A Q&A session would not work, too many users in too many localizations to effectively govern a Q&A.
Can't argue with you there, after that was posted it seemed like a stupid idea that wouldn't work :P If it was Habbo.co.uk and not Habbo.com it would work, because UK users can be talked to about UK laws and cultural understandings. Like you said, too many users in too many different locations.


You say that Omar picks out what is wrong with a site aimed at teens, but he doesn't. He echo's the concerns of Channel 4. Paul was brought into Habbo with no knowledge of how badly governed the hotel was, in addition to the poor financial state. He's made Sulake money since he's been CEO, and is doing a great job at ensuring the hotel is safe for young teens - the audience it is based for. It isn't aimed at 17, or 20 year olds who spoke in that report.
Which are real concerns - not how they lost their virginity which is all I understood from the girls, who then completely glazed over the fact that these sorts of discussions shouldn't be on a site like Habbo. He was bringing up that important fact all the time :P

Paul is still an incredibly arrogant, egotistical and ignorant man. He is the CEO of Sulake, he should of put his ship in order in a manner of weeks when he was chosen as CEO (despite the fact it should of been under control pre-Paul, the blame rests on everyone involved with Habbo, but Paul is an exception because he's taking control and avoiding the fact that he messed up big time). He's also lost Sulake a hell of a lot of money as CEO, probably more than he's actual made considering it's a two multi-million investments he's lost. Habbo should of been safe before the report. They should get rid of him, his Twitter is evidence to just what a prat he is - lying, deleting tweets, deceitful and not reading the report before it was published - which could of prepared him for the carnage or get him to fix the problems. He's incredibly incompetent.

[Fifty-Six]

What did he even do?

[SorryDude]

He promoted Child Safety on Habbo vigorously. Posted his last video, and saying his official good-bye to the habbo community.

[Fifty-Six]

But what does "promoting child safety" entail? Did he openly criticize Habbo or something?

[Perfected]

So, I was reading up about the mute update as given by Paul.

It sounds like it's going to be another week or so before at the least before I see Habbo unmuted in my region, which I'm not too surprised for. What I am bothered by is this roundabout phrasing about what the hotel is going to be like when it comes back.


Next week I will share details of the new features we are introducing. You already know about the Safety Quiz and the limited chat we are working on now. There are many other new features. Be assured that you will be able to earn greater levels of free expression in an experience progression model you have seen in Habbo Helpers. We are seeking to make the site safer, not limit the appropriate topics you like to share with friends.

The post can be found here (http://blog.habbo.com/2012/06/21/mute-update-from-paul/).

I'm beginning to wonder if that joke I made about Habbo chat being changed over to a dropdown, pre-written chat system isn't too far off... What do you guys think this means?

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[SackRace]

Maybe like you club penguin lmao. You can't type you need to select what you want to type nd that

[Fifty-Six]

Crazy. I hope the final level at least ends in "free" chat. The majority of those who went to the sex rooms were underage and new to Habbo, so I can see how their inexperience would limit their chat and subsequently cut down on the sexual interactions.

[DPS]

Blogs been updated again, Paul is talking crap again.

He said the unmute would start today but clearly he has lied to everyone again.

[JamesJr]

Finland screenshots:


http://www.iaza.com/work/120622C/iaza13482280364700.png
http://www.iaza.com/work/120622C/iaza13482288438000.png
http://mattgarner.net/upload/images/2012/06/21/vkndF.png

According to sources, when you say a censored word the locks appear.

[lawrawrrr]

Blogs been updated again, Paul is talking crap again.

He said the unmute would start today but clearly he has lied to everyone again.

to be fair today's barely even started so you can't accuse him of lying yet!

[Mathew]

Who are the four Habbos then? Why would you put yourself on the news to discuss Habbo LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO don't they know anyone irl?!?! Omg....

[MKR&*42]

Ok I did support Paul about 1 week ago, but now I've lost all faith lmao :(.

-comments later on @ better keyboard-. :l

[Mathew]

Ok I did support Paul about 1 week ago, but now I've lost all faith lmao :(.

-comments later on @ better keyboard-. :l

same. I thought it was a biased report at first but now I think they deserve it all. After dealing with Katharina for the past few days, I am really not surprised they are struggling. Time to get some new moderators and stop messing around.

Also this is the Omar kid? http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=751763

[xxMATTGxx]

same. I thought it was a biased report at first but now I think they deserve it all. After dealing with Katharina for the past few days, I am really not surprised they are struggling. Time to get some new moderators and stop messing around.

Also this is the Omar kid? http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=751763

Yeah that's him.

[MKR&*42]

same. I thought it was a biased report at first but now I think they deserve it all. After dealing with Katharina for the past few days, I am really not surprised they are struggling. Time to get some new moderators and stop messing around.

Also this is the Omar kid? http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=751763

I'm still shocked Katharina is still working here, she is a disgraceful customer support member. Also, I swear everyone of those Habbo members on TV has an acc. on here? No?. Ik DeapMeaning and Omar did ^ but I didn't catch the other 2 names.

I guarantee they haven't even altered moderators atm. They've probably done this "great unmute" site and this ridiculous approved word list and that's it lol.

[DPS]

to be fair today's barely even started so you can't accuse him of lying yet!

Well if you read it.. it clearly says nothing about today, and only next week.

[Kardan]

Hopefully what is happening to .FI gets put around the world, it's a good step forward. It'll be interesting how users develop the ability for free speech. I mean, it stops people coming on to the site and immediately having access to under-age children, and if they do get free speech and they get banned, it'll take them a while to get back on presumably.

[DPS]

Well the new system will be perfect if and only if.. it has alot of words.

[lawrawrrr]

Well if you read it.. it clearly says nothing about today, and only next week.

Techically they have started the unmute so yeah. I'm not surprised .com hasn't been mentioned tbh, as far as I'm aware it's the biggest hotel and that means more difficult to control/moderate properly, they need to iron out bugs and ideas on smaller hotels first!

[DPS]

Techically they have started the unmute so yeah. I'm not surprised .com hasn't been mentioned tbh, as far as I'm aware it's the biggest hotel and that means more difficult to control/moderate properly, they need to iron out bugs and ideas on smaller hotels first!

Well its proof with the IP Lock on Habbo.fi that hardly anyone in Finland uses that hotel, checked it all day yesterday and had less than 500 on at all times.

But i dont see the mute being over till next week.

[lawrawrrr]

Well its proof with the IP Lock on Habbo.fi that hardly anyone in Finland uses that hotel, checked it all day yesterday and had less than 500 on at all times.

But i dont see the mute being over till next week.

Which makes sense to use it as the pilot hotel then! Neither do I, possibly even longer before everything's properly back.

[DPS]

Which makes sense to use it as the pilot hotel then! Neither do I, possibly even longer before everything's properly back.

I've given up on Sulake and the stupid CEO.

[lawrawrrr]

I've given up on Sulake and the stupid CEO.

Good for you? I don't exactly understand why. Paul's not done anything wrong IMO. Well nothing that​ terrible anyway.

[Red]

I'm dreading to see what restrictive measures they are going to put on our chat. :(
.com hasn't been the pilot hotel for awhile I thought? lawrawrrr;
I think because the scandal was here in the uk, we will be last :{

[MKR&*42]

.es and .com.br are much bigger than the .com. Also, someone said in a thread somewhere that .com would probably be the last to close - I'd imagine that to be incorrect because .com.br and .es have had a lot more campaigns than .com (International) and their userbase is a lot bigger = more revenue for Sulake.

.com has 11 moderators (apparently)
.com.br has 11 as well (apparently)
.es has about 20 or so.

Quite weird, the Portugese site is much bigger yet they don't differ in moderation size? :L

---
lawrawrrr; Red; Habbo.fi is the pilot hotel yes. But now and then it's .com (e.g. the Bots) and occasionally somewhere else - e.g. habbo.se had the new homepage first.

[DPS]

Good for you? I don't exactly understand why. Paul's not done anything wrong IMO. Well nothing that​ terrible anyway.

LOL... Hes full of crap.

Yeah he might be an active CEO but that doesnt make up for how much of a ***** the man really is, and how much he lies.
Over the last week and half hes said things and not done them.

[Jordan]

I thought the pilot hotel was now .com, someone posted it here about it I think it was xxMATTGxx;. Why would you want to test out something completely new one a hotel so big, thats why they put it with a smaller one.

[DPS]

I'm dreading to see what restrictive measures they are going to put on our chat. :(
.com hasn't been the pilot hotel for awhile I thought? @lawrawrrr (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=61966);
I think because the scandal was here in the uk, we will be last :{

It was made pilot hotel again, but for some reason removed again lol

[lawrawrrr]

I'm dreading to see what restrictive measures they are going to put on our chat. :(
.com hasn't been the pilot hotel for awhile I thought? @lawrawrrr (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=61966);
I think because the scandal was here in the uk, we will be last :{


.es and .com.br are much bigger than the .com. Also, someone said in a thread somewhere that .com would probably be the last to close - I'd imagine that to be incorrect because .com.br and .es have had a lot more campaigns than .com (International) and their userbase is a lot bigger = more revenue for Sulake.

.com has 11 moderators (apparently)
.com.br has 11 as well (apparently)
.es has about 20 or so.

Quite weird, the Portugese site is much bigger yet they don't differ in moderation size? :L

---
@lawrawrrr (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=61966); @Red (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=81989); Habbo.fi is the pilot hotel yes. But now and then it's .com (e.g. the Bots) and occasionally somewhere else - e.g. habbo.se had the new homepage first.

There isn't any particular pilot hotel, Paul said it depends on the market of the time! I didn't know they were bigger... surely there's more players on .com than .es (considering there's like 100x the number of people in UK, USA, AUS and SG.... than spain?)


LOL... Hes full of crap.

Yeah he might be an active CEO but that doesnt make up for how much of a ***** the man really is, and how much he lies.
Over the last week and half hes said things and not done them.

He's not lied at all. He's been quite forthcoming that he doesn't know exactly when things are going to happen really! He regularly keeps in contact with Habbos on Twitter, which isn't actually part of his job. Could you provide a few examples?

[DPS]

There isn't any particular pilot hotel, Paul said it depends on the market of the time! I didn't know they were bigger... surely there's more players on .com than .es (considering there's like 100x the number of people in UK, USA, AUS and SG.... than spain?)



He's not lied at all. He's been quite forthcoming that he doesn't know exactly when things are going to happen really! He regularly keeps in contact with Habbos on Twitter, which isn't actually part of his job. Could you provide a few examples?

Wont bother giving you proof, i know what hes done, and others do too.

[MKR&*42]

There isn't any particular pilot hotel, Paul said it depends on the market of the time! I didn't know they were bigger... surely there's more players on .com than .es (considering there's like 100x the number of people in UK, USA, AUS and SG.... than spain?)

He's not lied at all. He's been quite forthcoming that he doesn't know exactly when things are going to happen really! He regularly keeps in contact with Habbos on Twitter, which isn't actually part of his job. Could you provide a few examples?

I think many people got fed up of the hotel after the merge and I imagine a large % would have quit xD. Also, bear in mind there are an awful lot of Spanish speakers (about 500 million) and Portugese speakers (252 million), I don't know why .com doesn't have user levels like that - the only explanation I can find is that people left because of the merge and because of dreadful moderation/customer support.

There is no specific pilot hotel yes, but it tends to be .fi that gets every update first now lol. The homepage and bots are the only exceptions I can think of this year.

[xxMATTGxx]

I thought the pilot hotel was now .com, someone posted it here about it I think it was xxMATTGxx;. Why would you want to test out something completely new one a hotel so big, thats why they put it with a smaller one.

No hotel is classed as a "pilot hotel" seems like they have changed their minds again.

[e5]

Going by Pauls latest tweet/blog entry, we won't be seeing the chat back for a while yet as they are piloting it in spain and brazil on tuesday, hate waiting!

[lawrawrrr]

Wont bother giving you proof, i know what hes done, and others do too.

He got angry and posted a few tweets. Everyone makes a few heated, angry mistakes. At least he's not completely shut Habbo or resigned and left the company to crumble, I think that's quite admirable.


I think many people got fed up of the hotel after the merge and I imagine a large % would have quit xD. Also, bear in mind there are an awful lot of Spanish speakers (about 500 million) and Portugese speakers (252 million), I don't know why .com doesn't have user levels like that - the only explanation I can find is that people left because of the merge and because of dreadful moderation/customer support.

There is no specific pilot hotel yes, but it tends to be .fi that gets every update first now lol. The homepage and bots are the only exceptions I can think of this year.

The merge thing doesn't have a lot to do with anything, people leave, come back, and more importantly, new members join on every hotel. There's more english speakers than spanish speakers in the world!

.com hotel - AUS, CA, JP, RO, MY, NZ, PH, RU, SG, US, UK & IE, IN, PO
.es/br hotels - BR, CL, CO, PE, AR, EC, MX, PT, ES, BO, PAN, PAR

the .com has more hotels merged/linking to it - and much bigger countries as that. I'm trying to find a list of how many members but can't see one anywhere!!

[MKR&*42]

He got angry and posted a few tweets. Everyone makes a few heated, angry mistakes. At least he's not completely shut Habbo or resigned and left the company to crumble, I think that's quite admirable.



The merge thing doesn't have a lot to do with anything, people leave, come back, and more importantly, new members join on every hotel. There's more english speakers than spanish speakers in the world!

.com hotel - AUS, CA, JP, RO, MY, NZ, PH, RU, SG, US, UK & IE, IN, PO
.es/br hotels - BR, CL, CO, PE, AR, EC, MX, PT, ES, BO, PAN, PAR

the .com has more hotels merged/linking to it - and much bigger countries as that. I'm trying to find a list of how many members but can't see one anywhere!!

They don't list individual members for each countries :P They only do global totals lol. I guess Habbo is just more popular in Spanish/Portugese countries? There's no specific 1 reason why xD.

[lawrawrrr]

They don't list individual members for each countries :P They only do global totals lol. I guess Habbo is just more popular in Spanish/Portugese countries? There's no specific 1 reason why xD.

If they don't know numbers how do you know the hotel is bigger..?

[MKR&*42]

If they don't know numbers how do you know the hotel is bigger..?

It's not hard to tell by the user count. When it's not on mute the .es gets about 20,000 and it doesn't alter that much over the course of the day, it maybe goes down to 10,000 minimum but usually peaks slightly above 20,000. Portugese isn't much different, I'm sure .pt peaks at just over 20,000 as well.

Habbotimes had a graph which displayed how many users were online each hotel throughout the course of the day. I think I maybe say the .com hotel beat .es at 1 point in the day (1 hour) and then .es continued to stay above .com levels. I don't think .com has ever beaten the .pt minimum.

They removed the graph during the update though.

[xxMATTGxx]

It's not hard to tell by the user count. When it's not on mute the .es gets about 20,000 and it doesn't alter that much over the course of the day, it maybe goes down to 10,000 minimum but usually peaks slightly above 20,000. Portugese isn't much different, I'm sure .pt peaks at just over 20,000 as well.

Habbotimes had a graph which displayed how many users were online each hotel throughout the course of the day. I think I maybe say the .com hotel beat .es at 1 point in the day (1 hour) and then .es continued to stay above .com levels. I don't think .com has ever beaten the .pt minimum.

They removed the graph during the update though.

Just looked in my history to get the page for you: http://www.habbotimes.net/lexikon/1141.

This is the current one on their site (changes each day):

http://www.habbotimes.net/site/scripts/onlinestatistik/cache/HABBOTIMES_NET_HOTELSTAT-2012-06-22.png

[MKR&*42]

Just looked in my history to get the page for you: http://www.habbotimes.net/lexikon/1141.

This is the current one on their site (changes each day):

http://www.habbotimes.net/site/scripts/onlinestatistik/cache/HABBOTIMES_NET_HOTELSTAT-2012-06-22.png

Thanks Matt ^_^. I was a few thousand off on .es, but it's not hard to see it always bypasses .com. Didn't know .br reaches 25,000 at one point xD.

[DPS]

Ah well ill just wait for the elder scrolls mmo next year and probs wont be back on Habbo :)

[Mathew]

I didn't even realise Habbo still had so many sites. They're clearly a huge company, so why is their customer support such an absolute shambles? I'm always emailing people with questions or issues: why does Habbo fail to provide the same level of personal support? Morons.

[PiippBB]

I didn't even realise Habbo still had so many sites. They're clearly a huge company, so why is their customer support such an absolute shambles? I'm always emailing people with questions or issues: why does Habbo fail to provide the same level of personal support? Morons.

Don't be surprised; it seems the larger a company grows the worse their customer service and support becomes. EA is a fantastic example, they're just awful.

[Mathew]

Don't be surprised; it seems the larger a company grows the worse their customer service and support becomes. EA is a fantastic example, they're just awful.
The irony is that Paul came from Disney, and we've found Disney have some of the best customer service in the world. What's he playing at? :P

[PiippBB]

The irony is that Paul came from Disney, and we've found Disney have some of the best customer service in the world. What's he playing at? :P

To be fair he's only the CEO and thus won't really have much to do with customer service. It's more his job to keep the investors happy (though he's fluffed that one up) and sign off new things; basically to keep an eye on the higher tiered staff to make sure they are doing their jobs properly. I don't think Habbo have ever had exceptional customer service to be honest though, I remember as far back as 2004 complaining about them myself, lol.

[Shockwave.2CC]

I'm not sure if this is posted on the forum yet so here it is

http://blog.habbo.com/2012/06/21/mute-update-from-paul/

Sorry if it has been already posted on the forum

Thread merged by Chris (Forum Moderator): From "Habbo News & Rumours", as all discussion on the mute is here!

[LiquidLuck.]

It has been posted somewhere already, yeah.

[Pigperson]

Interesting, I do understand why they are taking there time but saying a big unmute is coming on the 18th without doing so is annoying.

Will

[Mathew]

Just watched the debate thing and it wasn't actually too bad. I expected it to be pretty cringy but they managed to get some pretty level-headed people by the looks of things.

Oh, and Jon Snow is working those green socks once again...

http://i.imgur.com/6PUGz.jpg

[Shockwave.2CC]

Just watched the debate thing and it wasn't actually too bad. I expected it to be pretty cringy but they managed to get some pretty level-headed people by the looks of things.

Oh, and Jon Snow is working those green socks once again...

http://i.imgur.com/6PUGz.jpg

Woo theres Amber (Deapmeaning) with the hat on. She my friend irl :). Plus OLowe07 (guy sitting next to Amber) needed a slap

[Mathew]

are u bffl irl with her? or just say like hi? or or what? the Omar guy tbh I thought he was a bit odd when he posted on hxf but he said a couple of good points in the debate. it's a much wider issue in terms of how society as a whole is becoming more accepting of sex and associated points; he acknowledged that first and foremost which I think was a good, important move.

[Shockwave.2CC]

are u bffl irl with her? or just say like hi? or or what? the Omar guy tbh I thought he was a bit odd when he posted on hxf but he said a couple of good points in the debate. it's a much wider issue in terms of how society as a whole is becoming more accepting of sex and associated points; he acknowledged that first and foremost which I think was a good, important move.

She's my friend as in friend friend, meaning a friend that I would go and hang out with, which I already have :), she's not my gf as she is a lesbian, but she is one of my close friends. From what I heard Omar was like agreeing with channel 4 and no one else, he didn't really seem to me that he wanted habbo back to its talking ways

[MKR&*42]

Just watched the debate thing and it wasn't actually too bad. I expected it to be pretty cringy but they managed to get some pretty level-headed people by the looks of things.

Oh, and Jon Snow is working those green socks once again...

http://i.imgur.com/6PUGz.jpg

Someone has a leg fetish :lll.

[Mathew]

Someone has a leg fetish :lll.

No LMAO... the socks are just so funny! :P

[MKR&*42]

No LMAO... the socks are just so funny! :P

;ll Should I dedicate an article to his coloured socks as well lmao?

srs, the things you notice ;l

[Mathew]

;ll Should I dedicate an article to his coloured socks as well lmao?

srs, the things you notice ;l

surprised you haven't already, you little addict you!! ;)

[MKR&*42]

surprised you haven't already, you little addict you!! ;)

You kept telling me to do all these news articles at like 1am!!!! :@ LMAO.

[Zak]

I'd love to do a group photo of all Habbo's *active* users... or even all *active* members on this forum in a big room :P