Post WWE News/Rumours/Results here.

[newWORLDorder]

You dont need to be bulked up to be an enjoyable World Champ. Flair, Punk :)


His mic skills are not rock worthy, but better than they used to be.

Foley left as 1. The most common complaint - The road, he would rather stay close to the fairground (if you read his books you will know he is a huge fairground ride fan).
2. He did not like vince shouting down his ear in the commontators job. Shame, he was good.

[Wayne]

Lol, yeah I like R-Truth and the title would look cool on him. :P I don't think Santino will beat Honky Tonk Man's record of the IC title reign.

Edit: Stupid Vince.

[newWORLDorder]

He will get to the last week and lose the title.

Truth deserves US. His name sucks though, he suits Ron Killings, K-Kwik or R-Truth sound like american shops. (K-Mart, 7-11 lol)

[Misawa]

Jeff wouldn't change is physique. What you see is what you get; he isn't built like a muscleman.

Vince shouts at everyone from the Gorilla position. I think Mick should have expected that when he took the role.

[Excellent2]

It would be interesting to see jeff hold the title for a month and see what he's like, I really hope vince allows him to beat HHH this sunday :D I think that russian dude will interfere and jeff will take the win.

[Captain]

K-Kwik reminds me of the Kwik-e-mart from the Simpsons :(

I hope people come to realise that R-Truth is naff. With his little dancing gimmick he won't make it far into the WWE. I hate him.


HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE


Santino Marella for Prime Minister pls.

[Wayne]

Lol, you mean Vladimir Kozlov. ;) He's a powerful guy but I don't like him.

[newWORLDorder]

He does not need to. People like him for his style of wrestling, he cannot change the way he looks or he will be doing Brock Lensar-esque style flips.

K-Kwik has already made it. He is nearly 40. In his prime, been NWA Champion, Won the IC title in WWF (I think, cant remember). He does not need to prove himself any more.

[Captain]

My P.E teacher is a Vladamir Koslov look-a-like. Im actually pretty certain he is my P.E teacher.

[Excellent2]

R-Truth 40?!

[Wayne]

40 years old?

[newWORLDorder]

Nope.. where did I get 40 from... I know he is older than most think though.

[Wayne]

He does look quite old though.

[Misawa]

He is indeed almost 40.

[Excellent2]

Wow I thought he was about 23..

[You]

what is the point in r-turth, his gimmick is so annoying :l.

[newWORLDorder]

36 according to gerweck (May of miscounted, tired!).

But surely someone else agrees that he looks younger than his age.

Another thing that shows that we are growing up.. The Hardys, Jericho and Big Show are now considered WWE veterens... I keep thinking that they are all dead young, which they kinda are. But i guess its just signs of growing up fast and not knowing it...


..you whipper-snappers with your nintendoo sixtyfours and your pacman videogames. [BASEketball quote]

[Wayne]

Wow I thought he was about 23..

If he was about 23, back in WWF 2001 he would've been like, 16. xD The Hardyz, Big Show & Jericho have been in WWF since late 90s though, around 1998-1999 area.

[newWORLDorder]

Yeah, thats what I mean, and they are veterans. Think about it. How many Attitude Era wrestlers are sitll there now...


I mean attitude era as the childhood era for most of us, like, 1990-2000. Hardyz, Jericho, Bigshow. No more Rock, Austin, original DX.

HHH has been veteran since he married Steph/gave Vince mouthloves.

[Excellent2]

I think because of Matt and Jeff's radical gimmick going solo for both of them was a bad move. The hardy's where recognized for their tag team abilities. I still see them as kids though haha.

[Wayne]

Yeah. Don't forget Undertaker and Kane too. They're veterans now since they were kind of at the height of their careers during our childhoods.

[Misawa]

Yeah, definitely don't listen to the media about "pro wrestlers die young", especially in the WWE. A handful of known drug abusers died after their prime. That isn't everyone. The media just likes to be sensationalistic and careless. If the lifespan of a wrestler was 18-45, I don't think there would be any wrestling.

I'm not a supporter of the whole "banging in the boss' daughter" idea. He only married Steph a few years ago, and he was on top years and years beforehand. When he was dating Chyna he was on top, and what does that say?

[Excellent2]

Just look at Ric Flair, he must have been 60 odd and he still competed for a number of years.

[Misawa]

Naitch is 59.

[Captain]

Would you believe this man is only 23?

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/Superstars/bio/5588954

Im shocked too :P

[Excellent2]

Would you believe this man is only 23?

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/Superstars/bio/5588954

Im shocked too :P
The hair makes him look older to be frank.

[Wayne]

LOL. Trevor Murdoch is only young too.

[Captain]

I tell you who looks good for his age, Mike Adamle. He's 59 years old :o

[Wayne]

Lol, yeah he is doing quite well for his age. :O

[Misawa]

I didn't know that about Festus. He's supposed to be Lenny out of Of Mice And Men. As for Adamle, yeah, he does look good for his age.

[Excellent2]

The funny thing about Vince is he can't hide his age no more haha!;)

[Misawa]

He can. Just be taking his shirt off. Aha.

[Wayne]

Lol, Jesse is 29. I would've thought Jesse was younger than Festus.

[Excellent2]

He can. Just be taking his shirt off. Aha.The steroids make him look younger then :P

[Captain]

Festus looks about 40 year old lmao. How old is Vince btw?

[Wayne]

Vince is 63.

[Misawa]

63 years-old.

[Captain]

When he dies, who'll become Chairmen of the WWE? Shane?

[Misawa]

It'll be handed to Shane and Steph, but Steph and Triple H will have most of the control as Shane will not has as much involvement.

[Captain]

Personally, they should hand it to me. I'll bring back the attitude era. >:)

[Excellent2]

Personally, they should hand it to me. I'll bring back the attitude era. >:)I don't think they could ever create that again.

[Wayne]

Lol, loads of people want the Attitude era back again, me being one of those people.

[Misawa]

The Attitude Era was an attempt on the WWF's part to capitalise on the success of ECW's hardcore style. There's no reason for them to do it again, and with the WWE's TV shows now rated PG, it won't be happening.

[Wayne]

Yeah, I don't like it how WWE appeals to the younger generation now tbh.

[Captain]

No one likes the new PG rated WWE. EVERYONE WANTS THE ATTITUDE ERA BACK. Attitude Era actually made me look forward to watching wwe :(

[Misawa]

Well, they have to, for business. A huge percentage of its fans are kids.

And WWE has only just been rated PG, and of course all the wild things can happen on PPV.

[Wayne]

Lol, yeah. I do look forward to WWE a bit nowadays, but the WWF era always had shocks and surprises etc.

[Misawa]

That's probably because dirtsheets weren't every other website on the net, so you wouldn't have been spoiled back then. If no one read into it, it would still be unpredictable. The reason why the WWE keeps pulling these swerves lately is because they are trying to defy what the internet wrestling community finds out from the dirtsheet websites.

[Captain]

I don't read spoilers and stuff but I can still pretty much predict what will happen. They need new creative writers. Im certain that most kids who watch WWE would prefer what happened in the attitude era than what happens today.

[Misawa]

Too many gimmick matches, not enough solid wrestling.

[Wayne]

Are you on about gimmicks in attitude era or now?

[Captain]

Most of the audience aren't too bothered about solid wrestling, they watch it for entertainment.

[Misawa]

Gimmick matches, not wrestler gimmicks.

Wrestling is wrestling, wrestling is telling stories in the ring with great psychology, not weapons or cages or dumpsters. In moderation, like the WWE of today, is fine, to cap off feuds, but not all the time - that's garbage wrestling.

[newWORLDorder]

Everyone does not want the attitude era back. I for one do not. It was a phase, people will look back on this era and think it was the best ever. People will look back on the next generation and think it was the best ever. See where im going with this?


I just want a whole WWE revamp. Thats what made 2002 exciting.. this "WWE" made it feel like a whole different company. The WWE's attempt at a rebrand in January failed IMO.

[Captain]

I don't think i'll look back on this era and think it was the best ever. I think it's been terrible.

[Wayne]

I thought the 2003 era was quite good. Evolution, Booker T, RVD, Kevin Nash, Goldberg, Brock Lesnar, The Rock, Shawn Michaels etc. I won't look back on WWE now in a few years and say it was great.

[Misawa]

I don't segment the WWE into eras. I just look at the years it progresses. The only real "eras" you can call would be the Golden Age, and then Attitude.

[newWORLDorder]

Yeah, I think this generation/period or whatever you want to call it needs a big event to class it as an 'era' or whatever.

Edge wants Christians last run to be in WWE... good!

[Wayne]

I think a lot of people say that when Cena was the champion, that was a new era.

[newWORLDorder]

Your joking, right?

[Misawa]

How? He's just another champion. You could say his first victory is what began the reign of John Cena, but by no means is it an era.

[Wayne]

I've seen people referring to it on YouTube as like 'Cena Era' and stuff. It's probably because he never lost the title and that, I dunno.

[Misawa]

Weird. They forget Batista was World Heavyweight Champion then.

[newWORLDorder]

Well im a huge fan of the Santino era :l


Them people who say **** on youtube dont know jack about wrestling and most likely think Batista and Cena are the best things since sliced bread.

[Wayne]

Yeah, whoever is champion at that time they think is a new era.

[newWORLDorder]

Meh. Bring back Bischoff, WWE needs a non-wrestling super-heel. If he was not rimming Hogan right now I am sure he might be back.

[Misawa]

I always liked Bischoff's role in the WWE.

[You]

Meh. Bring back Bischoff, WWE needs a non-wrestling super-heel. If he was not rimming Hogan right now I am sure he might be back.
You know, if you didn't use such pathetic, immature words in your posts, they might actually look half decent...

[Heart Break Kid]

yeah i think bischoff was a great general manager
he was funny aswell which is great
hogan as a GM that would be awesome

[Misawa]

Okay, Felony, scrap what I said. A No Mercy preview will be up in about an hour or so on Gerweck.net

[Excellent2]

I for one want the ECW/WCW invasion to come back again, perhaps an all brand fight like Smackdown vs RAW vs ECW, would keep me watching :) The WWE lacks characters right now, they will never be able to conjure up someone like stone cold ever again. The reason why we enjoyed austin was because we could all relate to him in someway, his attitude as it where was a typical stereotype and was funny :)

[newWORLDorder]

@Marcs post.

Whats up with you? You used to be half decent and whenever you see my posts you seem to criticise. No point man.

Joe [from MSN]

--

[The Undertaker]

Another invasion would be a bit boring imo cause we've seen one before and we know how it will end. They need a complete re-think of the ECW roster though, ECW is all about hardcore wrestling but there is only one original left :rolleyes:

Does anyone know where i can watch No Mercy tomorrow ? I cba to stay up & watch it live.

[Wayne]

Billy try http://galaxiawrestling.blogspot.com/ or www.SAPO.PT

[newWORLDorder]

He said live :P


If your up at the early hours its on.

justin.tv
ustream.net

Some of them may have it.

I would not say an invasion storyline, but a LOT more unexpected events, thats what gets people talking.

[Excellent2]

I want another steve austin :(

[newWORLDorder]

Dont see that happening in our generation tbh.

[Excellent2]

Unless jimmy wang yang can pull himself together ;) haha.

[You]

He said live :P


If your up at the early hours its on.

justin.tv
ustream.net

Some of them may have it.

I would not say an invasion storyline, but a LOT more unexpected events, thats what gets people talking.
he said he cba to stay up and watch it live...

[CJW93]

I have I made a **** desiosn to order this:

World Heavyweight Championship Ladder Match
Chris Jericho (c) vs. Shawn Michaels

WWE Championship Match
Triple H (c) vs. Jeff Hardy

The Undertaker vs. The Big Show

ECW Championship Match
Matt Hardy (c) vs. Mark Henry

Number One Contenders Match
Batista vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield

Women's Championship Match
Beth Phoenix (c) vs. Candice Michelle

Rey Mysterio's Mask On The Line
Rey Mysterio vs. Kane


Yes, Yes I have :(

[newWORLDorder]

Misawa, Good predictions, again.

Heres mine












World Heavyweight Championship Ladder Match
Chris Jericho (c) vs. Shawn Michaels
This match will be an amazing match, with it being very close.. both men fighting on the ladder, until Cade comes out, spoils the match by pulling Michaels down. Helping Jericho retain. The dream ending, however. Cade comes and gets Michaels off the ladder, Michaels is flat out. Ric Flair runs down to the ring, usual pulls jacket off and whatnot, low blows Jericho off the ladder. Flair helps Shawn back up the ladder to get a memorable win!

WWE Championship Match
Triple H (c) vs. Jeff Hardy
Im optimistic with this match, would love to see Hardy get the win, I believe its his time, but knowing WWE he will not get the win. Triple H takes the win and shows great sportsmanship to Hardy after the match, to Pedigree him seconds later, adding a clear Face and Heel line in this fight.

The Undertaker vs. The Big Show
This match will be a very short one, most likely ending with Edge interupting IMO. Edge, Vicky, or Chavo interupting. Infact, I can see Chavo interupting, I dont think WWE will the "Edge is in hell" story so soon and on such a small stage.

ECW Championship Match
Matt Hardy (c) vs. Mark Henry
Wish this was a gimmick match, most likely another forgettable ECW title match. Hardy for the win.

Number One Contenders Match
Batista vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield
Yawn. Dont care who wins. Boobs vs Basketballhead.

Women's Championship Match
Beth Phoenix (c) vs. Candice Michelle
As much as Candice is phit (apart from the lobsided breasts.) I will be using this match to go the toilet and get a drink (Saying that, I wont, as I will either be asleep or watching the match online, so I wont be able to go to the toilet or get a drink!)

Rey Mysterio's Mask On The Line
Rey Mysterio vs. Kane
Yet again. Im optimistic in this match. My take on it is that Mysterio lost his mask in WCW. He was fine without it, obviously there where talks and whatnot. I would like to see Rey lose his mask.. maybe a heel turn! Obviously in reality, Mysterio will pick up a smart win. Close fight, obviously, with one or two great lucha spots. Kane just needs his mask back. Lol.


My predictions are way off but oh well.. as I said in the past, I can dream.

[Misawa]

Thanks!

Not so sure about the Flair thing, but as you say, dreams!

Yeah, everyone go to GERWECK.NET IMMEDIATELY (!) and check out my No Mercy preview.

[newWORLDorder]

Yeah, Flairs far to busy with NWA, but it would be pretty smart and quite unsuspected. Cade will save Jericho from being beat, obviously!


In re: to Misawa above. - http://www.gerweck.net/news/1223241876.shtml
Read it, its worth it. Realistic predictions unlike most sites, cant remember the amount of times I have seen

"i think sid will interupt the main event"

==
Also, I am already missing Y2J. Just thought I should share that!

[Misawa]

PPV over. Was pretty lackluster apart from the last two matches. Jericho lost a tooth!

[Jme]

When are the wwe gonna stop punnishing jeff hardy and just let him hold the wwe championship. It's getting boring now all the times he gets a shot and comes so close for it to be snatched away. I really thought last night would be his time but no. If they're gonna refuse him the win they should make it more realistic than the way it happened HHH should have been out for the count yet he still managed to counter the pin.

[Misawa]

I disagree that they're "punishing" him. I predicted a Triple H victory because of the lack of build and the general focus on him at the moment by the WWE. I wouldn't be surprised to see Hardy to the Royal Rumble in January and go on to win at WrestleMania, which is the without a doubt the best place to win a World Championship.

[Excellent2]

Hmm, kind of predicted results really, they could have shaken things up a tad..

[Scouse]

khali gets interviewed by johnny knoxville and ends up walking out after 5 minutes. i thought it was quite funny myself.

http://www.jackassworld.com/blog/2008/10/03/one-bourbon-one-scotch-and-one-beer-–-the-great-khali/

[Excellent2]

Jesus he's huge :|

[Captain]

Knoxville is brave to mess around with Khali, he's a walking house. :l

I reckon i'd still take him though.

[Misawa]

Head over to GERWECK.NET for my full review of No Mercy. It took like 3 hours to write.

[Jord]

I aint watched WWE In like a year, Might watch again.

[The Undertaker]

Two matches named for Cyber Sunday already.
Jericho vs Batista for the World title - You choose Special Ref: Austin, HBK or Orton

Santino Marella defends the Intercontinental title against a former champion. Choose between Rowdy Roddy Piper, Goldust & The Honky Tonk Man

[Wayne]

Honky Tonk Man VS Santino Marella would be awesome.

[mangle]

Tbh anyone vs him would be.

[newWORLDorder]

Cyber Sunday is not so 'Cyber' this year.

1) Voting is only via cell phone! Cyber Sunday no longer sticks to its name
2) Voting is only via USA only. No more voting for us


[Credit GERWECK.net]

[Misawa]

Voting is pretty much rigged anyway. Honky recently had a finger ripped off and it had to be surgically reattached, and he's feeling complications from the recovery at the moment, so I doubt they could do anything with him, but he would be the clear victor in a poll. I expect Beth Phoenix will help Santino get a dirty victory and then he'll be on the receiving end of a guitar shot.

[You]

Cyber Sunday is not so 'Cyber' this year.

1) Voting is only via cell phone! Cyber Sunday no longer sticks to its name
2) Voting is only via USA only. No more voting for us


[Credit GERWECK.net]
Why does it not stick to it's name... It's on a sunday..

[newWORLDorder]

Well cyber is accociated with PC voting.. cyber is hardly on cell phones.


And with austin being in voting and confirming he is showing up.. well lol

[Misawa]

The whole "Cyber" aspect was for "cyberspace" A.K.A. the internet. Yet this year, you can only vote via a mobile phone at $.99 per selection.

[You]

Is it actually offical that you cannot vote online? Maybe just haven't got round to adding it yet..

[Wayne]

I prefer to vote online. Texts would be a rip off as opposed to internet voting. :(

[Misawa]

They haven't mentioned anything about internet voting, but I would presume they would have opened up WWE.com polls as soon as the mobile numbers were announced, and they didn't, so...

[Wayne]

Yeah. Btw, I thought RAW was quite funny last night, especially with Kiss Cam with the Great Khali and the argument between Cryme Tyme & Miz & Morrison.

[newWORLDorder]

Have not watched Raw in months, might watch it.

[Wayne]

Yeah, go onto sapo.pt.

[newWORLDorder]

Been using that site for AAAGGGESSS when I first posted about Galaxia Blogspot :P

[Wayne]

Lol, cool. :P Why don't you watch RAW anymore?

[newWORLDorder]

WWE is just boring.. the talent on it sucks. When WWE start giving fans what they want, they stop, and be complete muppets (Kane and his mask!)


Anyway.

Cyber Sunday theme tune - Propane Nightmares by Pendulum. Worst. Song. Ever.


Johnny Knoxville has been invited to Raw after an interview segment, can someone link me to this?

[Wayne]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2Baqy0QfV1M

[newWORLDorder]

Watching now, good interview. Hope Johnny shows up next week.

LOL.
I see why they want him now. He just wanted to know about his Tallywhacker LOL!

[Misawa]

So they can make Knoxville take a beating at the hands of Khali, and you can bet he will stiff him like when Umaga took out the the ******* members a while back. He beat the hell out of them and they actually went to hospital.

[newWORLDorder]

Knowing the ******* guys they wanted to be beaten so its all good! :)

[Wayne]

What is the filtered word? :P

[Scouse]

What is the filtered word? :P


jack-ass i think

*******

[Wayne]

Oh right, OK. :P Thanks. xD

[Misawa]

Yeah, for some reason they censor donkeys.

[Excellent2]

Lmao, http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LY4vJ0yWpjQ the video of jack-ass being whipped by Umaga.

[Captain]

Haha that video is a classic

[GoldenMerc]

what ever happned to rikishi?
and whys kurt angle on TNA?

[Wayne]

Kurt left WWE on August 25, 2006, he was granted an early release from his WWE contract due to "personal issues." He joined TNA shortly after. Rikishi left WWE on July 16 2004, following repeated requests from WWE to lose weight. He joined TNA for a brief stint in 2007. However, after a dispute, he left TNA because of money issues.

[Misawa]

Kurt was battling the early signs of an addiction to painkillers, and couldn't keep up with the WWE schedule because of it.

[Wayne]

I've never liked Kurt anyway. Seems way too arrogant for his own good.

[Misawa]

One of the greatest of all time though.

[Wayne]

Yeah, great wrestler but he's arrogant. I thought he won the WWF title pretty early on in his WWF career.

[Excellent2]

What do the painkillers do? I thought it'd be steroids that they take?? Kurt was an amazing wrestler and I do miss him in the WWE.

[Misawa]

What do you mean? Painkillers are what they are - they kill pain - pills.

[Wayne]

Yeah. I think WWE suspend superstars who take these just in case they become addicted on pain killers.

[Excellent2]

And the pain would come from..? Also I know what pain killers do but the pain would be from?

[Wayne]

Wrestling lol. Being slammed on the mat can hurt you know. ;)

[mangle]

And the pain would come from..? Also I know what pain killers do but the pain would be from?
Breaking your neck?
Falling awkwadly?
Ladders etc

[Misawa]

Wrestling hurts a hell of a lot - that's why.

[Wayne]

Is Goldust still in TNA?

[Excellent2]

Ahh, just never knew they tried to hide it sorry :P I guess they don't want to be put on the injured list?

[Misawa]

Ahh, just never knew they tried to hide it sorry :P I guess they don't want to be put on the injured list?

Wrestlers always wrestle injured and live in pain. They have to manage it. The more severe injuries that are obvious are the ones that cause wrestlers to miss time in the ring as they physically cannot compete. Promoters don't want wrestlers with slight injuries for them to develop further, and temporarily or permanently lose their talent. Also, wrestlers detest injuries as for some, although not so much today, because they can lose their spot, which is their position on wrestling events.

And no, Black Reign is gone from TNA.

[Wayne]

Oh right, so if he was voted to oppose Santino Marella for the IC title, he'd be allowed to?

[Misawa]

He would indeed. He is not attached legally to any company.

[Wayne]

Hmm. I don't really like Goldust either. I think it's his flamboyant manner and stuff that puts me off him. He's quite a good wrestler though. Well, he was back in the day.

[Scouse]

i want either honky tonk man or goldust to wrestle santino. & stone cold for special guest ref :)

[Wayne]

Yeah I want Honky Tonk Man back for Cyber Sunday.

[mangle]

- WWE intends to have Steve Austin become the special referee of the Chris Jericho vs. Batista match at Cyber Sunday, regardless of the voting.

- The current plan for the PPV is to have fans vote for six matches.

From PWMANIA.com

[Wayne]

I think Austin would win the votes anyway.

[GoldenMerc]

What so they released Kurt Angle thats mad 'you suck' was amazing !
What about Austin and Brock Lesnars now in the UFC ring how ODD!

[Misawa]

Austin can't physically compete anymore due to his neck, hasn't been able to for a few years now. He will be at Cyber Sunday later this month as a guest referee.

And yes, Lesnar went down the boring, I mean MMA road, where he was slaughtered in his first fight, but was dominant in his second. His next is against Randy Couture at UFC 91.

[Excellent2]

Austin will always be a ref at Cybersunday I think, he was a ref last year too :P

[Misawa]

For Christ's sake. I Sky+'ed 2 hours of Ring Of Honor and just sat down to watch it, but instead it's 2 hours of God damn infomercials.

[Wayne]

Lol, watch it online? :)

[Excellent2]

Just found out CMPunk, AJstyles, Samoa Joe are all from ROH. CMPunk has come a bloody long way haha. Also saw Matt Hardy had a stint there!

[Misawa]

Well, they've all been there, they didn't start their careers there. Styles for one was in WCW. Matt Hardy wrestled a couple of matches on the independent circuit when he was released in 2005.

[newWORLDorder]

If I remember rightly, Matt Sydal/Evan Bourne is from the Indies isnt he? I cant remember as I have not sat down to watch them in a few years.

I presume you Sky+'ed Fight! network? Yeah, that place stinks. Its always chavvy british MMA, Old homo-erotic UK wrestling or the odd few minutes of classic ROH.

[Misawa]

Yeah, The Fight Network. I never watch it - I miss TWC.

[Captain]

Quote from Kelly Kellys blog:

"hey everyone! i know its been a while but i wanted to check in now that i am able to get on and post..im sorry that i dont post more but i just dont get on as much as i want to but i do read all the messages so i thank you soo much...all of you...ok so anyways here is the answer to the question people have been asking me..i finally have a chance to set the record straight...im not posing for playboy..nothing against playboy at all but i dont know who is posing for playboy but it wont be me. i just want to concentrate on wrestling right now.

thank you all for your support..it means soo much to me and keep the messages coming. xoxo kelly kelly"

I think, i might just cry myself to sleep tonight.

[Juch]

dolph ziggler has been suspended for 30 days.


already?!

[Excellent2]

Steroids I bet lol.

[Blinger1]

Shouldn't most people be suspended then?

[The Undertaker]

Has Ziggler even had a match yet ? lol

Big Show has a title shot against Triple H tonight. Undertaker will probly get involved & try get revenge on him.

[Excellent2]

Nah a lot of them aren't on steroids no more because it's quite noticeable if they are.

Yep, triple h will retain obviously :P

[Scouse]

Has Ziggler even had a match yet ? lol

Big Show has a title shot against Triple H tonight. Undertaker will probly get involved & try get revenge on him.


hes had some dark matches.

think hes an idiot tbh, wwe giving him a chance and he goes and takes drugs. not like he needs steriods either.

[Blinger1]

Nah a lot of them aren't on steroids no more because it's quite noticeable if they are.

Yep, triple h will retain obviously :P
Maybe they go on just at the start to get bigger muscles and then they workout normally.?

[newWORLDorder]

Cba going back some pages, who are you discussing on Roids?

edit. Aha, Nick Nemeth, gutted for him.

[Blinger1]

Cba going back some pages, who are you discussing on Roids?

edit. Aha, Nick Nemeth, gutted for him.
I was talking about wrestlers in general... They were talking about dolph ziggler

[newWORLDorder]

Aha.


Well I just watched smackdown, this R-Truth and Funaki segment had be laughing.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aDxugxzVqU0

[Excellent2]

Lmao! Why the hell is funaki still there?

Also I'm sick and tired of WWE making Jeff Hardy licking H's a**

[Captain]

I actually hated Dolph Siggler even though he pretty much did nothing. Since he screwed up his chance without even having a televised match, WWE should get rid of him. For my sake anyway.

[newWORLDorder]

Excell, chill, its only a story.


Dolph Ziggler sounds like an STD.

[Excellent2]

Dolph Ziggler's character was an annoyance anyway lol.

Fel, it's annoying because jeff can't talk.

[Captain]

Dolph Ziggler sounds like an STD.

"Oh hey guys, I think I caught a Dolph Siggler from that girl last night :("

Dolph Siggler - always use protection.

[newWORLDorder]

I think with some training, he could be excellent on the mic. He has overcome more personal daemons than HHH, and has worked harder than HHH imo.

[Misawa]

Well, if any of you have seen the film Boogie Nights, the alias of the main character is Dirk Diggler, so it looks to me like that's where they got Ziggler's name from.

If a wrestler use steroids the Wellness Policy tests catches them.

[newWORLDorder]

Im 95% sure though, there are a few who slip the net though...

[Misawa]

As in turning a blind eye, or passing the tests?

[newWORLDorder]

You know, "the testers" might "forget to read" some superstars tests...


Turning a blind eye yes! lol

[Captain]

*cough* batista.

I just found out Dolph Ziggler was a former wrestler from Spirit Squad :o

[Misawa]

I don't think so, I mean Orton's been suspended twice, Booker T was suspended, Edge was suspended, Jeff Hardy's been suspended twice. That's four of their biggest stars there, and I feel as if it is all very legitimate.

As for Batista, he was a bodybuilder pre-wrestling. There are bigger guys in the world than Batista, it's not like his physique is impossible to both obtain and maintain, especially when a huge percentage of a WWE wrestler's life is eat, wrestle, gym.

Ziggler could have done anything prohibited, from narcotics, pills, steroids.

[newWORLDorder]

Hm. But dont you get the feeling sometimes that some main superstars miss it...


...what I personally want to say is that Vince must have some favorite superstars who are 'known to have skip the Wellness testing'. That makes me sound VERY bitter and knowing my luck I am wrong.. but Vince looked un-natural for his age, HHH went suddenly HUGE from his old look, Batista looks like if you prodded him he would pop.. but yeah, they probs just spend a lot of time working out (no ****).. but yeah.

[Excellent2]

No felony, the WWE has a wellness policy because of what happened to Benoit I do believe. Batista is big because he was a body builder before, yes, he took steroids but if you look at him when he came to the WWE and last monday he's got a lot smaller because he's off them. Triple H used to be on steroids which was clear, now he isn't.

[newWORLDorder]

Incorrect, the Wellness Policy has been around since before Benoit. (Pretty sure). I did sound pretty bitter, but im sure there are a few that do get around it somehow...


on that note, do TNA have a wellness policy?

[Excellent2]

Yeah I agree some do look huge such as John Cena, he is just massive but I don't think they let anything slip to be honest.

I'm not sure about TNA because D-Von Dudley has been training for Mr.Olympia which every bodybuilding fan knows is the yearly event for body building. He's bulked up so much in just 1 year, it must be steroids. I'm glad that angle has come off them because he had big problems when he was on them.

[Misawa]

I agree with you if you're talking about years ago such as when Hunter Hurst Helmsley became Triple H, but that was pre-Wellness Policy. I am sure H was assisted in his transformation by steroids. Vince probably dabbled in them too, and he used to also use cocaine, but so did many of the WWE roster, like HBK, X-Pac, a good number of them, but they had no policy to stop them, only drugs tests that were extremely spaced out, with no set list of implications. As society's changed, thee WWE's roster has a different attitude towards the party lifestyle by choice over rules, for the most part.

With John Cena, he has a good physique, but he isn't some "monster of muscle". He was a professional bodybuilder prior to WWE and you can probably do a Google search or something to see pictures of him 3x the size then as he is now, and clean.

TNA has implented a Wellness Policy now, as recent as a couple of weeks ago. They had a round of drugs test a few months ago and those who failed were simply told to get off whatever they are doing, otherwise they will be punished next time.

The WWE's Wellness Policy was established a little after Eddie Guerrero's death.

[newWORLDorder]

Angle looks very 'scrawny' lately...

And yeah, I think steorids is a silly idea and wrestlers like Bourne and Hardy prove you dont need them, saying that they are cruiserweights.

[Excellent2]

Yeah Misawa, back in the WWF days. All HHH had to do was move his arm and his t-shirt looked like it was going to rip. Vince has taken steroids and yeah I'm sure he helped HHH to seeing as he's family. I like the way they have this wellness policy in place though, it's very assuring for the fans that the superstars aren't cheating their way or harming themselves because of us.

You can really tell who used to be on steroids and who didn't, I'll name some off the top of my head.

Chris Jericho
Eddie Guerrero
John Cena
Batista
HHH
SCSA (austin)
The rock
Kane
Kurt angle
HBK
Benoit

Thats all I can think of because I'm tired tonight haha. If you look at most of them now you will see a big size decrease, thats not because they decided to get smaller, it's because the wellness policy has been enforced and they don't want to be suspended.

[Misawa]

Well yeah, I mean the natural makeup of your body proves how big you can get for the most part. It's not possible for many to get beyond a certain size as their bodies just cannot do it, but the real heavyweights are the ones who are naturally big, and work off that for their physiques.

[Captain]

LOL at Khali kissing the ogre. Im beginning to like Khali a bit more, hes a brave man.

[Misawa]

Jericho has admitted to doing steroids early on in his career.

I believe John Cena to always have been clean.

With Kane, I can't see how he'd need steroids. He's not build to be a muscular man, he just has natural size and strength, and as he's got older, his body has changed form. Look at Triple H, he's getting on now, his muscle is becoming bloated through age.

[Excellent2]

Hmm I agree with you about Kane a tad, he used to be huge as in muscle capacity, now most of his build is flab (what happens when you come off the steroids) thats why I think he was on them, same as triple h, jericho and the others I mentioned.

Some of them are naturally big like that new russian, he's not on steroids and it's pretty obvious but he's a huge heavyweight. I loved claims that Khali was on steroids though.. yeah.. a 7"3 400 pounder with hands the size of an american football on steroids.

[Blinger1]

Scott Steiner was defiantly on steroids!!

[newWORLDorder]

Cena is not on steroids... simple.

[Excellent2]

Oh yes, that was quite obvious haha. I think thats why WWE released him, or he just left?

[Misawa]

It makes me laugh how different the character of Kane is to Glenn in real life. He's a former teacher, and incredibly polite and well-spoken.

Steiner was actually released when he had an injury and creative had nothing more for him. He went from feuding with Triple H to Test, heh. But yes, if there is anyone in the industry I would point the finger at with no hesitation, it would be Steiner.

EARLY '90s

http://www.hoffco-inc.com/wwe/thist/wwe/tt-steinerbros0-3.jpg



LATE 90s

http://img.search.com/thumb/3/3f/Scott_Steiner.jpg/180px-Scott_Steiner.jpg

[Excellent2]

Double post - sorry.

The people who say john wasn't on steroids I beg to differ. He has decreased in size since the wellness policy has come into play. He's basically hinted he's taken them on a news interview, I quote:

"I can't tell you I haven't taken steroids but you will never be able to prove that I have"

Thats a basic yes in my opinion, or you're just narrow minded and a big cena fan :P

Every muscle fanboy knows that bodybuilders take steroids, he used to be a bodybuilder, I've seen pictures of him and he looks the same size as he was a while back (years, in the wwe)

http://i37.tinypic.com/16s8ly.jpg
A few years ago, I'm sorry but just no..

[Misawa]

That interview was sickeningly edited by CNN, and they refused to apologise when Cena demanded.

What's wrong with those arms? This is Cena pre-WWE, and they constant drugs tests in the world of competetive bodybuilding. He dropped size just so he could fit into the WWE. From the left, to the two right pictures, which are of Cena in UPW as The Prototype character. He lowered his size and he was clean.

And no, I'm not a Cena fan, but nor do I dislike him - the hate he's been receiving has not been deserved in my eyes, and instead just flocking of sheep.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d93/adhesion/CneaSteroids.jpg

[Excellent2]

I am not doubting his in-ring ability or his general charisma/personality. John Cena is one of my favorite wrestlers on the current roster but before the wellness policy I'm sorry to say he must have been on steroids. The veins were popping out of his arm (what happens when you take steroids) and he had a bloated stomach which is another sign. Since the wellness policy he's definitely came off them. He's decreased in size, not much but enough to show he's had some rapid changes. He's not veiny no more like he used to be and his stomach has certainly toned right up.

It's just the same as Batista.

[Misawa]

Protruding veins are actually a sign of muscle rather than steroids. They're known as "peaks", and are onsidered medals in some respect of a the strength of a physique.

[Blinger1]

Quick question, off the topic:

Who did a bulldog into a tray off dog crap?

Was it the british bulldog or what ever? I want to see that video again!!

[Captain]

Bodybuilding looks sick :x

[Misawa]

Quick question, off the topic:

Who did a bulldog into a tray off dog crap?

Was it the british bulldog or what ever? I want to see that video again!!

I think you mean when The Rock gave The British Bulldog the Rock Bottom into the tray.

[Blinger1]

I think you mean when The Rock gave The British Bulldog the Rock Bottom into the tray.
Yep, probably.

Link :)?

[Misawa]

No idea, I can just remember it from about 10 years ago.

[Excellent2]

and they constant drugs tests in the world of competetive bodybuilding.
http://i35.tinypic.com/14vnw2f.jpg
Ronnie coleman, ex-pro bodybuilder. Drug tests ftw :P

[CJW93]

Is the guy on the right the body builder? (:

[majesticdragon]

Is the guy on the right the body builder? (:


I lol'd
I'm glad Umaga's coming back
I don't understand the kozlov push tbh he's rubbish.
x

[Misawa]

Well, he hasn't had the chance to show what he can do in the ring as of yet, but I love his character. His facial expressions and his callous glare are awesome.

[newWORLDorder]

Kozlov, is the first wrestler since MVP I have seen, who instantly strikes you with his character and sheer athleticism. MVP was a very talented wrestler when he debuted, still one of my favorites today. Kozlov IS a big man. He does not need to be put over as a big man like Big Show, Kane.. when you watch him wrestling.. I dont know about you, but I imagine if you were near him, you would be intimidated. The way he handles himself and his opponent in the ring... or he is just a terrible stiff worker, but I doubt that.


Sorry about the rant haha^

Smackdown is out a month today I think, or 29 days or something.

Anyone see that Iron Sheik Ring Roast thing? Scott Hall went off on a tangent about a joke some wise-ass comedian made towards some guy, the joke featured a harsh comment about Owen Hart.

I am sorry if I has mis-understood this, but Scott Hall was a bit tipsy, heard the joke and then punched the "comedian" and then ripped him infront of everyone...


also, are Sheik and Hall on good terms, I have no reason to see why they are not. Ivan Koloff (I think) got up after Hall was dismissed and made point that the joke was unfair and not at all nice, but they should move on from the scene that just occurred and enjoy the evening.

[Misawa]

I saw the video of the comedy roast and they shook hands.

I agree about Kozlov, Felony. His expressions put his demeanor over a helluva lot.

[newWORLDorder]

Who did, Hall and Sheik or Hall and the comedian? I think I remember seeing Hall and Sheik shaking hands..


I think people are too harsh with Hall. People always rip him for being a bit of an alcoholic, he has his problems. People are always sympathetic for Jeff Hardy, he has had problems. Oh well! :P

[Misawa]

Sheik and Hall. The guy deserved the brunt of Scott Hall's drunken temper for the joke he made.

[newWORLDorder]

I would of loved for Bret to be there, as much as I sadly think he is a bit of a bitter old man, it would of been great to see this comedian get choked out.

[Misawa]

He is a bitter old man. And not the innocent one most think him out to be when they bring up the screwjob.

I'd rather have seen Hall Razor's Edge the comedian through the lectern.

[newWORLDorder]

That would be wicked.


I hate the way people are still bitter about the MSJ. It was over ten years ago, get on with it?

I have not bothered to spend enough time reading up, but from what I understand, Bret was champ, he was leaving for WCW, Vince knew this and Bret was not willing to drop the title? It was mainly a business decision.. I presume I have got the story wrong and there was more of an ulterior motive for it.. but all I know is, Bret is Bitter.

[Misawa]

Bret was World Champion and sold out to WCW - they offered him more money than Vince was prepared to. He didn't want to drop the belt in Canada, but Vince wanted him to lose it at the Survivor Series event and agreed with Bret not to. People jump the gun and think that Vince is some evil guy for screwing him legitimately, but Bret figuratively (and literally) spat in the face of Vince, and the fans who had supported him throughout his WWF career. He was the top dog in the WWF at the time, was being paid a lot. He disgraced the WWF by selling out, and he deserved all he got. As Vince said at the press conference, Bret screwed Bret.

[newWORLDorder]

Exactly. Do you think Owen would of eventually jumped ship?

[newWORLDorder]

Excuse the double post, my edit will not save.

To add to my previous post, if the MSJ did not happen, do you think Bret would still be with WWE, and would Owen?

I have really amature views, so mine would be Bret would be in a early-08 Flair position of getting ready to bow down.. early maybe? And maybe owen in TNA in an Fully Metal Mayhem Steel Chair-on-a-electric-rope-on-a-pole Steel Asylum on the Mountain Ladder match!

I dont know.. Its just an unfair tragedy which changed wrestling... and some fat-ass comedian thinks he has the right to laugh at it..

[Misawa]

I think Owen would have jumped ship because he just wanted enough money so that he could retire early and be with his family. As for Bret, I don't know how long he'd have gone if he didn't jump to WCW. I mean, Goldberg ended Bret's career... whose to say he wouldn't have given him a savat kick in 2003 WWE? Haha.

[newWORLDorder]

Lol!

I was thinking earlier, where would all these dead wrestlers be.. would Eddie be in TNA with Hector, or over in mexico? Guess we will never know.

[Misawa]

Eddie would've been in the main event picture in the WWE, I'd say. It's such a shame his past haunted him in the prime of his career.

[CJW93]

He was in the main event

[Excellent2]

Yeah, eddie would have held many many word titles upto now if he didn't pass away.

[Freeza101]

Dam missed it this morning at 11.

Shawn against Chris Jericho :D

[Misawa]

He was in the main event

Yeah, and he would've continued that way.

[Misawa]

For their WrestleMania, TNA's Bound For Glory really is sucking.

[newWORLDorder]

TNA really does confuse me, and its not like im thick, I like to think of myself as a smart wrestling fan (i lold). But c'mon.. a bimbo match?

I imagine Jarrett's match was quite emotional?


WWE news.. Knoxville "has issued a challenge" to Khali for Raw.. "sky+ raw!"

[Misawa]

Couldn't care less about Jarrett's return to be honest, and it didn't seem all that big of a deal on the show.

And yeah, way to degrade their women by calling them bimboes.

[Excellent2]

TNA is really going downhill lol. They're just grabbing the WWE's offcasts :S

[Misawa]

That's what they've done since '02.

[Excellent2]

If I'm right they currently have:

dudleys, rhyno, christian, booker T, that arab (not sure of his name) kurt angle, foley.

[Misawa]

On their CURRENT roster, they have:

Sheik Abdul Bashir A.K.A. Daivari
BG James A.K.A. Road Dogg
Booker T
Christian Cage A.K.A. Christian
Christy Hemme
Earl Hebner
Jacqueline
Jeff Jarrett
Jim Cornette
Kip James A.K.A. Billy Gunn
Matt Morgan
Mick Foley
Rhino
Scott Steiner
Sharmell
Team 3D

All former employees of WWE. And that's not counting the various talent on their roster who have had developmental deals in the past with WWe. It's also not counting WWE stars who went to TNA but are no longer there, such as Ron Killings (who originated in WWE as K-Kwik, returned as R-Truth), Black Reign (Goldust), Jeff Hardy, etc, etc.

[newWORLDorder]

Also, is it fair to say that Dustin Rhodes may be back on his way to the WWE? Im sure he could have another IC Title run?

It just goes to show that all these wrestlers who left WWE for TNA, now want back.. shows the grass is not always greener.

[Misawa]

Rhodes has had so many runs with WWE it's hard to tell. I believe he is signing a Legends contract (it's beyond me why) shortly, and he's probably going to be at Cyber Sunday on-camera in some respect, regardless of the poll.

[The Undertaker]

Big Show vs Taker rematch at Cyber Sunday. Stipulations announced on Smackdown this week. It will most likely be fans choose the match.

The choices would be brilliant if it was like Casket, buried alive etc. Probly end up benefiting the Big show though if Vickie sets the choices though.

[Misawa]

All matches have the poll gimmick attached. The three stipulations will be announced on SmackDown and the voting will begin for that match.

[Captain]

I hope its buried alive match. DO you think they'll need an extra large coffin for big show?

[Excellent2]

Lol the voting is fixed anyway. I can't see the honky tonk man doing lots with that finger of his.

[newWORLDorder]

I wish they would have an inferno match.. but its not PG... but it would fit in with WWE SVR09. lol.

It will be lame stips. Cage. Coffin and MMA are my pics.

[Misawa]

The Steel Cage match is SO overused in the WWE.

[Wayne]

Yeah, I think so too. I prefer HIAC tbh. Just saw Cena on a poster for Survivor Series.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fb/Sur_300x450.jpg.jpg

[newWORLDorder]

The thing is, they used to be GREAT when they had "over the top" finishes, i dont mean crazy finishes (although they can be good), but over the cage finishes made them so more exciting.. going through the door is lame.


Knowing "the general public" *cough, WWE bookers*. It will be MMA to fit in with the storyline.

[Misawa]

Or a boxing match.

[Excellent2]

On the subject of finishers, I hate the way that they can pin someone 1,2,3 with it? Surely being thrown off the top turn buckle would hurt more than a little DDT lmao.

[newWORLDorder]

Sadly, I feel I have to go down this route...


Its scripted. Moves are performed with tricks to make it look like there is more impact.


Sorry :<

[Excellent2]

Yeah I know it's scripted but it's stupid if you ask me lol. The Stone Cold Stunner was a good finisher, that involves taking someones head and ramming it off your shoulder at high impact :P

[newWORLDorder]

Finger poke of doom ftw.

[Excellent2]

Lmao, which one was it who did a "punch to the heart" finisher?

[Captain]

Smackdown was pretty poor last night :(

[The Undertaker]

Undertaker & Big show match will be interesting.
I wanna see an I Quit match, never seen one before :(

[Heart Break Kid]

i saw the one with
Vince V Steph

and the Big Bossman one

ive seen a few others
but there the ones off the top of my head i can remember

[The Undertaker]

I don't know if its been posted but Lance Cade has been released because he had a seizure on a plane & needed emergency medical care :o

[Heart Break Kid]

:o
do you think its got anything to do with HBK's attack (i doubt it tbh)

:O poor him tbh :(

[Captain]

Lance Cade was crap anyway, I can pull better talent out of my ass.

[Misawa]

No, HBK's attack on Cade was a farewell.

[CJW93]

How boring is wwe atm :(

For the first time in a while im not the slightest bit interested in a ppv